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JFK and the corset that helped to kill a president
Houston Chronicle ^ | 11-23-2004 | By JAMES RESTON JR.

Posted on 11/24/2004 12:03:50 PM PST by weegee

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To: Grendel9
The McGruder film also shows the President lifting his arms

You mean there was a SECOND film? You mean that Zapruder wasn't the only one with a movie camera that day?

21 posted on 11/24/2004 12:32:41 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: weegee
Was Lee Harvey Oswald the lone assassin?

Maybe. Of corset it could have been someone else.

22 posted on 11/24/2004 12:33:39 PM PST by N. Theknow (DU, Michael Moore, Hollywood, etc. are all dogcrap on the Shoe Of Life)
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To: weegee

Arafat is dead


23 posted on 11/24/2004 12:34:13 PM PST by artifax
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To: Monterrosa-24
I just object to "would surely".

Maybe. Maybe not.

And with that uncertainty, I don't think it merits its own article, book or subject.

24 posted on 11/24/2004 12:36:40 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
After all his planning and practice, would Oswald have been so inept as to have used a steel jacketed slug? Not hardly.

The ammunition that LHO used was full metal jacketed. No mushrooming, hence the small exit wound.

25 posted on 11/24/2004 12:37:01 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: weegee

Well this is totally inane...if Kennedy wasn't wearing the corset in the first place, his body wouldn't have been in the same position when he took the first shot. It would have hit him somewhere else. This invalidates the entire discussion.


26 posted on 11/24/2004 12:37:35 PM PST by Paco
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To: weegee

This is all just, "swatting at the flies." It's what LBJ wanted everyone to do. During 64, LBJ got busy pushing Civil Rights legislation (which he really didn't believe in), micro-managing the WC Report through J. Edgar, and pumping troops into Nam to further obfuscate. We'll never know how LBJ had the hit pulled off.


27 posted on 11/24/2004 12:38:04 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: ElkGroveDan

I don't know the name but yes indeed there is a second film of the shooting. It is from the other side of the street and a little farther away. It is also color.


28 posted on 11/24/2004 12:41:03 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: All

let's be honest. That guy would've died in office no matter what. He was ill to the bone. The corset he was wearing was to keep his bones, spine, ribs in place. A lot of his bone tissue had withered away. He should never have been president with his ill health and drug/medicine use. The reason he was still alive was sheer will and drugs, not a good constitution.


29 posted on 11/24/2004 12:41:15 PM PST by grandpiano007 (http://billclintondailydiary.blogspot.com You want fries with that shake?)
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To: weegee

Paging Arlen Specter!


30 posted on 11/24/2004 12:42:40 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: weegee
Another corset-related death.

But, when corsets are outlawed, only outlaws will wear corsets.

31 posted on 11/24/2004 12:42:49 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: grandpiano007

It's just not the way we change Presidents.


32 posted on 11/24/2004 12:42:51 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: tscislaw
Using a bolt action service rifle (non-sporterized except for the scope) I got off three shots at a deer running directly away from me through brush. Of the three shot's, one hit him fatally and one grazed him. The fatal shot hit him an inch to the left and above the anus exiting his chest while another bullet grazed about twelve inches along the length of his upper side/back.

Too bad someone couldn't have video taped me because I'd really like to know just how fast I was working the bolt, reaquiring the target and firing.

With that personal experience in mind, I have no doubt Oswald could have done what he was accused of doing.

33 posted on 11/24/2004 12:42:54 PM PST by fso301
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To: ElkGroveDan
Orville Nix Film


35 posted on 11/24/2004 12:45:10 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: leadpenny

of course.


36 posted on 11/24/2004 12:45:41 PM PST by grandpiano007 (http://billclintondailydiary.blogspot.com You want fries with that shake?)
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To: weegee

A few years back, when John Connally passed away, there was a proposal to perform an autopsy for the purpose of recovering the bullet fragments that remained in his body as a result of the shooting. The intent was to determine if the fragments came from a single bullet, and a single gun, or if there could have been a second shooter. Connally's widow refused to allow the autopsy.


37 posted on 11/24/2004 12:45:56 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: ClearCase_guy
I thought Kennedy moved backwards after he was shot from behind. How did the corset make him do that?

There is no predicting which way a body will move, or even if it will move when hit by a relitively small calaber round like a .30 cal. Especially in the head where nerve tissues are damaged. It's not like the movies where people fly off the ground.

The "Jet of blood" that came out the back of his head is also normal. You can do it by shooting a ripe watermellon and watch as a spray of juice exits the entry point. It's hydraulics in action.

The final head shot by Oswald was from a distance of only 88 yards. I have stood on the 6th floor of that building and looked out. It would have been an easy shot, even for someone who wasn't a Marine Corps marksman.

38 posted on 11/24/2004 12:46:34 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
The surplus Mannlicher-Carcano rifles of the time only had one domestic source of US-made ammunition from an outfit called 'Western Cartridge Company'. It was 6.5x52mm FMJ, a reproduction of the early Italian cartridge with a classical early 20th-Century projectile that was designed to tumble upon impact.

That's the reason for Kennedy's oblong exit wound in the throat, and TX Governor John Connally's oblong entry wound.

Oswald didn't have any choice of ammunition for his mail-order rifle.

39 posted on 11/24/2004 12:46:35 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: weegee

Who really cares about talking about this man? He was flawed and certainly not the King most Democrat Liberals make him out to be. He abused drugs for pain, cavorted on his wife with women, and generally was an unspectacular person. He only seems as such now because the MSM and Democrats claim he's the next best thing to Jesus. I think not. He's better left to whatever history will make of him and not worthy of distracting us from what has to be done to right the course of this country.


40 posted on 11/24/2004 12:47:37 PM PST by Gaffer
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