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Why Calling Conservatives "Nazis" is Such an Inane and Incongruous Remark
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 26, 2004 | JOE MARIANI

Posted on 11/26/2004 6:09:22 PM PST by CHARLITE

Once again, we're being ''treated'' to the same tired old cries of liberal outrage. How dare the stupid people of America not whole-heartedly embrace liberal ideas and policies? Why, they must all be mind-controlled. They must all be... Nazis!

The latest in a long string of Hollywood half-wits to invoke the Nazi meme is Linda Ronstadt, who said of the election, ''Now we've got a new bunch of Hitlers.'' Such diverse personalities as David Hoffman (the legal editor of Pravda), Senator (and former Kleagle in the KKK) Bobby ''Sheets'' Byrd (D-WVa), novelist/priest Andrew Greeley, former Vice-President Al Gore, and multi-billionaire anti-American George Soros (founder of MoveOn.org and other left-wing groups) have all torpedoed their own arguments by invoking Nazi comparisons, as have numerous other politicians, artists, pundits, and garden-variety liberals.

''Nazi'' is a sort of pet insult many liberals use to taunt conservatives without understanding what it really means, the same way a three-year-old will endlessly repeat any four-letter words someone might happen to drop in front of him or her. The more you say, ''Don't say that; it's a bad word'' the more likely you are to hear it.

The Nazi epithet is so over-abused that there's even a rule concerning it on the Internet, called Godwin's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. Sooner or later, someone's going to resurrect the Nazis... and whoever does so is generally understood to have lost the argument.

Comparing someone to a Nazi involves far more of an emotional appeal than a factual argument, unless the person is, in fact, a card-carrying Nazi. If you're not actually discussing genocide and brutal world domination, the Nazi comparison is just plain offensive. What confuses most people is its frequent application to pretty much anybody to the ideological right of Lenin.

In fact, the Nazis were actually socialists by nature, not capitalists. In a 1927 speech, Hitler said, ''We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.''

The word ''Nazi'' is short for Nationalsozialistische deutsche Arbeiter-Partei, or National Socialist German Workers' Party. Hitler came to power by turning the unemployed, the working class, and the academic elitists against the rather conservative German republic. In fact, once he achieved power, anyone who questioned his policies was branded a ''conservative reactionary'' by the state press.

In a widely distributed 1932 pamphlet, Joseph Goebbels addressed the question of Socialism. ''We are socialists,'' he wrote, ''because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces.''

The Nazi Party platform contained 25 demands, adopted in 1920 and essentially unaltered at the time Hitler took power. Many of those socialist demands resonate far better with modern-day American liberals than Conservatives. Consider the following examples:

7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens.

Does this sound more akin to the liberal belief that the government is responsible for job losses or gains, or the conservative position that jobs are created by private enterprise (though helped or hindered by current economic policies)? Does it sound like a demand for welfare?

11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

This is aimed directly at landlords and large business owners. It hardly seems likely that capitalists and conservatives would insist that no one receive any money unless he personally earn it by doing the actual work themselves.

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

If that doesn't sound like today's standard liberal hate speech against Halliburton, nothing ever will.

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

Nationalization of industries is hardly in line with the conservative aim of privatization of industries. It's liberals, in general, who want to nationalize industries (starting with healthcare).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

Wealth redistribution? Does that sound like a particularly right-wing ideal?

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

Republicans and conservatives are accused of wanting to halt Medicare and steal Social Security in every election cycle, so this demand for expansion could hardly be a part of any conservative agenda.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general.

Conservatives, who favor more limited government with lower taxes (in order to restrict its growth), would directly oppose a strong central government with unlimited authority (possibly resisting with guns, which German citizens first had to register, then surrender).

Despite the historical facts, liberals frequently insist on equating conservatives and Republicans to Nazis. This is only done to stir up feelings of hate, of course. If Democrats want to know why they keep losing elections, it's because they allow the left-wing politics of hatred to be their public face. Until the Democrats relegate liberals to the minority fringe where they belong, we will continue to see the country slide towards a one-party system, which would be detrimental to us all.

About the Writer: Joe Mariani is a computer consultant and freelance writer who lives in Pennsylvania. His website is available at: http://guardian.blogdrive.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agendas; conservatives; davidhoffman; georgesoros; georgewbush; hitler; kerrydefeat; leftwing; liberals; moveonorg; namecalling; nazis; policies; republicans; robertbyrd
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To: CHARLITE

The left has been using "Nazis" and "Hitler" for decades. It's so yesterday. They need to "move on" already. They're gonna get run over if they don't.


41 posted on 11/26/2004 8:40:54 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: BJClinton
Whether you realize it or not, you hit on the distinguishing factor.

; The Russians were "International" socialists [Workers of the world, unite!] and Hitler was a "national" socialist.

Stalin decreed that socialism would in no form be rendered to Hitler!

Had Hitler succeeded in convincing the Japanese to attack Russia from the east, not the USA, then saved our fate until after Russia was defeated; we would be speaking German today!

My grandfather was an isolationist but he was wrong and FDR was right! Bad as I hate to say that!

Don't forget that a Fascist is nothing more than the first cousin of a socialist; the fascist believes in private property being controlled by state regulations [familiar?].

42 posted on 11/26/2004 8:48:28 PM PST by Chapita (There are none so blind as those who refuse to see! Santana)
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To: Valin

LOL!


44 posted on 11/26/2004 9:42:36 PM PST by dix (Remember the Alamo, and God bless Texas)
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To: stockpirate; All
Calling Conservatives "Nazis" is Such an Inane and Incongruous Remark

These damn people annoy me so much-- I've heard all the slurs... I'm a homophobic, mysogonistic storm trooper, bent on throwing everybody's Grandmaw into a snow bank and starving The Children.

One of my neighbors is a black family-- nice folks, quiet, mind their own business, but they'll help you if you need a hand.

Then there's the gay couple we've lived next door to for 17 years- they're nice folks, too... not at all like the vainglorious, screechy drama queens you see on TV all the time.

Old Tom across the street liked to light up a joint after work ( health & age put a stop to that years ago... ) and sit on his porch with a beer... but since he never bothered me, I never bothered him about it. Who the Hell was he hurting, except maybe himself?

But... I'm the Nazi... I've learned to live with the stigma, and bluntly put, I don't care what the Left, the Media, the Hollywood crowd with so many dollars and so little sense ( cents! ) thinks of me anymore. Their opinion doesn't put gas in my oh! so! un-PC SUV's fuel tank, or bread on our table.

When they pay my bills, they can have a say in my life- until then, they can butt out.

45 posted on 11/27/2004 1:39:32 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: backhoe
If the truth were known, all of the pathetic mindless memorizers of other peoples work, (current generation) have no clue as to money management. They must rely on other people (conservatives) to make sure that they have a retirement plan. They live in a buble and went they speak the words bounce back at them, making them think they are saying what others think.

Look at Sean Penn, he did a PR campaign for Saddamn, talked about the misery of the Iraqi people,(food,medicine etc) and when recently contacted about the brides and the Oil for Food program scandal. What is his comment. NO COMMENT. They have the attention span of a two year old. Plus they have learned that a bad review is to be ignored. Pathetic.

46 posted on 11/27/2004 7:36:12 AM PST by marty60
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To: CHARLITE

bttt


47 posted on 11/27/2004 3:42:10 PM PST by Pagey (Hillary talking about the bible is as hypocritical as Bill carrying one out of church for 8 years)
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To: CHARLITE

Hey, DU lurkers, the NAZIS WERE LEFTYS LIKE YOU.


48 posted on 11/27/2004 4:04:41 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Slyfox
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!

Almost barfed part of my cheeseburger onto my monitor!!

FRiggin' great stuff!!!

ROTF!!!

49 posted on 11/27/2004 6:06:24 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: SlightOfTongue

Why, thank you.

50 posted on 11/27/2004 6:39:56 PM PST by Slyfox
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I am here linked in an article posted on another website. Can't name it publically so as not to offend. The article posted is very true and you can't convince a lefty that Hitler was a socialist it just can't be done.


51 posted on 11/27/2004 7:00:37 PM PST by SendemtoCanaduh
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