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Chat rooms targeted in hunt for terrorists
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | November 25, 2004 | World Net Daily

Posted on 11/24/2004 10:11:04 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie

As part of the effort to keep America secure from future acts of violence, the U.S. is looking at monitoring Internet chat rooms to identify potential terrorists.

According to CNET News.com, the CIA is quietly funding research into surveillance of online discussion halls.

In April 2003, the intelligence agency reportedly agreed to finance a series of research projects that newly disclosed government documents indicate were intended to create "new capabilities to combat terrorism through advanced technology."

One of the projects at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y., centers on profiling the behavior of those who talk in chat rooms.

The money is said to come from the National Science Foundation, but the CIA was part of the process for choosing which parties would receive the research grants.

It's unclear, though, how far into the future the CIA will continue its relationship, as an official said the two-year agreement was unlikely to be renewed for the 2005 fiscal year.

"Probably we won't be working with the CIA anymore at all," NSF program director Leland Jameson told CNET. "I think that people have moved on to other things."

The disclosure of the CIA's involvement is raising the eyebrows of some privacy advocates.

"The intelligence community is changing the priorities of scientific research in the U.S.," Marc Rotenberg, director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, or EPIC, told CNET. "You have to be careful that the National Science Foundation doesn't become the National Spy Foundation."

But Al Teich, director of science and policy programs at the American Association for the Advancement of Science, said he doesn't have a problem with the CIA's financing of research on terrorism in general.

"I don't know about chat-room surveillance, but doing research on issues related to terrorism is certainly legitimate," Teich said. "Whether the CIA ought to be funding research in universities in a clandestine manner is a different issue."


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1 posted on 11/24/2004 10:11:05 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie
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To: 26lemoncharlie
No Comments ?

Guess that article got everyone paranoid..

( Are we being "surveilled" ? )

2 posted on 11/24/2004 10:34:00 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

There is no way to monitor every chat room, me and you could launch programs and start a temporary chat room between us. Chat rooms are ephemeral


3 posted on 11/24/2004 10:37:13 PM PST by GeronL ([[[[[[[[[[[This tagline closed until further notice- Homeland Security Dept-]]]]]]]]]]]]]])
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To: GeronL

I am not sure if we are being watched or not. I look at the Dutch and I don't like what I see or what I hear that's going on over their. This Hate Crime Speech is a supression of our Freedom of Speech.

It always has been, you hear the same Crap in Holland and England, Hate Crime speec, Hate Crime Speech. So if you criticize what your government is doing in Holland it is a HATE CRIME!! Is this what the Dems had in mind for here, is this what the US Gov has in mind?? Big Trouble in Flyover America country!! Scary Huh??!!


4 posted on 11/24/2004 10:48:35 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: GeronL

Is that known as a DCC connection?


5 posted on 11/24/2004 10:51:51 PM PST by Baraonda (“Similia similibus curantur” (like cures like).)
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To: Baraonda

I am not sure. I don't think I've ever used it


6 posted on 11/24/2004 11:00:07 PM PST by GeronL ([[[[[[[[[[[This tagline closed until further notice- Homeland Security Dept-]]]]]]]]]]]]]])
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To: USF

Kubark calling. Magic Lanterns are in the upper Echelons of Carnivores PING. :-)


7 posted on 11/24/2004 11:01:35 PM PST by Proud Infidel
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Lets hope it does not happen here


8 posted on 11/24/2004 11:01:44 PM PST by GeronL ([[[[[[[[[[[This tagline closed until further notice- Homeland Security Dept-]]]]]]]]]]]]]])
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To: GeronL

DCC for Direct Computer to Computer is used on Internet Relay Chat (IRC) and it bypasses the IRC servers you and the other party are connected to.

I haven't used IRC in about six years now. Used to run a very popular channel in Undernet.


9 posted on 11/24/2004 11:06:38 PM PST by Baraonda (“Similia similibus curantur” (like cures like).)
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To: Baraonda

I guess so. I think there are others too, probably runs on the same principle


10 posted on 11/24/2004 11:13:26 PM PST by GeronL ([[[[[[[[[[[This tagline closed until further notice- Homeland Security Dept-]]]]]]]]]]]]]])
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To: Drammach
Top Secret Memo to the CIA:

Looking for potential terrorists in Internet chat rooms? EASY!!

Just go monitor Democrat Underground. Almost anyone of the raving, psychotic, vile anti-American participants on that site scare the living beJesus out of me, and their hatred of the United States is awesome. They strike me as potential terrorists one and all!

11 posted on 11/24/2004 11:45:54 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Don't worry...No terrorist in their "right" mind would come here.....


12 posted on 11/25/2004 1:18:46 AM PST by Route101
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To: Route101

Agreed...but, can you imagine what it would be like if Kerry had managed to pull off a coup?


13 posted on 11/25/2004 4:14:02 AM PST by Baytovin
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To: Route101
Don't worry...No terrorist in their "right" mind would come here.....

The term "terrorist" has been redefined in the last few years. I'm sure I have the fbi version of it around here somewhere. A search from post through the months following 9/11 should produce it. Leave it to say, don't be so sure many here wouldn't be textbook examples. Blackbird.

14 posted on 11/25/2004 4:20:08 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: 26lemoncharlie

It doesn't bother me, I have nothing to hide neither do most people who frequent free republic, I do suppose it's going to cramp the style of some over at democratic underground.


15 posted on 11/25/2004 4:49:04 AM PST by marta R
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To: 26lemoncharlie
I am not sure if we are being watched or not.

Thats why it is always best to wear clean underwear and a bathrobe just in case.......

16 posted on 11/25/2004 4:55:02 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Michigan's last flock of penguins left for the west coast in 1823 never to be heard from again.)
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To: BlackbirdSST
don't be so sure many here wouldn't be textbook examples.

I don't think you'll find many here meeting the FBI definition "terrorist," but you'll sure find lots of us fitting the definition, "kook burger."

17 posted on 11/25/2004 5:03:48 AM PST by ASA Vet (What if there were no hypothetical questions?)
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To: Baraonda
No, a DCC connection is so that one can talk or send files directly, computer to computer, by bypassing the irc server.

That way it's harder for others to listen in on conversations or if there are splits in the servers, you can keep a conversation going even if you and the other person are on opposite sides of the split or even if you are both knocked off servers due to splits or DoS attacks that take one or more servers down.

18 posted on 11/25/2004 5:04:02 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Well, I would say that everyone on FreeRepublic (excepting the trolls who get banned rather quickly) LOVES AMERICA~ and could never be considered an anti-American terrorist~
We are true patriots. We love our mother, our president, our country, our Constitution, apple pie, etc. Cheesecake, pumpkin pie, mashed potatoes, steak,YUM..
I forgot what the subject was.... LOL
EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT TURKEY DAY~


19 posted on 11/25/2004 5:08:48 AM PST by buffyt (~It is not a choice ~ It is a CHILD!~)
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To: Drammach
( Are we being "surveilled" ? )

http://www.paracel.com (And that's the obsolete technology.)

Any doubt?

20 posted on 11/25/2004 5:19:31 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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