Posted on 11/24/2004 11:03:34 PM PST by Destro
Thursday, November 25, 2004
Winner declared in Ukraine; opposition calls for national strike
By Peter Finn / The Washington Post
KIEV, Ukraine - Ukraine's Central Elections Commission declared Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych the winner of the country's bitterly disputed presidential vote Wednesday, defying strong pressure from the United States and other Western countries. In response, opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko called for a national strike starting Thursday.
Following the commission's ruling that Yanukovych won 49.46 percent of the vote to 46.61 percent for Yushchenko, rhetoric from both camps escalated, with each accusing the other of planning a coup. Hundreds of thousands of opposition supporters remained in the streets, pressing their claim that Yanukovych stole the election. Smaller numbers of Yanukovych supporters also arrived in the city.
Socialist Party leader Oleksandr Moroz, one of Yuschenko's key strategists, said the opposition was "organizing citizens, stopping lessons at schools and universities, stopping work at enterprises, stopping transport ... and, thus, we'll force the authorities to think about what they are doing."
President Kuchma said that Yushchenko's supporters were trying to "carry out ... a coup d'etat," according to the Interfax News Agency. He told foreign governments to "refrain from interference in Ukraine's affairs."
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I gather as honest as any election in Mexico or Chicago is.
Or Washington state.
No Russian tanks, only a Hungarian economic bomb named Soros and a corrupt media shrapnelfest of lies.... We only had the Liberals trying for 50 years to disarm us--and Liz Edwards' veiled threat of no anarchist violence IF THEY WON....difference isn't in any unwillingness to use violence here, it's in our ability here to fight back. Viva la NRA. Viva Bloggers and FR!
either way, this is simply not the same as our elections.
Enjoy. BBC said it was rumors.
Do make time to read the tanks thread, at least the first page or two. It is very funny.
thanks for finding that, and clearing it up.
where did bbc say it was rumors?
Maidan is the ones that starte dthe rumor to whip up support and Western support.
Regardless of our own "favorites," that the vote tabulation in Ukraine was not allowed to be observed impartially leaves any Russian-declared "winner" without legitimacy.
Ukraine is already on our side on WOT
Euroweenies' candidate is AGAINST it.
How many Russian troops are helping us in Iraq? And how many Ukrainian troops would Putin's puppet send? Yanukovich has promised to cut off talks about joining NATO, for example. Nobody's perfect - but Yanukovich is decidedly less perfect.
How do you say Sieg Heil! in Ukrainian?
It is fascinating how the Sorosian method of coup d'etat resembles the classic Fascist coup d'etat - the Black Shirt march on Rome in 1922. Only today the shirts are orange.
Did Republican investigations charge that Soros was a "capo" in the Nazi prison camps? Maybe he learned a thing or two under his former masters?
Hold on there. That 'accepted the backing' thing is overblown in a parliamentary system like Ukraine's, as is any blanket statement calling these groups Neo-Nazi and extreme nationalist. We could call out the Yanukovych team for being endorsed by Communists and labor leagues as well as their own brand of extreme nationalists. As to Yush being anti-semitic, I won't argue that--but I will point out that BOTH sides have that fault, and you can't dispute THAT.
Certainly, there are ties to groups that were fighting on the side of the Nazis in WWII that have endorsed Yushchenko. Those groups were fighting the Communists, too! There is certainly a real issue for discussion, which you may address to Ukrainians, as to just how pro-Nazi Ukraine was while it was fighting on the side of the Germans during WWII. The Commies are obviously not going to avoid saying they were 100% Nazi in an effort to smear Yush.
I don't know about Moroz. But as to Timoshenko--yes, she's dirty. That doesn't necessarily tar the man she campaigns for in this system--it's darn hard to keep clean and get elected in the Ukraine, from what I read, and money is hugely important in this election, too. And it's not like Timoshenko's hand in the till isn't dwarfed by Kuchma's giant iron fist, whose regime explicitly endorsed Yanuk and stole the election and half the country. Lest you forget, Yanuk was PM of the kleptocracy under Kuchma, too.
What you are printing here is the anti-Yushchenko propaganda that the hard left is putting out in a bid to keep him out and install the Russki puppet. I respect your opinion, and I'm curious as to why you dislike Yushchenko so much. I am not reflexively saying that I like him, but I get the impression that any positives that come up about this situation you are looking to refute. Why?
the hard left is backing Yushchenko - like it or not.
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