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Wisconsin Hunter Shooting Threads and Links - Thread One
Various threads and links

Posted on 11/26/2004 9:15:08 PM PST by Ladysmith

** Initial Reports and Updates **

Multiple Shooting in Wisconsin
- - 11/21/2004 6:04:56 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285519/posts

HUNTER GOES BERZERK IN WISCONSIN; AT LEAST FIVE DEAD
- - 11/21/2004 6:15:12 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285531/posts

Five dead, three injured after hunter denied access to tree stand
- - 11/21/2004 8:50:48 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285531/posts?page=200#200

News update: Five dead in Wisconsin after hunting dispute erupts into shooting
- - 11/21/2004 9:17:23 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285531/posts?page=220#220

SIXTH HUNTER DIES FROM SHOOTING INCIDENT
- - 11/22/2004 10:01:26 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286408/posts

Five killed, three wounded in Wisconsin shooting
- - 11/21/2004 10:33:17 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285662/posts

5 killed in shootout among deer hunters
- - 11/22/2004 11:17:09 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285968/posts

Wisconsin Town in Shock Over Shootings
- - 11/22/2004 2:41:19 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286123/posts

5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
- - 11/22/2004 7:31:35 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285788/posts

Names of 5 killed in shooting spree released
- - 11/22/2004 8:36:52 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286348/posts

WI Deadly Hunter Shooting Spree Update
- - 11/22/2004 8:56:07 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286363/posts

Row Ends With Five Deerly Departed [Real and tasteless headline]
- - 11/22/2004 9:14:22 AM - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285868/posts

Deer hunters shot in Wisconsin
- - 11/22/2004 9:20:55 AM CST- -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285876/posts


** Fund Raiser for Victims and Families **

Fund Set Up For WI Hunting Shooting Spree Victims & Families
- - 11/22/2004 9:02:27 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286365/posts

HMONG SET UP RELIEF FUND (For the Shooting Victims and Families)
- - 11/26/2004 5:27:12 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1286365/posts?page=9#9


Jessica Willers
Robert Crotteau
Joey Crotteau
Mark Roidt
Denny Drew
Al Laski

Survivors of the shootings: Lauren Hesebeck and Terry Willers.

Story about one of Vang's victims (WI Hunter Killer) - Jessica Willers
- - 11/24/2004 9:54:57 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288068/posts


** Criminal Complaint **

Direct link to Criminal Complaint
- - 11/23/04 12:20p Sawyer County Circuit Court - -
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/frontpage/pegl.pdf

Criminal complaint in hunting killing spree.
- - 11/23/2004 10:03:26 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287240/posts


** Vang's Accounts and History **

Accused Shooter Claiming Self- Defense, Playing Race Card (WI Hunter Massacre)
- - 11/23/2004 1:06:28 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286876/posts

Suspect says hunters provoked him; Vang says he was surrounded, called names and shot at
- - 11/23/2004 1:17:04 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286890/posts

Hunters Give Conflicting Accounts of Killings in Wisconsin
- - 11/24/2004 11:44:22 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287697/posts

Hunter Tells Police He Was Threatened
- - 11/24/2004 8:56:44 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287533/posts

Chai Soua Vang's military record (WI Deer Hunter Killer)
- - 11/26/2004 4:47:03 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289018/posts


** Possible Related Case **

Another twist in Chai Vang killing spree
- - 11/24/2004 9:45:29 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1287569/posts

Authorities also look at 2001 hunter slaying
- - 11/24/2004 1:24:17 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287762/posts


** Is This the Same Chai Soua Vang? **

Green Lake, County of vs. Chai Soua Vang
Green Lake County Case Number 2002FO000220

- - 04-26-2002 - -
Lengthy URL link to document

Article Confirms It is the Same Chai Soua Vang
- - 11/26/2004 5:52:26 - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1289045/posts#confirmation


** The SKS **

Rifle Used in WI Massacre Was Not An SKS
- - 11/25/2004 3:26:49 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288479/posts

Rare Weapon to Hunt Deer
- - 11/25/2004 1:11:50 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1288427/posts


** Gun Opponents Weigh In **

BANK ROBBERIES, PALM BEACH MURDERS, AND NOW FIVE HUNTERS DEAD IN WISCONSIN (Brady)
- - 11/22/2004 9:56:42 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286404/posts

Wisconsin Hunter Murders Show Need For Effective Assault Weapons Ban (VPC) - Violence Policy Center
- - 11/23/2004 9:42:59 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287226/posts


** FR marktwain's Lifetime Personal Experience in Area **

Background of the Wisconsin shooting area
- - 11/25/2004 5:08:08 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288506/posts


** Hmong Community and Reactions **

Hunting Massacre Suspect's Kin Stunned
- - 11/23/2004 7:20:30 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286588/posts

Collision of cultures-Hmong and white hunters have had disputes in the woods.
- - 11/23/2004 9:02:06 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286651/posts

Shooting baffles family, officials
- - 11/24/2004 9:48:04 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288065/posts

Hunters' shooting worries (Cal) state Hmong
- - 11/26/2004 12:26:23 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288901/posts


** Additional Articles **

'It makes no sense'-As sixth hunter dies, sheriff offers details …
- - 11/23/2004 9:06:28 AM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286654/posts

Hunter spotted Vang after shootings
- - 11/24/2004 7:52:47 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1288005/posts

Hunters almost never deliberately shoot others
- - 11/25/2004 5:59:06 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288518/posts

Investigators hit case hard; Similarities to unsolved 2001 slaying noted (WI Hunter Killings)
- - 11/26/2004 5:52:26 PM CST - -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289045/posts



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; vang; wihunters; wisconsin
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To: Brad's Gramma
"Other people think he's a killer - but in our culture, we just think he's a regular person,"

I'm speechless.

When in fact the author of that statement should be the one that is speechless.

61 posted on 11/28/2004 12:23:27 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: ljswisc

Oh my...


62 posted on 11/28/2004 12:24:32 PM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: Ladysmith

Good Luck!


63 posted on 11/28/2004 12:25:57 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: REDWOOD99

:o) Thanks! Now for some housework! ewww!


64 posted on 11/28/2004 12:34:56 PM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: Ladysmith; Brad's Gramma

Fox News just announced that the lawyers for Chai Vang should be giving their press conference in about 20 minutes. Fox also reporting that Vang is going to plead not guilty.


65 posted on 11/28/2004 12:44:56 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat; joesnuffy

HOW in the heck can you plead not guilty when you confessed to it?

Never mind...no need to answer.

Darn, and I don't have cable. If ANYONE gets a link to a video...PLEASE post and ping me!

Joe...see post #65.


66 posted on 11/28/2004 12:48:58 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot com! Check it out!!!)
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To: TexKat

FoxNewsless. We'll have to watch out for a solid article on it afterwards.


67 posted on 11/28/2004 1:06:02 PM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Chai Vang Attorney's hold press conference 11/28/04 3:00pm

Steven Cohen (sp?)

We recognize that the focus of this case is not on us. We do not have the time to answer all your questions. We understand that the focus of this case is the tragedy and the loss that has happened. We also realize that the Hmong community has been affected by what has happened.

These are a wonderful people that have come to this country.

We can promise and do have the power to treat this case with dignity and respect. We ask that all phases of this legal proceeding will be fair. We plan on trying this case in court.

68 posted on 11/28/2004 1:08:11 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: PjhCPA; Iowa Granny; ohioWfan; Petruchio; SJackson; Rytwyng; Dr Snide; ozaukeemom; Graybeard58; ...

Ping to #65. News conference may be on FoxNews now.


69 posted on 11/28/2004 1:09:16 PM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: Ladysmith; Brad's Gramma
Attorney for Vang:

We have been giving info about what will occur Tuesday morning. We are in the infant stages of this case. We don't have all of the information. While we are meeting with you today, we will share what we can. It is not our desire to take away from those that are grieving.

70 posted on 11/28/2004 1:11:02 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
HOW in the heck can you plead not guilty when you confessed to it?

I understand he has a team of three defense attorneys from Milwaukee. That's what they signed up for.

71 posted on 11/28/2004 1:14:05 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: TexKat
I would just like to go on the record and say this......

THE MEDIA NOW HAS A CASE TO FILL THE GAP LEFT BY THE SCOTT PETERSON CASE COMING TO A CLOSE.

72 posted on 11/28/2004 1:15:44 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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Jonathan Smith - attorney

We want to take the time to explain the process that will take place Tues- initial appearance in the basement of ? building. Opportunity to address bail, discuss scheduling of time of preliminary hearing. At the preliminary examination will be determined if a felony. Could possibly be waived. Then the arraignment (then we will be entitled to police reports).

Vang's daughter is in attendance at the press conference.

73 posted on 11/28/2004 1:15:46 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Excuse my gaps and misspellings (typings).


74 posted on 11/28/2004 1:16:38 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Hey, we aren't complaining! :o)


75 posted on 11/28/2004 1:17:43 PM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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Attorney Minkowski (sp?)

Hmong communities wants to express their condolences to the hunters community. Hmong communities well respected Vang. They (Hmong) community expects that the trial be held in a court of law and not in the media>

Chai Vang's daughter- expresses condolences. We all have questions. My father is a great person. At this time I don't know what my father did. I have not talked to him, I was driving down from Michigan. I am shocked. That is all I have to say for now.

76 posted on 11/28/2004 1:21:18 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

The last guy that was up before the daughter said somthing that caught my ears..........

"that he [Vang] had to respond to"

WTF is that supposed to mean?


77 posted on 11/28/2004 1:22:09 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Ladysmith
Impressive listing.

This is another one of countless cases demonstrating why we should be far more selective about immigrants who are admitted to this country.

78 posted on 11/28/2004 1:23:19 PM PST by Dante3
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To: OXENinFLA
The guy before the daughter w/ his "had to respond to" remark was trying to make it sound like Vang was in the right w/ what he did.

What a bunch of S^%#, I'd like to see him explain how shooting someone IN THE BACK in justified!
79 posted on 11/28/2004 1:25:35 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Dante3
All thanks to the contributions of so many here.
80 posted on 11/28/2004 1:27:00 PM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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