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Airport screeners say getting up close and personal is no fun
Lexington Herald-Leader ^ | 25 November 2004 | BY COLLEEN MCCAIN NELSON

Posted on 11/25/2004 8:45:04 PM PST by concretebob

In the old days, the indignities of air travel involved intrusive elbows from seatmates and toddlers kicking your seatback.

In the last few years, they included removing your shoes to get through security and having your nail clippers confiscated.

And now this: full-body pat-downs - including bra checks - for people who set off metal detectors or are unlucky enough to be randomly selected.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; airport; down; pat; screeners; search; tsa
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To: freakboy
Can you imagine the backlash if a woman in a burqua was subjected to such searches?

That's why I'm opening Burquas 'R Us franchises just outside all major airports. My venture capital, of course, is coming from OBL.

21 posted on 11/25/2004 9:13:43 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Mr Rogers
Wait until they start searching for people doing this:
According to Colombia's leading daily El Tiempo, a female visitor's plan to smuggle a handgun into a Bogota prison backfired last Sunday when the weapon became lodged inside the woman's colon and had to be surgically removed. According to officials, Tirisa Ruiz, 43, planned to pass the well-hidden firearm off to a loved one inside Bogota's Picota Prison on visiting day. Unfortunately, the weapon didn't come out as easily as it went in, and the woman had to undergo surgery at the city's El Tunal hospital.

22 posted on 11/25/2004 9:14:16 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Old Sarge; Marine Inspector; BurbankKarl; judicial meanz; ExSoldier; MamaDearest; All

THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION. Please contact your agency to determine if my suggestions have merit for use in your own agency.

I am going to address this message to all you Airport Screeners and I have pinged some FReeper friends who may want to add their opinions, too.

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I have searched quite a number of people over the years.
No one likes to be searched.
I understand that.

I know you can reduce the stress most of the time on the part of the searchees if you:

1. Look them straight in the eye and tell them what you are going to do and how you are going to do it. Be polite, firm and speak in a quiet, but clear tone of voice. Let them know each step of the search what you want them to do ( hold out your arms, remove your shoes, etc.).
2. Ask them if they have any needles, weapons, or anything else that needs to be removed from their person before they board their plane. (Note: You will need to ask your supervisor if suggestion #2 is permissible for use in your agency before implementing suggestion #2.)
3. Call a supervisor or a second person to stand with you while you conduct your pat search if the searchee seems exceptionally nervous, unusual, or intoxicated.


Note:

THIS IS MY OPINION-SUGGESTION: If you find something unusual or something not permissable on a flight while pat-searching a passenger; STOP YOUR SEARCH at that point. Call your supervisor over to conduct a more thorough search in the location the airport has designated.


23 posted on 11/25/2004 9:16:37 PM PST by Cindy
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To: concretebob
The rules make it plain that pat downs of sensitive areas must be done with the back or edge of the hand.
Any woman 'palpated' by some creep inspector plainly has a cause of action for sexual assault.

Any inspector who hits me in the testicles with a wand is going to get a stomping in self defense and have charges filed against him. Yes, I know he will file against me, but there are times you just have to do the right thing.

From the statistics, it seems most inspectors are doing an honest job, but a few % are going to destroy the program with their sado-sexual perversion.

So9

24 posted on 11/25/2004 9:17:01 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Mr Rogers

Yep.


25 posted on 11/25/2004 9:17:14 PM PST by Cindy
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To: quantim
Small price to pay for a spoon-fed civil service job with full bennies at taxpayer expense.

Good point.

2nd Note to Self: Wear "special" socks. Include HAZMAT bag for disposal after screening.

26 posted on 11/25/2004 9:19:00 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: BP2

A few years ago, I saw a guy have to put his sandles through the x-ray machine. Un-freeking believable mentality of these screeners. If I ever have to fly again, I'm going to approach the screening area barefoot. Then some jackass will inspect my toenails for traces of C4.


27 posted on 11/25/2004 9:19:15 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: FatherofFive
Fly naked.

It's been done. Check out the link.

WARNING nudity. Not pornographic, just naked people.

http://www.naked-air.com/

After looking at the pictures, you'll never suggest that again. Yuk.

28 posted on 11/25/2004 9:19:16 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FatherofFive

I agree.
Passengers should only be allowed robes supplied
by the airline.


29 posted on 11/25/2004 9:19:22 PM PST by greasepaint
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To: af_vet_rr
You do have to wonder...what's to stop somebody who has a fetish for feeling up strangers from getting a job with the TSA?

The porn industry pays better. OTOH, they seem to have higher employment standards.

30 posted on 11/25/2004 9:22:44 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: concretebob

That is what I suspected. I appreciate your "obtuse" descretion. :-)

The problem is that if someone really wants to blow up a plane they will find a way. Goodness, it would be entirely possible to have explosives implanted surgically in the body's interior (male or female) using laproscopy. It would only require a minor incision. No "sniffer" could smell it, and only a deep penetrating xray, with a radiologist to interpret it, would be able to see it.

Like I said earlier, they need someone running the TSA that has a little more common sense. One has to balance risk vs reward. Personally, I don't see that subjecting women to pat down is going to stop a bombing. Therefore, women smuggling bombs in bras is not a great "risk" and there is very little "reward" (stopping a bombing) to be gained. However, the public relations damage these new procedures have caused is actually hurting the anti-terror efforts by turning the public against the TSA.

Whoever ordered this procedure to be instituted by the TSA should be canned ASAP, for being an idiot, and an immediate apology made to the traveling public.


31 posted on 11/25/2004 9:23:35 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: FreedomCalls

Must have been a Glock.


32 posted on 11/25/2004 9:23:55 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Or a big plate of baked beans. And a beer to wash it down.


33 posted on 11/25/2004 9:24:24 PM PST by Noumenon (The Left's dedication to the destruction of a free society makes them unfit to live in that society.)
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To: FreedomCalls

I forgot to ask. Was she caught by the pussy posse?


34 posted on 11/25/2004 9:24:59 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Noumenon
Or a big plate of baked beans. And a beer to wash it down.

Unfortunately, I don't drink. If air travel keeps getting worse, though, I may start.

35 posted on 11/25/2004 9:25:45 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: FreedomCalls

OMG Thats disgusting...wait let me make sure its really disgusting BRB :)


36 posted on 11/25/2004 9:26:48 PM PST by concretebob (If theres guns in the house one better be yours, don't be naked next to any fishing lures)
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To: Sola Veritas
The problem is that if someone really wants to blow up a plane they will find a way.

Precisely. That is why they need to be searching for people who have the desire to blow up a plane and not searching innocent people for devices that will not be used to blow up a plane.

37 posted on 11/25/2004 9:27:37 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: All
I'm surprised to see the responses here. I have gotten the pat-downs more than once - and yes ladies they do check the groin area on us guys - and as far as I'm concerned, a brief moment of minor indignity is a small price to pay for the chance to save thousands of lives.

I do agree with FreedomCalls that they are looking for weapons when they should be looking for terrorists, but the bottom line is that isn't going to happen without a major Supreme Court overthrow of 3 decades of "civil rights". So, unfortunately, if you don't like it, take the bus, train, or a car.

38 posted on 11/25/2004 9:29:19 PM PST by Heatseeker
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To: FreedomCalls; FatherofFive

39 posted on 11/25/2004 9:29:31 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Cobra64

C64 you are so baaaaad!!!ROFLMAO


40 posted on 11/25/2004 9:29:51 PM PST by concretebob (She didn't accidently get good in bed, you can't join the church if you're already dead)
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