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Devil in the details: Plot thickens in robbery-SUV killing case
The Trentonian ^ | 11/24/2004 | TRYMAINE D. LEE

Posted on 11/24/2004 6:33:37 AM PST by presidio9

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1 posted on 11/24/2004 6:33:37 AM PST by presidio9
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The alleged gunman who was cut in half...

...police working tirelessly trying to piece the case together.

< rimshot >

2 posted on 11/24/2004 6:38:24 AM PST by zoso82t
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Valdora said the city’s police unions have started a collection fund for O’Neal, under the name of the Bob O’Neal Fund, to help with the repairs to his damaged vehicle and get him back to work.

I'm glad to see they have their priorities in order.

3 posted on 11/24/2004 6:39:54 AM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force, dangit)
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I just hope they catch the SOB that got away, before he tries to take revenge on the O'Neal family.


4 posted on 11/24/2004 6:40:10 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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Change the fact pattern to say O'Neal, in addition to cutting the bad guy in half with his SUV, also mowed down some granny in a crosswalk while on his murderous rampage, and see how you feel about this case.

Or are you of the opinion that the bad guy was the only person likely to be killed here?

O'Neal ought to go to jail for a good long time.


5 posted on 11/24/2004 6:40:48 AM PST by gridlock (The Republican Party is a stupid party no more...)
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No Way, Jose!
6 posted on 11/24/2004 6:40:49 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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If O'Neal comes under the slightest bit of persecution, there ought to be a public outcry so loud it can be heard from coast to coast.

Hell, O'Neal is a National Hero in eyes of law abiding citizens everywhere!


7 posted on 11/24/2004 6:42:06 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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The alleged gunman who was cut in half by an enraged father’s SUV

Wow, that is amazing. This guy trained his SUV to react to his emotions and chase down robbers.
8 posted on 11/24/2004 6:42:44 AM PST by freakboy
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I'm confused here - I'm not saying this guy was wrong to protect his family, but I'm surprised that the police are backing this man. I thought once the immediate danger was over you pretty much lost your ability to "fight back"...... While reading I kept expecting to see where this father who had been robbed was going to be accused of murder............


9 posted on 11/24/2004 6:42:45 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Thank you President Bush, and thank you America!)
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To: gridlock

Ahh. The hypothetical to respond to. Let's stick with the facts.


10 posted on 11/24/2004 6:43:56 AM PST by Lance Romance
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Perp cut in half? He won't have any more crime victims. Good riddance.


11 posted on 11/24/2004 6:44:27 AM PST by RightWingConspirator (Glad that Ted the Boorish Drunk, Hitlery the Witch and John Fonda/Fraud Kerry are not my senators.)
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Change the fact pattern to say O'Neal, in addition to cutting the bad guy in half with his SUV, also mowed down some granny in a crosswalk while on his murderous rampage, and see how you feel about this case.

Or are you of the opinion that the bad guy was the only person likely to be killed here?

O'Neal ought to go to jail for a good long time.


Change your fact pattern to say one of our soldiers in Iraq, in addition to killing terrorists also killed a civilian and let me know how you feel about this war.

Or are you of the opinion that the bad guy was the only person likely to be killed here?
12 posted on 11/24/2004 6:45:21 AM PST by freakboy
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I'm confused here - I'm not saying this guy was wrong to protect his family, but I'm surprised that the police are backing this man.

O'Neal is a son of a cop. They protect their own. 'Nuff said.

13 posted on 11/24/2004 6:45:26 AM PST by gridlock (The Republican Party is a stupid party no more...)
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Every time I come across an article about one of these evil machines engaging in a random act of violence, I am compelled to post it.


14 posted on 11/24/2004 6:48:00 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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"the suspects hopped out and fled, while Alvarez again fired shots at O’Neal and his oncoming SUV."

I'm not so sure the immediate danger was over since he was still being shot at. If someone was shooting at me and I was in a moving car, I just might head for him with the vehicle, and I'm certainly not a bloodthirsty sort.

15 posted on 11/24/2004 6:48:01 AM PST by Bahbah
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O’Neal, the namesake son of a retired Trenton detective, has not been charged in connection with the death of Alvarez, said Casey DeBlasio of the county prosecutor’s office.

I have a feeling that if O'Neal wasn't the son of a cop, he would have been charged. And that is tragic, because all of us have the right to defend our famalies and property.

16 posted on 11/24/2004 6:48:20 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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And a Jersey cop.........


17 posted on 11/24/2004 6:48:23 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Thank you President Bush, and thank you America!)
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The bad guy WAS the only person killed here. What if the dead guy would later have learned the error of his ways and took up the priesthood? What if the dead bad guy had lived to later find a cure for cancer, what if, what if what if...

What ifs on the one hand and facts on the other. I'll take facts.


18 posted on 11/24/2004 6:48:31 AM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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"(O’Neal) stared evil down... it’s in his genes, I can see where he got (his courage),"

genes, or JEANS - It took a pair to do what he did unarmed.


19 posted on 11/24/2004 6:49:26 AM PST by Abathar
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The alleged gunman who was cut in half

So did they send him back to the halfway house?

20 posted on 11/24/2004 6:49:55 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant)
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