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Urban Legends and Folklore: IQ and Voter Preference in 2004 Presidential Election
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Posted on 11/27/2004 4:39:49 AM PST by MikefromOhio

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To: Slings and Arrows

Yep. And I live in Tampa- born and raised here. The area to the north of the city, New Port Richey and points north, seem to be a Masshole magnet. Long Island Yankee fans are also in great abundance there.


61 posted on 11/27/2004 11:08:28 AM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
HEY! WHO'S THE FREAKIN' GENIUS, HERE? I know for sure it ain't you! SO SHUT THE HELL UP, YA DUMB BASTID!

brohamie, I'd use your line, word for word, but I'm too dumb to remember it. I did have a pretty good win record for "High Q" though.

62 posted on 11/27/2004 11:32:46 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina
Hmm...

Sounds like a you're a card shark.

Good thing I have my poker face on.

(Strips off "gridiron" face. Puts on "poker" face.)

63 posted on 11/27/2004 12:02:54 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (You are currently reading post #700...under this screen name.)
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To: MikeinIraq; Rain-maker

Don't hang your hat on those stats. The smartest people in those blue states voted for Bush.


64 posted on 11/27/2004 12:05:50 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power)
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To: ovrtaxt
My deepest sympathy. Maybe you can scare them off...

"Hey, I go by the gun shop on my way to protest the abortion clinic! Y'all need anything?"

65 posted on 11/27/2004 12:32:36 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: jenjen3


My husband is a psychiatrist.
His criteria in people has everything to do with
their treatment of other people, especially strangers.
For that reason and others, he chose to retire and live
out his life in the poorest state (Mississippi) which is
also the most charitable giving state in this nation.

Those who have the least, give the most.
I happen to agree with him.

BTW, on this "thang" note that Mississippi is rated # 50.


66 posted on 11/27/2004 3:07:44 PM PST by onyx
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To: MikeinIraq
I refuse to believe that there is a measurable difference in IQ on a state-by-state basis. Any US State has a high enough population to yield a normal distribution of IQ. Anyone who thinks that my state of Connecticut has an average IQ 28 points higher than the average IQ in Mississippi is dragging down the IQ in his state.

Not measurably though.

67 posted on 11/27/2004 3:15:31 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: MikeinIraq
Here is the real IQ list by states and who they voted for

STATE

Avg. IQ

2004

New Hampshire

104

Kerry

Massachusetts

103

Kerry

Oregon

103

Kerry

Wisconsin

103

Kerry

Colorado

102

Bush

Connecticut

102

Kerry

Illinois

102

Kerry

Iowa

102

Bush

Kansas

102

Bush

Minnesota

102

Kerry

Montana

102

Bush

Nebraska

102

Bush

North Dakota

102

Bush

Oklahoma

102

Bush

Vermont

102

Kerry

Washington

102

Kerry

Alaska

101

Bush

Maryland

101

Kerry

Michigan

101

Kerry

Missouri

101

Bush

New York

101

Kerry

Ohio

101

Bush

Utah

101

Bush

Wyoming

101

Bush

Arizona

100

Bush

California

100

Kerry

Idaho

100

Bush

Maine

100

Kerry

Nevada

100

Bush

New Jersey

100

Kerry

Pennsylvania

100

Kerry

Rhode Island

100

Kerry

South Dakota

100

Bush

Virginia

100

Bush

West Virginia

100

Bush

Delaware

99

Kerry

Hawaii

99

Kerry

Indiana

99

Bush

Arkansas

98

Bush

Florida

98

Bush

Alabama

97

Bush

Georgia

97

Bush

Kentucky

97

Bush

Louisiana

97

Bush

North Carolina

97

Bush

Tennessee

97

Bush

Texas

97

Bush

New Mexico

96

Bush

District of Columbia

95

Kerry

Mississippi

94

Bush

South Carolina

94

Bush


68 posted on 11/27/2004 3:30:32 PM PST by MissouriConservative (A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul)
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To: MissouriConservative

Forgot the link....sorry

http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQpolitics.htm


69 posted on 11/27/2004 3:31:29 PM PST by MissouriConservative (A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul)
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To: Slings and Arrows

And as I'm driving by, I'll have Hava Nagila cranked up to "11".

That should surely scare them!

And yes, that's an old Slings and Arrows joke that I still remember.


70 posted on 11/27/2004 7:39:25 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: MikeinIraq
That's not true, but this is:

White Total Fertility Rate Bush % 
USA      1.83 50.9%
Utah      2.45 71.1%
Alaska      2.28 61.8%
Idaho      2.20 68.5%
Kansas      2.06 62.2%
South Dakota      2.02 59.9%
Nebraska      2.02 66.0%
Oklahoma      2.01 65.6%
Wyoming      1.99 69.0%
Indiana      1.94 60.0%
Arkansas      1.94 54.3%
Texas      1.93 61.2%
Arizona      1.92 54.9%
Mississippi      1.92 59.6%
New Mexico      1.90 49.8%
Georgia      1.90 58.1%
Iowa      1.89 50.1%
Missouri      1.89 53.4%
Ohio      1.89 51.0%
Louisiana      1.88 56.7%
Michigan      1.88 47.8%
Montana      1.87 59.1%
Colorado      1.86 52.0%
Nevada      1.85 50.5%
Kentucky      1.85 59.5%
North Carolina      1.84 56.1%
Alabama      1.84 62.5%
Minnesota      1.83 47.6%
New Jersey      1.83 46.4%
Tennessee      1.83 56.8%
Virginia      1.82 54.0%
Maryland      1.81 43.3%
Illinois      1.80 44.6%
South Carolina      1.80 58.0%
Florida      1.78 52.1%
North Dakota      1.78 62.9%
West Virginia      1.78 56.0%
Wisconsin      1.78 49.4%
Oregon      1.76 47.6%
Connecticut      1.75 44.0%
Washington      1.72 45.6%
Pennsylvania      1.72 48.6%
New York      1.72 40.5%
Delaware      1.71 45.8%
New Hampshire      1.69 49.0%
California      1.65 44.5%
Maine      1.65 44.6%
Vermont      1.63 38.9%
Massachusetts      1.60 37.0%
Hawaii      1.59 45.3%
Rhode Island      1.50 38.9%
District of Columbia      1.11 9.3%

Democrats are literally aborting themselves out of existence!

71 posted on 11/27/2004 7:47:22 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Link for the above:

http://www.isteve.com/babygap.htm


72 posted on 11/27/2004 7:48:14 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Lady Jag

its an urban legend

any poll subscribing to say this is the average IQ of whatever state is a hoax or is at the very least suspect


73 posted on 11/27/2004 9:38:35 PM PST by MikefromOhio (42 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: MikeinIraq
A number of agencies and individuals would beg to disagree about IQ estimation being an Urban Legend. Their methodology may be criticized but man efforts are honest.   2004-2005 Smartest State Award
74 posted on 11/28/2004 7:47:42 AM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power)
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To: Slings and Arrows

#1 Ranking is "Smartest"

 

2004-2005 Smartest State Award

ALPHA ORDER

RANK ORDER

RANK

STATE

SMART RATING

2003-2004 RANK

CHANGE

 

RANK

STATE

SMART RATING

2003-2004 RANK

CHANGE

44

Alabama

(11.28)

46

2

 

1

Massachusetts

18.43

1

0

45

Alaska

(12.00)

23

-22

 

2

Connecticut

15.78

3

1

48

Arizona

(17.05)

45

-3

 

3

Vermont

14.77

2

-1

36

Arkansas

(4.12)

38

2

 

4

New Jersey

14.42

5

1

43

California

(7.61)

44

1

 

5

Wisconsin

9.62

8

3

21

Colorado

0.44

35

14

 

6

New York

9.07

10

4

2

Connecticut

15.78

3

1

 

7

Minnesota

7.96

12

5

27

Delaware

(0.72)

19

-8

 

8

Iowa

7.80

8

0

39

Florida

(6.63)

40

1

 

9

Pennsylvania

7.57

7

-2

38

Georgia

(5.78)

36

-2

 

10

Montana

6.97

4

-6

42

Hawaii

(6.93)

43

1

 

11

Maine

6.43

6

-5

29

Idaho

(2.37)

30

1

 

12

Virginia

5.91

17

5

24

Illinois

(0.32)

27

3

 

13

Nebraska

4.94

11

-2

17

Indiana

2.44

13

-4

 

14

New Hampshire

3.72

26

12

8

Iowa

7.80

8

0

 

15

Kansas

3.54

15

0

15

Kansas

3.54

15

0

 

16

Wyoming

3.51

14

-2

37

Kentucky

(5.19)

37

0

 

17

Indiana

2.44

13

-4

46

Louisiana

(12.83)

47

1

 

18

Maryland

2.29

18

0

11

Maine

6.43

6

-5

 

19

North Dakota

1.27

24

5

18

Maryland

2.29

18

0

 

20

Ohio

0.51

22

2

1

Massachusetts

18.43

1

0

 

21

Colorado

0.44

35

14

31

Michigan

(2.68)

20

-11

 

22

South Dakota

0.13

31

9

7

Minnesota

7.96

12

5

 

23

Rhode Island

0.07

16

-7

47

Mississippi

(15.30)

48

1

 

24

Illinois

(0.32)

27

3

26

Missouri

(0.50)

28

2

 

25

North Carolina

(0.40)

21

-4

10

Montana

6.97

4

-6

 

26

Missouri

(0.50)

28

2

13

Nebraska

4.94

11

-2

 

27

Delaware

(0.72)

19

-8

49

Nevada

(17.33)

49

0

 

28

Utah

(0.85)

25

-3

14

New Hampshire

3.72

26

12

 

29

Idaho

(2.37)

30

1

4

New Jersey

14.42

5

1

 

30

Washington

(2.40)

33

3

50

New Mexico

(18.09)

50

0

 

31

Michigan

(2.68)

20

-11

6

New York

9.07

10

4

 

32

South Carolina

(3.27)

41

9

25

North Carolina

(0.40)

21

-4

 

33

Texas

(3.31)

34

1

19

North Dakota

1.27

24

5

 

33

West Virginia

(3.31)

29

-4

20

Ohio

0.51

22

2

 

35

Oregon

(3.38)

32

-3

40

Oklahoma

(6.90)

39

-1

 

36

Arkansas

(4.12)

38

2

35

Oregon

(3.38)

32

-3

 

37

Kentucky

(5.19)

37

0

9

Pennsylvania

7.57

7

-2

 

38

Georgia

(5.78)

36

-2

23

Rhode Island

0.07

16

-7

 

39

Florida

(6.63)

40

1

32

South Carolina

(3.27)

41

9

 

40

Oklahoma

(6.90)

39

-1

22

South Dakota

0.13

31

9

 

41

Tennessee

(6.91)

42

1

41

Tennessee

(6.91)

42

1

 

42

Hawaii

(6.93)

43

1

33

Texas

(3.31)

34

1

 

43

California

(7.61)

44

1

28

Utah

(0.85)

25

-3

 

44

Alabama

(11.28)

46

2

3

Vermont

14.77

2

-1

 

45

Alaska

(12.00)

23

-22

12

Virginia

5.91

17

5

 

46

Louisiana

(12.83)

47

1

30

Washington

(2.40)

33

3

 

47

Mississippi

(15.30)

48

1

33

West Virginia

(3.31)

29

-4

 

48

Arizona

(17.05)

45

-3

5

Wisconsin

9.62

8

3

 

49

Nevada

(17.33)

49

0

16

Wyoming

3.51

14

-2

 

50

New Mexico

(18.09)

50

0

 

METHODOLOGY--This second Smartest State designation is awarded based on 21 factors chosen from Morgan Quitno’s annual reference book, Education State Rankings, 2004-2005To calculate the Smartest State rankings, the 21 factors were divided into two groups: those that are “negative” for which a high ranking would be considered bad for a state, and those that are “positive” for which a high ranking would be considered good. Rates for each of the 21 factors were processed through a formula that measures how a state compares to the national average for a given category. The positive and negative nature of each factor was taken into account as part of the formula. Once these computations were made, the factors then were assigned equal weights. These weighted scores then were added together to determine a state’s final score (“Smart Rating” on the table above.) This way, states are assessed based on how they stack up against the national average. The end result is that the farther below the national average a state’s education ranking is, the lower (and less smart) it ranks. The farther above the national average, the higher (and smarter) a state ranks. This same methodology is used for our annual Healthiest State, Safest and Most Dangerous State and Safest/Dangerous City Awards.

The table above shows how each state scored in Morgan Quitno’s third annual Smartest State Award.

 

 

 

 

 


75 posted on 11/28/2004 7:52:34 AM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power)
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To: Lady Jag
Take a look at the factors used to calculate those scores - they might as well have used "% of popular vote for Kerry" as their metric.
76 posted on 11/28/2004 7:59:00 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: MikeinIraq
Just what does this say about those elitist Blue States that they get whooped by a bunch of ignorant redneck Christians from the Red States?

Oh! They let us win so President Bush and the R'ahs can really screw things up and set up a Hillary run in 2008.

(And they call us ignorant! Geezz!)

77 posted on 11/28/2004 8:03:51 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: MikeinIraq
Hey Mike. You're still in Iraq?

What's the talk on the street about the upcoming elections?

What's up with all this talk about postponing the election over there?

Is that from the people fearful of voting or the different sects postering themselves?

78 posted on 11/28/2004 8:07:53 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Slings and Arrows
You have to look at what weighted the study. But all studies are weighted and open to critisicm. I agree that this one is leftist, but sadly, many are. Nonethless, nearly half the people in Mass. voted Republican and I'm standing by the belief that those were the higher IQ voters.     8º}
79 posted on 11/28/2004 8:45:30 AM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power)
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To: Lady Jag
Nonethless, nearly half the people in Mass. voted Republican and I'm standing by the belief that those were the higher IQ voters. 8º}

I concur.

80 posted on 11/28/2004 9:12:43 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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