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Knew it would come- I don't believe this guy.
1 posted on 11/23/2004 11:06:29 AM PST by mafree
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The race card beats a royal flush.


58 posted on 11/23/2004 12:03:07 PM PST by uncitizen
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It is of little consequence to his case.

Self defense cannot explain the wanton killing of so many.

His best and only defense may be insanity.

This is the craziest killings I have seen in a while, or at least since that Texas woman drowned all her children.

He will never see the light of freedom again, in any case, since he probably was quite sane, but totally twisted. He is a Charles Manson type no doubt. Despicable and totally off the wall.

68 posted on 11/23/2004 12:11:14 PM PST by Cold Heat (There is more to do! "Mr. Kerry, about that Navy discharge?")
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If they surrounded him as he says, I doubt they would have missed.


75 posted on 11/23/2004 12:22:44 PM PST by conservativebabe
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Six shooters all surrounded him but missed, and he was then able to kill all 6. NOT.


84 posted on 11/23/2004 1:06:59 PM PST by ez (Let the tolerant tolerate my intolerance!)
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How do you believe a deer hunter that uses camouflage?
I think he was hunting hunters...
87 posted on 11/23/2004 1:48:54 PM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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I have to wonder why out of 8 or more hunters , only one had a rifle ? Those first upon the scene I could understand , but those that responded to a radio call for help? Help should mean "bring your guns!!!" Sad to see the state of hunting sink to such a depth . Perhaps the laws can be modified so that hunters can carry their primary rifle and also sling a .45 under their arm as back-up? One never knows where a psycho can pop up these days , might as well be prepared .
88 posted on 11/23/2004 1:53:18 PM PST by injin
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Do Hmong go "amok?"


96 posted on 11/23/2004 2:16:23 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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Bull Shiite

I have lived around Hmongs of his variety since they first came here in the late 70s

They have been taught well by the liberal social workers...on how to beat the white man's system...steal his tax money and spit on him for his stupidity

Play the race card?...its the one truly American thing they are really good at...WI is one big Hmong vending machine as are the US taxpayers are their cash cows

Every hear of the Refugee Resettlement fund?...It was spitting out $150,000 plus per family...in addition are low to no interest loans for businesses, homes, cars you name it...no collateral no money down and low low payments...miss a payment or two no problem...default on the loan disqualifies you for another...no way...and you are eligible to bring more family members here from Laos or Thailand...

They come to Central WI by the plane load...no quarantine...no medical work....they have the right to spread any diseases they have...you have the right to remain silent.



The second and third generation have become cops and social workers and are now learning how to really work the system...and from the inside as well as the outside...

Years back the first Hmong cop they hired had been convicted of rape...but this was waved...as it was considered a cultural heritage issue...and part of the marriage ceremony..even though he didn't marry the girl that was raped...it was unbelievable how the Chief of Police and the mayor sold this individual to the public..I wonder who was pulling their strings...

Social Services has been inundated with rape, incest, battery cases, especially spouse abuse..the hardest part is keeping up with the cover up...

Naturally the local govt and the media play a great part in that...

Those who once helped us fight Vietnamese communism have been converted to the US domestic brand...as it pays so well....

The public schools have been turned into gang bangers wreck rooms...and they cant be touched...they are protected minorities...one local Leo told me...that they were told to not arrest any of them unless they were committing a felony..

The smart folks who can HOME SCHOOL

When the Hmong community in Wausau, WI was growing opium on their collective farm land (a few hundred yards from the police firing range) the Chief of Police said he couldn't figure out who to arrest because "There were too many of them"...More likely the word came down from DC ...leave them alone..

The Hmong gangs are involved in drugs prostitution and violent crime ( I have seen what they do to their own little girls 13 and 14 yr olds a friend owns a motel and the bangers had abandoned a couple of youngsters in one of his rooms naked and in drug induced comas..)...they run their operations from Minneapolis St. Paul through Eau Clair , Wausau, over to Green Bay and throughout the Fox Valley

They have little if any respect for our game laws or private property and there have been many incidents were large groups of them just enter peoples property and start killing animals
and we were advised not to get in their way...just call the cops...

The authorities are called..but they must call a "mandatory' interpretor who imo is VERY selective about what he 'interprets' as he is one of them....

I have yet heard of one Hmong who arrested for trespassing let alone went to jail...when predators find out they can do what ever they want with little if any consequences...it is like ringing the dinner bell

Locals who have complained about their property broken into and their possessions stolen have been told that there really isn't anything the law can do for them...they were pretty much on their own but warned not to take the law into their own hands...as these are property crimes and not big concern for leos...

One of our best local restaurants used to have a trout pond in front of the place once they Hmongs moved in..his pond was emptied faster than he could replace the fish...he had to give up and finally filled it in..

No one arrested...you are on your own....but don't hurt one...or you are in trouble

The US govt brought over an intact ARMY from Laos...an Army of opium growers and marketers and dumped them on US taxpayers...and Army of aliens who had no idea how to behave in America and not much of an interest in learning what is or is not appropriate behavior
Once upon a time they may have been US allies...but from my experience this is no longer the case...

These are organized criminals not refugees in the classic sense...my guess is this scum bag will be excoriated by a few of the elders for show...pretty much like the so called 'moderate' Muslims do...

The rank and file imo will consider him a real warrior having killed 6 of their armed enemies...(more like he killed 6 of their cash cows)

A few of the elders will be trotted out to disown Vang...and quiet down the rhetoric and head off any criticism of the authorities...

We can all thank the liberals as this whole mess is pretty much the work of the Democrats and their friends

..especially Dave Obey...I like to think Mel Laird would never have done this to Central WI...but its pretty obvious Dave Obey doesn't give a rip what he does to the tax payers as long as those who write the checks get their hands on that refugee resettlement money...

The local Central WI papers are owned and controlled by Gannet news service a notoriously left wing liberal rag that deliberately downplays crimes by Hmongs and other minorities while at the same time amplifying those of whites...especially crimes against any of their minority pets.

This crime will not be prosecuted as a hate crime but I can guarantee the locals city mothers will be working over time trying to convince the locals of the Hmongs innocence and their great contributions to the community blah blah blah...they do this kind of damage control every time their little pets bite any of the locals.

Can someone make the case for the Hmongs doing better socially then they did when they first came here...frankly only superficially...not too mention the just keep coming from Laos and so a whole new batch has to be trained up...and of course excused for their crimes as they cant/wont be held responsible by the local government...

The locals always expected to 'suck it up' and pay for it without complaining....

Which they pretty much do

Not that anyone who could do something...actually would

The locals do not get a voice in the issue and anyone who protests too much or points out the truth will be ganged up on and painted as a racists....its their libs MO in these matters..

A few summers back one of the head Hmong honchos threatened to burn the town down if the Hmongs were not granted status as Vietnam Veterans and began to get disability pensions...It wasn't enough for them to be draining state welfare and Social Security disability (oh yes many of them are on Social Security disability...one of the first things they qualify for once they get here...there is a whole social work dept dedicated to helping them qualify for this..) they wanted to get their fingers in the Veterans Administration pie as well...

When they were denied this they got pretty angry and threatened...the local news papers and TV just let this whole threat go...as did law enforcement...

Of course the liberal Marxist press is always ready to excoriate anyone who tried to shine light on these criminals and their crimes or their threats

Of course if you are an American living on one of the border towns adjacent to Mexico or a large city with a urban ghetto.. I guess this kind of thing is old hat...and the death toll in this incident is probably typical of a 72 hr. period or less..

For those of us in Central WI who have witnessed the quality of life of our hometowns deteriorate over the last twenty years...though not entirely surprising such deaths are shocking..and anger provoking..

IMO Though truthfully I can't see the Dems or Repubs coming to the rescue here or down on the Mexican borders...after all it's the politicians who are the problem almost as much as their so called refugees and illegal aliens

IMO

98 posted on 11/23/2004 2:19:40 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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sicko. This wacky behavior by some hunters makes it hard for me to even want to go out in the woods. I haven't picked up my hang-on stands from two years ago yet. After encountering too much irritating behavior from other hunters (and that's just *irritating* behavior, not necessarily dangerous behavior) I just could hardly care less.


99 posted on 11/23/2004 2:21:49 PM PST by Terriergal ("Woe to you...Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!"Matthew 23:23a,24)
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116 posted on 11/23/2004 3:03:54 PM PST by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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I believe it. I think they did call him a racial name. But that would not be enough to kill them.
Same thing that happened at the basketball brawl. When the white guy threw that beer it was like an insult that was ten times greater than anyone else throwing it.


120 posted on 11/23/2004 3:12:21 PM PST by rave123
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Don't believe it either. How come he was chasing people and shooting them in the back a bunch of times. It was not self defense. This guy is a sicko and needs to die a slow death. It happened in a Blue state too.


130 posted on 11/23/2004 3:41:43 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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Wow, as if we could not have guessed it would come to this.


136 posted on 11/23/2004 5:21:30 PM PST by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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Regardless of what the victims may or may not have said to him, I am inclined to not believe that he was shot at first or even at all. All these people with scoped deer rifles confronted a guy with an SKS that starts to shoot at them and nobody was able to put him down or even wound him? That dog don't hunt.


137 posted on 11/23/2004 5:26:22 PM PST by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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Exactly as expected.


142 posted on 11/23/2004 6:32:30 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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