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1 posted on 11/26/2004 6:06:53 PM PST by ChristianDefender
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To: ChristianDefender

So what's the big deal? After all, a culture who practices genital mutilation on dirt floors is no better no worse than a culture who builds rocket ships and skyscrapers--at least that's what they taught me in my critical thinking class.


2 posted on 11/26/2004 6:10:11 PM PST by riri
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To: ChristianDefender

Why does the reader have to get to the sixth paragraph to learn that it is the Islamofascists that are practicing this?

Barbarians. Religion of peace, my a**.


3 posted on 11/26/2004 6:12:22 PM PST by rocky88 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe, 11/2/04 at 8pm EST)
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To: ChristianDefender

Genital mutilation? You mean like "circumcision"? Because that's what that is!


5 posted on 11/26/2004 6:13:30 PM PST by newzjunkey ("The rule of law has become confused with - indeed subverted by - the rule of judges." - Robert Bork)
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To: ChristianDefender
Genital Mutilation 'On the Increase in Europe'

It's good to have a hobby.

6 posted on 11/26/2004 6:15:07 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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8 posted on 11/26/2004 6:17:41 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: ChristianDefender

If Allah created women in a specific way, what right does any man have to alter that?


10 posted on 11/26/2004 6:17:56 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: ChristianDefender

I guess this explains the lack of cajones in France.


11 posted on 11/26/2004 6:20:13 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: ChristianDefender
Young girls born in Europe to immigrant families from Africa are being subjected to ritual genital mutilation, and authorities are doing little to discourage it, a leading women’s rights activist warned.

But they sure as hell can organize 100,000+ people to protest the evil United States, Americans and Bush.
13 posted on 11/26/2004 6:26:18 PM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: ChristianDefender

I've seen this many times. Good luck to all the multiculturists out there. Suck it up and celebrate diversity!


15 posted on 11/26/2004 6:31:24 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (From Ku Klux Klan to the modern era of the Koo Kleft Klan...the true RAT legacy.)
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To: ChristianDefender

No wonder the terrorist are such uptight bastards. They are removing the component responsible for the female orgasm. The cannot satisfy their women.


20 posted on 11/26/2004 6:42:30 PM PST by racnpartsales4u
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To: ChristianDefender; newzjunkey; Californiajones; chickenlips; sierrahome; CMOTB
newzjunky has a point..sometimes just part of the clitoris is cut off which makes it more like what is done to males.
sometimes much, much more is cut...

the entire practice is disgusting and sad and I found this part ot the article amazing "..... press the government to consider genital mutilation an “act of violence”--- there is a thought.

good article on the vile practice: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/2313097.html
30 posted on 11/26/2004 7:06:46 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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To: ChristianDefender

Ahhh, more tales of humanity about W's peaceful religion. /sarcasm


41 posted on 11/26/2004 8:11:59 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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Petra Bayr, an official with Austria’s Socialist Party, said the bloc’s women would press the government to consider genital mutilation an “act of violence” and legitimate grounds for women fleeing it to be granted asylum in Austria.

Sure, this'll fix everything. Just import the whole lot of them to Austria -- to where they'll promptly bring their fathers, brothers, husbands, etc.

43 posted on 11/26/2004 8:57:53 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ChristianDefender; All
Let me drop out of lurking & linking mode to add this:

Islam, The Religion of Peace® ? Click this picture:


Furthermore, I wrote this some time ago- nothing, not a single thing I have seen or witnessed since, has caused me to change my opinion:



The entire West ( dare I say "the civilized World?" ) is locked in a fight to the death with militant Islam.

There will be no second-place winner, no "third way" solution-- it is March or Die time, folks.

It is Us versus an eighth-century "culture" of plunder & pillage, forced religious "conversions," and the mistreatment of women.

The sooner we face up to this fact realistically and quit dancing around PC talking-point nonsense about diversity and tolerance, the better off we'll all be.

We did not pick this fight- which really has roots in Jimmy Carter's appeasement in 1979 of militants- but we had damned well better see it for what it is, and be prepared to face it and finish it.

I'll put it in raw, personal terms-- I don't want Sharia law visited upon my women, and I don't want a goat-roper "culture" infesting my land.

I don't want their vile, nasty, loathsome weapons of mass destruction loosed upon my fair country, either.

They picked the fight, and now it is up to us to finish it- balls to the wall, hammer and anvil, fire and blood and iron... freedom is never, ever free, and the coin you pay it in is men's lives and tears and blood.

What we saw during Gulf War I was our military doctrine ( high tech ) versus Soviet doctrine ( throw a lot of low tech iron at the problem )-- and we all know how that turned out.

What we have just seen in the 3-Week War is Information-Tech,
( What some are calling it Hyperwarfare... )
or 21st Century warfare versus 20th Century...

What I would suggest, and call your attention to, is the fact that we, and Israel, are capable of waging 21st Century warfare, and the entire Arab world is not.

Proven fact, by recent events.

One more thing- this will be a war where we are all called to be warriors- so I suggest to you that the time has come to get hard, and stay hard... it really is the time for Fire and Blood and Iron...


...and I am deadly, utterly serious about my tagline-- do you all recall what America did to the "Thousand-Year Reich?"


46 posted on 11/27/2004 12:50:33 AM PST by backhoe ( Islam has become the 21st century version of Nazism.)
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To: ChristianDefender; riri; rocky88; Fitzcarraldo; newzjunkey; billorites; MarineDad; Junior
Ayatollah Khomeini's Religious Teachings on Marriage, Divorce and Relationships

A woman may legally belong to a man in one of two ways; by continuing marriage or temporary marriage. In the former, the duration of the marriage need not be specified; in the latter, it must be stipulated, for example, that it is for a period of an hour, a day, a month, a year, or more.

A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister.

A father or a paternal grandfather has the right to marry off a child who is insane or has not reached puberty by acting as its representative. The child may not annul such a marriage after reaching puberty or regaining his sanity, unless the marriage is to his manifest disadvantage.

Any girl who is of age, that is, capable of understanding what is in her own best interest, if she wishes to get married and is a virgin, must procure the authorization of her father or paternal grandfather. The permission of her mother or brother is not required.

A marriage is annulled if a man finds that his wife is afflicted with one of the seven following disabilities: madness, leprosy, eczema, blindness, paralysis with aftereffects, malformation of the urinary and genital tracts or of the genital-tract and rectum through conjoining thereof, or vaginal malformation making Coitus impossible.

If a wife finds out after marriage that her husband is suffering from mental illness, that he is a castrate, impotent, or has had his testicles excised, she may apply for annulment of her marriage.

If a wife has her marriage annulled because her husband is unable to have sexual relations with her either vaginally or anally, he must pay her as damages one-half of her mehryeh (her price) specified in the marriage contract. If the husband or wife annuls the marriage for any of the above-mentioned reasons, the man owes nothing to the woman if they have had sexual relations together; if they have not, he must pay her the full amount of the dowry.

A Moslem woman may not marry a non-Moslem man; nor may a Moslem man marry a non-Moslem woman in continuing marriage, but he may take a Jewish or Christian woman in temporary marriage.

A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband's permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfillment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so.

A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to be paid damages if she is repudiated.

If a man who has married a girl who has not reached puberty possesses her sexually before her ninth birthday, inflicting traumatisms upon her, he has no right to repeat such an act with her.

A man who has contracted a continuing marriage may not leave his wife for so long a time as to allow her to question the validity of the marriage; however, he is not obligated to spend one night out of every four with her.

A husband must have sexual relations with his wife at least once in every four months.

A woman who has been temporarily married in exchange for a previously established dowry has no right to demand that her daily expenses be paid by her husband, even when she becomes pregnant.

A temporary marriage, even though only one of convenience, is nevertheless legal.

A man must not abstain from having sexual relations with his temporary wife for more than four months.

If a father (or paternal grandfather) marries off his daughter (or granddaughter) in her absence without knowing for a certainty that she is alive, the marriage becomes null and void as soon as it is established that she was dead at the time of the marriage.

To look upon the face and hair of a girl who has not reached puberty, if it is done without intention of enjoyment thereof, and if one is not afraid of succumbing to temptation, may be tolerated. It is however recommended that one not look upon her belly or thighs, which must remain covered.

To look upon the faces and hands of Jewish or Christian women, if this is not done with intention of enjoyment thereof, and if one does not fear temptation, is tolerated.

A woman must hide her body and her hair from the eyes of men. It is highly recommended that she also hide them from those of prepubic boys, if she suspects that they may look upon her with lust.

If a man is called upon, for medical reasons, to look upon a woman other than his wife and to touch her body, he is permitted to do so,but if he can give such care by only looking at the body he must not touch it, and if he can give it by only touching, he must not look at it.

A woman who becomes pregnant as a result of adultery must not have an abortion.
If a man commits adultery with an unmarried woman, and subsequently marries her, the child born of that marriage will be a bastard unless the parents can be sure it was conceived after they were married.

A child born of an adulterous father is legitimate.

The best person to breast-feed a newborn baby it its own mother. It is preferable that she not ask to be paid for such service, but that her husband pay her for it of his own free will. If the sum the mother asks for is greater than that charged by a wet nurse, the husband is free to take the child from its mother and turn it over to the wet nurse.


A man who repudiates his wife must be of sound mind and past the age of puberty. He must do so of his own free will and without any constraint; therefore, if the formula for divorce is spoken in jest the marriage is not annulled.

A woman temporarily married, say, for a month or a year, has her marriage automatically annulled at the end of that time, or at any other time when the husband releases her from the balance of her engagement. It is not necessary for this that there be any witnesses, or that the woman have had her period.

A woman who has not yet reached the age of nine or a menopausal woman may remarry immediately after divorce, without waiting the hundred days that are otherwise required.

A woman who has had her ninth birthday, or who has not yet entered menopause, must wait for three menstrual periods after her divorce before being allowed to remarry. If a woman who has not reached her ninth birthday or who has not entered menopause gets temporarily married, she must, at the end of the contract or when the husband has released her from part of it, wait two menstrual periods or forty-five days before marrying again.

If the father or paternal grandfather of a boy has him marry a woman for a temporary marriage, he may prematurely cancel it in the boy's interest, even if the marriage was contracted before the boy reached the age of puberty. If, for example, a fourteen-year-old boy has been married off to a woman for a period of two years, they may return her freedom to the woman before this time has run its course; but a continuing marriage cannot be broken in this way.

If a man repudiates his wife without informing her of it, and continues to meet her expenses for a period of, say, a year, and at the end of that time informs her that he got a divorce a year earlier and shows her proof of it, he may require that she return to him anything he has bought or given her during that time, provided that she has not used it up or consumed it, in which case he cannot demand its return.

If a child dies within the mother's womb and it is a danger to her life to leave it there, it must be extracted in the easiest way possible; it can. if need be, cut into pieces; this should be done by the woman's husband or a midwife.

A woman who wishes to pursue her studies toward the end of being able to earn her living through respectable work, and who has a male teacher, may do so if she keeps her face covered and has no contact with men; but if-that is inevitable, and religious and moral tenets are thus undermined, she must give up her studies. Girls and boys who attend coeducational classes in grammar schools, high schools, universities, or other teaching establishments, and who, in order to legalize such a situation, wish to contract a temporary marriage may do so without the permission of their fathers. The same applies if the boy and girl are in love but hesitate to ask for such permission.

From the Dr. Homa Darabi Foundation

47 posted on 12/07/2004 6:06:49 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: ChristianDefender; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; ...
Onward Muslim Soldiers - ping.

(The worth of a woman in Islam is that of a posession - a cow, or a piece of land.)

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Young girls born in Europe to immigrant families from Africa are being subjected to ritual genital mutilation, and authorities are doing little to discourage it, a leading women’s rights activist warned.

Islamic religious leaders are telling Europe’s Muslim Africans that the prophets recommend the ancient ritual, which involves the removal of the clitoris, often with a dull blade and no anaesthesia, Dirie said.

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49 posted on 12/07/2004 6:13:39 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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Seems to me these fellows don't have the first idea as to how to treat a lady.


54 posted on 12/07/2004 7:16:47 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Islam's Hatred of the Clitoris

62 posted on 12/09/2004 4:16:31 AM PST by ppaul
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