Wisconsin Hunter Shooting Threads and Links - Thread One

Various threads and links

[Ladysmith]

** Initial Reports and Updates **

Multiple Shooting in Wisconsin
- - 11/21/2004 6:04:56 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285519/posts

HUNTER GOES BERZERK IN WISCONSIN; AT LEAST FIVE DEAD
- - 11/21/2004 6:15:12 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285531/posts

Five dead, three injured after hunter denied access to tree stand
- - 11/21/2004 8:50:48 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285531/posts?page=200#200

News update: Five dead in Wisconsin after hunting dispute erupts into shooting
- - 11/21/2004 9:17:23 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285531/posts?page=220#220

SIXTH HUNTER DIES FROM SHOOTING INCIDENT
- - 11/22/2004 10:01:26 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286408/posts

Five killed, three wounded in Wisconsin shooting
- - 11/21/2004 10:33:17 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285662/posts

5 killed in shootout among deer hunters
- - 11/22/2004 11:17:09 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285968/posts

Wisconsin Town in Shock Over Shootings
- - 11/22/2004 2:41:19 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286123/posts

5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
- - 11/22/2004 7:31:35 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285788/posts

Names of 5 killed in shooting spree released
- - 11/22/2004 8:36:52 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286348/posts

WI Deadly Hunter Shooting Spree Update
- - 11/22/2004 8:56:07 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286363/posts

Row Ends With Five Deerly Departed [Real and tasteless headline]
- - 11/22/2004 9:14:22 AM - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285868/posts

Deer hunters shot in Wisconsin
- - 11/22/2004 9:20:55 AM CST- -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285876/posts

** Fund Raiser for Victims and Families **

Fund Set Up For WI Hunting Shooting Spree Victims & Families
- - 11/22/2004 9:02:27 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286365/posts

HMONG SET UP RELIEF FUND (For the Shooting Victims and Families)
- - 11/26/2004 5:27:12 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1286365/posts?page=9#9

Jessica Willers	Robert Crotteau	Joey Crotteau
Mark Roidt	Denny Drew	Al Laski

Survivors of the shootings: Lauren Hesebeck and Terry Willers.

Story about one of Vang's victims (WI Hunter Killer) - Jessica Willers
- - 11/24/2004 9:54:57 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288068/posts

** Criminal Complaint **

Direct link to Criminal Complaint
- - 11/23/04 12:20p Sawyer County Circuit Court - -
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/frontpage/pegl.pdf

Criminal complaint in hunting killing spree.
- - 11/23/2004 10:03:26 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287240/posts

** Vang's Accounts and History **

Accused Shooter Claiming Self- Defense, Playing Race Card (WI Hunter Massacre)
- - 11/23/2004 1:06:28 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286876/posts

Suspect says hunters provoked him; Vang says he was surrounded, called names and shot at
- - 11/23/2004 1:17:04 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286890/posts

Hunters Give Conflicting Accounts of Killings in Wisconsin
- - 11/24/2004 11:44:22 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287697/posts

Hunter Tells Police He Was Threatened
- - 11/24/2004 8:56:44 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287533/posts

Chai Soua Vang's military record (WI Deer Hunter Killer)
- - 11/26/2004 4:47:03 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289018/posts

** Possible Related Case **

Another twist in Chai Vang killing spree
- - 11/24/2004 9:45:29 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1287569/posts

Authorities also look at 2001 hunter slaying
- - 11/24/2004 1:24:17 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287762/posts

** Is This the Same Chai Soua Vang? **

Green Lake, County of vs. Chai Soua Vang
Green Lake County Case Number 2002FO000220
- - 04-26-2002 - -
Lengthy URL link to document

Article Confirms It is the Same Chai Soua Vang
- - 11/26/2004 5:52:26 - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1289045/posts#confirmation

** The SKS **

Rifle Used in WI Massacre Was Not An SKS
- - 11/25/2004 3:26:49 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288479/posts

Rare Weapon to Hunt Deer
- - 11/25/2004 1:11:50 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1288427/posts

** Gun Opponents Weigh In **

BANK ROBBERIES, PALM BEACH MURDERS, AND NOW FIVE HUNTERS DEAD IN WISCONSIN (Brady)
- - 11/22/2004 9:56:42 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286404/posts

Wisconsin Hunter Murders Show Need For Effective Assault Weapons Ban (VPC) - Violence Policy Center
- - 11/23/2004 9:42:59 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287226/posts

** FR marktwain's Lifetime Personal Experience in Area **

Background of the Wisconsin shooting area
- - 11/25/2004 5:08:08 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288506/posts

** Hmong Community and Reactions **

Hunting Massacre Suspect's Kin Stunned
- - 11/23/2004 7:20:30 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286588/posts

Collision of cultures-Hmong and white hunters have had disputes in the woods.
- - 11/23/2004 9:02:06 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286651/posts

Shooting baffles family, officials
- - 11/24/2004 9:48:04 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288065/posts

Hunters' shooting worries (Cal) state Hmong
- - 11/26/2004 12:26:23 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288901/posts

** Additional Articles **

'It makes no sense'-As sixth hunter dies, sheriff offers details …
- - 11/23/2004 9:06:28 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286654/posts

Hunter spotted Vang after shootings
- - 11/24/2004 7:52:47 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1288005/posts

Hunters almost never deliberately shoot others
- - 11/25/2004 5:59:06 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288518/posts

Investigators hit case hard; Similarities to unsolved 2001 slaying noted (WI Hunter Killings)
- - 11/26/2004 5:52:26 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289045/posts

[Ladysmith]

Self-defense - that's what he's going to claim.

[TexKat]

Attorney

It is not a question of who done it, it is a question of why.

Questions

?

Attorney- I did not approach them.

Question:Is it your contention contrary to what the police has released?

Answer: We don't have any of the information yet

Question: Do you think that Mr. Vang can get a fair trial.

Answer: I hope so.....

Fox News cutting in with their talking heads Jeralyn Merritt and Wendy Murphy.

[spodefly]

BTTT

[blu]

And the purpose of this presser is what???

We're the attorneys, we don't have all the facts.

I represent the Hmong people. We're sorry for the "incident", as loved as the victims were, so is Vang. We want to know what made him do it.

Oldest daughter: I love my father, we want to know what happened.

Everybody: This is not California, this will be tried in the court of law, not the court of public opinion [Note to reporters: Just hang around the town restaurant, bar and grocery store. Get to be good friends with the bailiff's wife, and somebody on the EMT squad.]

Summary: None of us know what happened, we just wanted to get our faces out there so Greta could check out our TVQ (excepting the daughter,she seemed quite sincere) We would also like to stir up the racial pot if needed.

Note: they all said how sorry they were for the victims, but it sounded kinda patronizing.

[Dr Snide]

my hunch is the first thing Vang's atty. is going to do is try to get a change of venue.

[TexKat]

The attorneys never used the word victim.

[Dr Snide]

The attorneys never used the word victim.

because their whole case is going to be that Vang is the victim. Get ready to be P.O. throughout this trial, I guarantee you will be.

[Ladysmith]

hubboy, I think you're right there.

[OXENinFLA]

Yes, very nice compilation.

I figured it was made by Backhoe before I saw your name, he's know for making like threads like this.

Great job!

[Right_in_Virginia]

I got the impression the attorneys are paving the way for an insanity defense...insanity brought on by the (our) culture.

[OXENinFLA]

And the one guy brought up Atkius Fintch and 'To Kill a mockingbird'.....They are just throwing red meat at the press.

[blu]

Yes,the emphasis will not be on what happened, but why it happened....said right before Fox cut away.

[Ladysmith]

Just a note of thanks to each of you. That HTML class I took years ago has never been more important to me as it is now.

[Ladysmith]

It may be time to bite the bullet and order cable for the TV again. This was maddening not being able to see this.

Sure appreciate your report.

[TexKat]

They may show a clip of the press conference here later. WCCO News Video Clips.

Headlines for Sunday, November 28: John Reger and Esme Murphy report (2:53)

[TexKat]

LOL. I don't know what I would do without my cable tv, internet and FR.

Sad but true.

[Brad’s Gramma]

WHOOOOO aaaaaa.....I went to the link and played the video. At the end of it, they said the 2 others w/the killer had been found. Not arrested but being interviewed...

Perhaps it was already posted, but I didn't see it.

[TexKat]

When they update they may have clips of the attorneys press conference. I will check later and I will also check to see if Fox News updates their site, if so I will post and ping you to it.

[Ladysmith]

Yep, it's posted somewhere! The authorities said they had them but wouldn't comment on it. ...grrr!

If they (or FoxNews) posts a video of the conference today, the group needs to be pinged to it.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Thanks! Actually, I got to listen to it. I called my sister who has FOX, she turned up the volume, put the phone down...and walked away.

I'd sure like to SEE it tho!