Posted on 11/23/2004 8:03:26 PM PST by whodeani
Below is the criminal complaint against Chai Vang. He admits to killing in cold blood.
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/frontpage/pegl.pdf
AirForceMom wrote:
But if you were being shot at would you stop to take a scope off the rifle before shooting back?
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If your target is within the range of the scope yes. Most scopes are easily detatchable for this reason. Your able to aim at close range targets with iron sites. The scope is usally used for targets outside of 100 meters.
I wondered about this myself. I am no hunter but wouldn't it take some time to get a scope off a rifle. Seems more plausible that he took off the scope before someone shot at him. Wouldn't you be a sitting duck in the open while messing around with scope. You think he would have been hit.
I should know that, my husband is a huge military collector.
I wonder if Vang was the only shooter that day.
On Hardball Matthews just fr*gging laughed saying the brawls happen in blue states, and shootings in red states. If I ever met this POS he'd be walking funny for a month.
Although I've never been fired on in a serious combat situation, I have been in places where rounds zinged past me. One time I simply stepped behind a large granite pillar and crouched down while others coraled the shooter (a Turkish guestworker no less). Another time I hopped in my jeep and drove to the other side of the mountain (this was on the Czech border with West Germany during the Russian invasion in 1968.)
When confronted reduce your profile as fast as you can.
Earth to Chris M. Wisconsin is a blue state I am ashamed to say.
I don't think the people shot had enough time to react by even ducking.
There's always time to duck.
Nowhere to hide though, they all were wearing orange.
They might have "missed" because they were warning shots.
Please note that I'm NOT AT ALL defending this guy. Regardless of what happened, he chased people down and he came back to get more. Even if it was self-defense at first, he went way above and beyond the pale.
Says he through his remaining rounds in a swamp........I don't hunt, how much ammo does a hunter take with him on average?
muawiyah wrote:
There's always time to duck.
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Maybe if your on a battle field you moron. But who expects someone to just turn and start shooting you? And don't start with the "they asked for it by calling him names" BS. You need to readjust your line of sight buddy.
Yes, the range might indicate removal of sights. But if he REALLY felt threatened, would he be that cool under fire?
I mean, that's Clint Eastwood in the bar at the end of THE UNFORGIVEN cool.
And if he's that damn cool and collected, why would he then immediately go berserk and start shooting everyone in sight and chasing them down and coming back for more?
This is just a totally bizarre case, given the "facts" we "know".
Why do you keep coming up with this name-calling garbage? Do you have some sort of grudge you need to work out? Everybody's been informed about what the guy said, and so far we don't have anything to counter it.
He is justifying his actions on the basis that these people shot at him.
Regardless of what happened, chasing down fleeing targets and returning to the scene to shoot more people isn't going to go over well even if he was truly antagonized and shot at first and felt the need to defend himself.
No it won't but then you have to consider that those folks were on ATV's & Vang was apparently on foot.
I gave you two examples where I was shot at, and neither were on a battlefield yet I found time to duck.
murdocj wrote:
I mean, that's Clint Eastwood in the bar at the end of THE UNFORGIVEN cool.
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Nail on the head. He didn't feel at all threatened. He probably wasn't even called those names. And from his own admission he was very efficient in his ability to hit his target. This also indicates premeditation. A person who feels threatend would take a couple of cover shots and run, not coldly walk up to an unarmed person and kill shoot them. He's sealed his own fate. Let this guy rot in jail forever.
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