[neverdem]

Ultimately, this is another legacy of the useful idiots, regardless of the guilt or innocence of the accused. IIRC, the party line was that the US was in Vietnam just to exploit natural resources, especially oil and natural gas.

[ClearCase_guy]

"There's an expectation that the Hmong-American community ought to be answerable, or ought to be responsible for this one man's action."

Fueled, perhaps, by senseless headline writers? The case could be a single lunatic shooting at a group of hunters -- or it could be a "clash of cultures" in which one culture likes to hunt deer, and the other culture likes to shoot at groups of hunters.

I'm betting on the single lunatic theory, but the newspaper wants me to think that this Hmong was somehow "a representative of his culture", I guess.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Ping for your list.

[irish guard]

OOooooh, this is about cultures colliding!!!

All the while I thought it was about an a$$hole who was hunting on someone else's property and when asked to leave murdered 6 people.....

So its about culture not murder?...whew, was I ever wrong.

[Ladysmith]

Ping.

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[JeeperFreeper]

This article is a classic lesson in why reading the N.Y. Slimes is virtually an act of mental masturbation. One man murders 6 others. The Slimes then publishes an article about the hurt feelings of an ethnic group without one single verifiable insult to the ethnic group and glosses over the murder of 6 people.

[Dr.Syn]

The restrictions in this country have led to conflicts, with some white people complaining that Hmong people ignore or are unable to read fishing limits, clothing rules and permit requirements.

Maybe this should read:

When you are in America, you obey American law...even the yellow people.

[CaptainK]

The Times conveniently leaves out the 2 domestic violence calls that Mrs. Vang placed to 911.
Did she set him off by calling him an ethnic name?

[skip_intro]

In three decades, St. Paul has drawn at least 25,000 Hmong immigrants, transforming it into what they call the Hmong capital of America. Even there, it has not always been an easy fit, with so many Hmong refugees arriving so rapidly, often with no English and little education or urban job skills. The Hmong are from large farming families from Laos, where the Central Intelligence Agency recruited many of them to be part of an anti-Communist secret army during the Vietnam War.

The northernmost edges of Wisconsin, meanwhile, are made up mostly of people of European descent. Many come from Scandinavian, German, Czech and French Canadian backgrounds

Anyone have any doubt about which group the NYTimes thinks shoud be forced to change?

[Ptarmigan]

Chai Vang is a monster plain and simple. He should rot in Hell. I am Asian and I never encounter any real racial tensions in my life. Too many other things to worry about. Heck, I went to one of the frat parties, which was accused of racism at UT-Austin, the gin and rum party. I never encountered any racial problem and I was the only Asian there. It seems like racial problem are in the blue states.

[O.C. - Old Cracker]

[O.C. - Old Cracker]

I'm all for getting this over with and having the world erupt into a giant war to end all wars. Bigger than our own Civil War, WWI and WWII combined. Let's quit pussyfooting around and end it now. There is no way that the West, especially the U.S., can retain its identity as a nation and live at peace with the Muslim world. The followers of Islam have nothing but contempt for us and that will never change until we submit or are dead.

[ozzymandus]

Yeah, two cultures: Law-abiding hunters and a murderer.

[Ghengis]

I've spent a little time with Laotians who were of the mountain people Tony Poe fought along side in the CIA operations during the Vietnam War. They were hard workers and had little difficulty in acclimating to American culture. But they came here, grateful for their American opportunities and were very respectful of the Americans who brought them here.

It seems as though the persons spoken of in these Hmong people have far different expectations.

[Noachian]

This is a New York Times story, and knowing that should be enough to understand the slant the story will take.

[Atomic Comet]

Why is it that in all the articles I have read about this atrocity, I have read about one Hmong or another who was called a name in third grade, but never once were the names of all of the slain mentioned. There were six human beings killed in cold blood, all of whom IIRC were unarmed. Why don't we know their names?!

I think the MSM wants them to disappear and be forgotten. I want to know who they were, and I want the jury to know too, by God!
Them and the executioner.

[mewzilla]

Seems to me it's more about just plain evil. Especially if the alleged perp has done this before.

[missanne]

What I'm curious about is why none of the hunters tried to shoot the murdering SOB......if I were hunting and anyone tried shooting my buddies, he would be a dead man! Sorry, better to be tried by 12 than carried by six!

[lilylangtree]

The truth lies somewhere between the stories from both sides. It was a sad day indeed. Lord, I hope the gun control crazies stay out of the fray.

[spodefly]

The two gatherings, less than 200 miles apart, seemed to be separated by whole worlds.

They should be separated by whole worlds, and if not for liberal experiments in social engineering they would be.

[George W. Bush]

For all their differences, the native Wisconsin residents and the Asian immigrants from St. Paul share a love of hunting.

; )