Posted on 11/23/2004 11:17:04 AM PST by whodeani
Suspect says hunters provoked him
Vang says he was surrounded, called names and shot at before shootings
By JOHN DIEDRICH, LEE BERGQUIST and TOM HELD jdiedrich@journalsentinel.com Posted: Nov. 23, 2004
Hayward - The suspect arrested for shooting eight hunters, killing six of them, says he was surrounded by the group, called derogatory racial names and shot at before he opened fire, according to court records released today.
His account differs sharply from details released Monday by the Sheriff's Department and from the accounts from some of the victims, who describe an essentially unprovoked shooting rampage by Chai Soua Vang, a 36-year-old Hmong man from St. Paul, Minn.
Vang, a truck driver, is suspected in the slayings of six hunters and the wounding of two others, according to a probable cause determination signed by Judge Norman L. Yackel here this morning.
Vang is being held on $2.5 million cash bail.
Officials said the Wisconsin Attorney General's Office will prosecute the case, because of its scope and complexity.
Meanwhile, The two survivors continued to improve, officials said.
Terry Willers, the first hunter shot who was hit in the neck, was upgraded from serious to fair at St. Joseph's Hospital in Marshfield today.
Lauren Hesebeck, 48, was released from the hospital Monday night before 9 p.m. He was shot in the shoulder.
Theresa Hesebeck, also the sister of Denny Drew, who died Monday night, said the family was trying to regroup on Tuesday morning and that her husband was recovering at home.
"Your place is at home at a time like this," she said.
The couple have a blended family that includes seven children.
David Drew, a brother of Denny Drew, said Tuesday he was trying to come to grips with the death of his brother and close friends.
A prayer vigil is set for 7 tonight at the Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Haugen, where three of the victims lived.
Complete coverage of this story will appear online later today and in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel in the morning.
I know what a tree stand is I'm a hunter, when he got down we don't know what all took place...
"His culture" is, of course, "your culture". Fellow has been here since he was a child.
You have problems.
Or perhaps you are suggesting that law enforcement is in on this conspiracy you are dreaming up, and hates the Hmong so much that they are framing the guy by picking up the victims' brass?
I understand having the courage of your convictions, but this is silly.
Well... I am just taking a hunters word for it that I heard on the radio, now Vang has said as much in this article... I never hunted in MN im new to this state... All my hunting was in Indiana..
We don't know where their guns were. Do you? This factoid has yet to show up in the press.
www.impactguns.com
This is over the line. You are a very sick individual and are projecting your homicidal fantasies onto this incident.
Seek help now before you kill somebody. I am not kidding.
BTW, the guy had a Wisconsin deer hunting licese. In fact, you wear your license number on your back. His was there. That's how he got IDd and then caught by other hunters.
I know the Army did not lose the Vietnam war.
I was being ironic.
If someone was shooting at you wouldn't shoot back?
I wont read the whole thread but I have to ask. Did someone throw a cup of beer at him? That is total disrespect and if you are a minority you have the right to do almost anything if a white person calls you a name, calls your mom a name, calls your homies a name, throws a cup of beer on you, looks at you without averting their eyes or stops you from commiting a crime that noone else will commit.
It is the landowner's responsibility to both post and fence his property to deter purposeful entry by others.
Now, let me ask you, where is the 12 foot high fence around the place to keep people from just wondering in?
Bet it's not there. Bet someone likes deer to wonder in from the surrounding publicly owned game areas.
ROFL!
I concur. The Hmong have been accepted quite well near my area. There are some who are active in gangs, but far fewer than other ethnic groups. The older Hmong still follow a tribal structure in which the elders are respected and honored. They are generally quite different from ethnic Vietnamese, who were not well received in my area (they all moved out of the area).
well if you don't know... most hunters use bolt action rifles... thus, it will not eject a round.. and it will hold the empty ihn the rifle... if the law did not check the rifle they would have never found the empty...
You think the victims "policed up" the area while a homicidal maniac was laying down a barrage?
Get real.
As far as checking their gun to see if they were fired, I'll bet you a case of "uncle Jack's" finest that I can find 100,000 guns that have been "recently fired" on opening day in Wisconsin.
Regards,
GtG
Hmong - way high up on the list of "cultures that need to buy a vowel".
IF someone shoots at me i'm going to protect myself... If someone breaks into my house I will kill them... simple...
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