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President Bush's Potential Supreme Court Picks are Pro-Life on Abortion
LifeNews.com ^ | November 24, 2004 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 11/25/2004 10:01:13 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Huck
It ought to be overturned not because it authorizes killing babies, but because it's clearly bad law not based in reality.

I see it as a two-fer. I don't approve of killing kids and I don't approve of Judges who try legislate from the bench.

41 posted on 11/25/2004 4:00:31 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I shall follow your advise to the letter...the day I replace my brain with a cauliflower.)
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To: MHGinTN
And just how will overturning Roe make abortion illegal?

It is an admission on their part that once Roe v. Wade is gone that there is enough public sentiment against abortion that laws will be passed at the State level making it illegal at least in some states.

As technology advances more and more people are coming to reject the abortion argument that it is not a baby. You see a blob on the screen it is one thing, you see a little face, that is quite something else. The child can no longer be de-humanized. Once that happens you can no longer say that killing them is not murder.

42 posted on 11/25/2004 4:08:06 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I shall follow your advise to the letter...the day I replace my brain with a cauliflower.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

For me, it's definitely a one-fer. For one thing, overturning Roe won't make abortion illegal. It will allow some states to make it illegal, and will allow for common sense laws like parental notification, but you'll still have legal abortions and pills. So it's not pro-life. It's simply correcting a bad decision.


43 posted on 11/25/2004 4:34:01 PM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: Huck

As I understand it, the US Constitution guarantees the right to life.

Therefore, abortion is clearly unconstitutional. Enough said. Bring these new Justices on!


44 posted on 11/25/2004 4:56:28 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Huck

It ought to be overturned because it authorizes killing babies. Period.


45 posted on 11/25/2004 5:12:10 PM PST by skr
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To: Huck
The prerequisite for the incoming Supreme Court Justices need NOT be based upon complexion, race or creed, but whether they are strict Constitutionalists who value the sanctity of life in the womb.

Why should this be so hard?

46 posted on 11/25/2004 5:17:08 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Huck
I know it will not make it illegal. But it will make it no longer mandatory for it to be legal as it is now.

That to me is pro-life.

Small steps.

47 posted on 11/25/2004 6:47:08 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I shall follow your advise to the letter...the day I replace my brain with a cauliflower.)
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To: nickcarraway; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...

Thanksgiving day prayers for life!


48 posted on 11/25/2004 6:48:22 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
As I understand it, the US Constitution guarantees the right to life.

Not in so many words. That is part of the Declaration of Independence not the Constitution. However it does state that no one may be deprived of life or property without due process.

If we acknowledge that children in the womb have the same rights as children out of the womb then before the child can be killed there must be due process. The child must be accused of a crime, there must be a trial and the child must have legal representation. The jury of his peers is going to be a bit tricky also to even stand trial a person must be able to assist in his own defense. Even if you manage that I have yet to hear of a single case where a pre-born child comitted a capital crime so that should pretty much end it.

49 posted on 11/25/2004 6:57:02 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I shall follow your advise to the letter...the day I replace my brain with a cauliflower.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
As I understand it, the US Constitution guarantees the right to life.

Apparantly not to the Founders who wrote and ratified the document. They had their own state laws on the subject. Scalia points that out in demonstrating the absurdity of a constitutional protection of abortion, when the plain facts show the federals are not supposed to be involved in this matter at all. You may still believe that the unborn ought to enjoy Constitutional protection, just know that that would respresent a departure from the actual meaning and force of the document.

50 posted on 11/25/2004 10:11:09 PM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: F16Fighter
but whether they are strict Constitutionalists who value the sanctity of life in the womb. Why should this be so hard?

As long as they have the first part, the second part is irrelevant.

51 posted on 11/25/2004 10:11:57 PM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: skr
It ought to be overturned because it authorizes killing babies. Period.

The overturning of Roe merely returns the regulation of baby killing to the states. I presume Massachusetts, New Jersey, Vermont, California and several other states will continue the practice post-Roe. In fact, the overturning of Roe will show that much of the democrat scare mongering is nothing more than hype. Most women will still have access to abortions post-Roe.

To me, baby killing is just one more policy question. The issue is how policy questions get resolved. Judicial fiat of any kind is wrong and must be stopped. Congress, a beast in its own right, is more easily contained than unaccountable judges. I want the people to take back the process of government. Then we will be in a position to address all the important issues.

52 posted on 11/25/2004 10:16:24 PM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: Aussie Dasher
As I understand it, the US Constitution guarantees the right to life.

Point it out to me. I don't recall. In fact, the Constitution infers the right to deprive life in the 5th amendment. At that time, states had their own laws on abortion and the national government had nothing to do with it.

53 posted on 11/25/2004 10:20:06 PM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: Huck
"As long as they have the first part, the second part is irrelevant."

In theory...

Remember "David Souter."

54 posted on 11/25/2004 10:25:38 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Remember "David Souter."

I don't get your point. Souter is not a strict constructionist.

55 posted on 11/25/2004 10:30:16 PM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: F16Fighter

I'm most impressed with Janice Rogers Brown, based on this article. I like where she says "When fundamentally moral and philosophical issues are involved and the questions are fairly debatable," Brown wrote, "the judgment call belongs to the Legislature. They represent the will of the people."


56 posted on 11/25/2004 10:32:10 PM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: Huck

I think the Court could legitimately go beyond just overturning Roe v. Wade and move to outlaw abortion, being that the right to life is the most clear constitutional principle. No one has a right to deny the right to life to another without due process of law, even the states.

I wouldn't expect that to happen though. For one thing, NOW would suicide-bomb the Judges' chambers.


57 posted on 11/25/2004 10:32:26 PM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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To: Huck
" Souter is not a strict constructionist."

George H. Bush & Co. were a bit sloppy with their "research," and discovered that fact much too late.

58 posted on 11/25/2004 10:34:57 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
George H. Bush & Co. were a bit sloppy with their "research," and discovered that fact much too late.

That's true. He was truly a disaster. I don't think GWB's team will make that mistake. GWB has promised Scalias. I'm hoping he delivers precisely that. Janice Rogers Brown seems to fit the bill. I'll have to read more on her.

59 posted on 11/25/2004 10:37:00 PM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; Huck

As I understand it, many states passed laws that restrict or outlaw abortion and they will have the force of law should Roe be overturned.

So, yes, that is a pro-life move on the part of the Court.


60 posted on 11/25/2004 10:37:26 PM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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