Posted on 11/23/2004 11:06:28 AM PST by mafree
According to WTMJ-Am radio news, the hunter accused of killing six hunters is now claiming he was shot at first. He is saying he left property the first time he was asked and the other hunters followed him, surrounded him, called him racial and other names, and shot at him first.
"Thats scary."
Yup. Took me a while for my heart to slow down after I beat feet out of there. I don't think he meant to hit me...just to warn me, but he came awfully close.
After seeing what poor shots a lot of these weekend hunters are, he could have hit me even if he wasn't trying.
I finally stopped hunting on opening weekend altogether. Just to many wackos out there. I wait a while until everyone forgets it's hunting season, then go out and get one of the bucks the once-a-year hunters missed, and they miss most of them. [grin]
This is not the case in Wisconsin....if a land-owner contacts the DNR about a trespasser, they are told that wardens are too busy and that the land-owner should contact the county sherifs department.......these guys may get there the same day.....but don't count on it!
Six shooters all surrounded him but missed, and he was then able to kill all 6. NOT.
there was one gun because the first hunter was alone heading back to camp when he saw Vang and radioed to the others that he was going to ask this man to leave and the others came from the cabin (unarmed) to see what was going on when Vang opened fire on the group
I'm surprised they set bail today (2.5 million). Police in St. Paul said there had been two domestic violence calls to his home in the past year -- both were resolved without incident.
They weren't actually hunting at the time. The rest of their guns were probably in the cabin or their cars.
Have to wait and see on this one. He could be telling the truth and just got the better of these people or they did nothing and he just went off. No one knows yet.
They probably assumed that it was an accidental shooting. Especially if all he said was, "Help, help, I've been shot".
I would not make such an assumption, living in California, but people in "nicer" parts of the country might.
Maybe they were all bowhunters? Maybe they only had one gun in camp?
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Do Hmong go "amok?"
you pinged me to a thread where I already was...No big deal, just a minor oversight.
When the Hmong community in Wausau, WI was growing opium on their collective farm land (a few hundred yards from the police firing range) the Chief of Police said he couldn't figure out who to arrest because "There were too many of them"...More likely the word came down from DC ...leave them alone..
The Hmong gangs are involved in drugs prostitution and violent crime ( I have seen what they do to their own little girls 13 and 14 yr olds a friend owns a motel and the bangers had abandoned a couple of youngsters in one of his rooms naked and in drug induced comas..)...they run their operations from Minneapolis St. Paul through Eau Clair , Wausau, over to Green Bay and throughout the Fox Valley
They have little if any respect for our game laws or private property and there have been many incidents were large groups of them just enter peoples property and start killing animals
and we were advised not to get in their way...just call the cops...
The authorities are called..but they must call a "mandatory' interpretor who imo is VERY selective about what he 'interprets' as he is one of them....
I have yet heard of one Hmong who arrested for trespassing let alone went to jail...when predators find out they can do what ever they want with little if any consequences...it is like ringing the dinner bell
Locals who have complained about their property broken into and their possessions stolen have been told that there really isn't anything the law can do for them...they were pretty much on their own but warned not to take the law into their own hands...as these are property crimes and not big concern for leos...
One of our best local restaurants used to have a trout pond in front of the place once they Hmongs moved in..his pond was emptied faster than he could replace the fish...he had to give up and finally filled it in..
No one arrested...you are on your own....but don't hurt one...or you are in trouble
The US govt brought over an intact ARMY from Laos...an Army of opium growers and marketers and dumped them on US taxpayers...and Army of aliens who had no idea how to behave in America and not much of an interest in learning what is or is not appropriate behavior
Once upon a time they may have been US allies...but from my experience this is no longer the case...
These are organized criminals not refugees in the classic sense...my guess is this scum bag will be excoriated by a few of the elders for show...pretty much like the so called 'moderate' Muslims do...
The rank and file imo will consider him a real warrior having killed 6 of their armed enemies...(more like he killed 6 of their cash cows)
A few of the elders will be trotted out to disown Vang...and quiet down the rhetoric and head off any criticism of the authorities...
We can all thank the liberals as this whole mess is pretty much the work of the Democrats and their friends
..especially Dave Obey...I like to think Mel Laird would never have done this to Central WI...but its pretty obvious Dave Obey doesn't give a rip what he does to the tax payers as long as those who write the checks get their hands on that refugee resettlement money...
The local Central WI papers are owned and controlled by Gannet news service a notoriously left wing liberal rag that deliberately downplays crimes by Hmongs and other minorities while at the same time amplifying those of whites...especially crimes against any of their minority pets.
This crime will not be prosecuted as a hate crime but I can guarantee the locals city mothers will be working over time trying to convince the locals of the Hmongs innocence and their great contributions to the community blah blah blah...they do this kind of damage control every time their little pets bite any of the locals.
Can someone make the case for the Hmongs doing better socially then they did when they first came here...frankly only superficially...not too mention the just keep coming from Laos and so a whole new batch has to be trained up...and of course excused for their crimes as they cant/wont be held responsible by the local government...
The locals always expected to 'suck it up' and pay for it without complaining....
Which they pretty much do
Not that anyone who could do something...actually would
The locals do not get a voice in the issue and anyone who protests too much or points out the truth will be ganged up on and painted as a racists....its their libs MO in these matters..
A few summers back one of the head Hmong honchos threatened to burn the town down if the Hmongs were not granted status as Vietnam Veterans and began to get disability pensions...It wasn't enough for them to be draining state welfare and Social Security disability (oh yes many of them are on Social Security disability...one of the first things they qualify for once they get here...there is a whole social work dept dedicated to helping them qualify for this..) they wanted to get their fingers in the Veterans Administration pie as well...
When they were denied this they got pretty angry and threatened...the local news papers and TV just let this whole threat go...as did law enforcement...
Of course the liberal Marxist press is always ready to excoriate anyone who tried to shine light on these criminals and their crimes or their threats
Of course if you are an American living on one of the border towns adjacent to Mexico or a large city with a urban ghetto.. I guess this kind of thing is old hat...and the death toll in this incident is probably typical of a 72 hr. period or less..
For those of us in Central WI who have witnessed the quality of life of our hometowns deteriorate over the last twenty years...though not entirely surprising such deaths are shocking..and anger provoking..
IMO Though truthfully I can't see the Dems or Repubs coming to the rescue here or down on the Mexican borders...after all it's the politicians who are the problem almost as much as their so called refugees and illegal aliens
IMO
sicko. This wacky behavior by some hunters makes it hard for me to even want to go out in the woods. I haven't picked up my hang-on stands from two years ago yet. After encountering too much irritating behavior from other hunters (and that's just *irritating* behavior, not necessarily dangerous behavior) I just could hardly care less.
Seems odd that all the casualties were on the "all white" side.
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