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Accused Shooter Claiming Self- Defense, Playing Race Card (WI Hunter Massacre)
WTMJ-AM Radio | 11/23/04 | WTMJ Radio News

Posted on 11/23/2004 11:06:28 AM PST by mafree

According to WTMJ-Am radio news, the hunter accused of killing six hunters is now claiming he was shot at first. He is saying he left property the first time he was asked and the other hunters followed him, surrounded him, called him racial and other names, and shot at him first.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: deerhuntingshooting; deerstand; hmong; hunter; hunting; racecard; vang; wihunters; wisconsin
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Knew it would come- I don't believe this guy.
1 posted on 11/23/2004 11:06:29 AM PST by mafree
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Never know .. he apparently is a father of some 6 kids and being born in Michigan, I know what some of these upper 'all white' states think of 'foreigners' ... wouldn't be surprised in the least. Evidence would be the problem though since the two survivors will obviously not be on his side.


2 posted on 11/23/2004 11:08:21 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: mafree

I can wait until all the info is out on this.


3 posted on 11/23/2004 11:09:16 AM PST by WarPaint (Nuke mecca. Be done with it.)
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To: mafree
Easily disputed when they test the only gun the victims had with them.
Typical BS, I'm surprised it took this long.
4 posted on 11/23/2004 11:09:56 AM PST by AirForceMom (I have post-election elation syndrome)
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To: AgThorn

great. Just like the lib caller on talk radio who blamed the people who were shot. To paraphrase, he said "I know how white people are, and they probably made racial comments that caused him to start shooting".


5 posted on 11/23/2004 11:10:43 AM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: mafree

Hank Hill: What are you, Chinese of Japanese?

Kuong: Laosion

(pause)

Hank Hill: So are you Chinese of Japanese?


6 posted on 11/23/2004 11:11:26 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: AgThorn

You're right that there's an outside chance his side of the story has merit but on the whole, I won't believe him until more comes out about it.


7 posted on 11/23/2004 11:11:32 AM PST by mafree
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Wow....this doesn't surprise me. The "assault weapon" hype didn't stick. So they're spinning up the racism angle. The're so predictable.


8 posted on 11/23/2004 11:12:27 AM PST by hiredhand ( "Pudge the Indestructible Kitty" lives at - http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: flashbunny

I don't know about any "lib caller", as I am just commenting on what he is now claiming as his defense.


9 posted on 11/23/2004 11:12:48 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: WarPaint
I can wait until all the info is out on this.

More will come out- this is what he's telling the cops so far and the news outlet is running with that. I wouldn't post it unless I heard it from a news source.

10 posted on 11/23/2004 11:12:51 AM PST by mafree
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His comments indicate he has had time to talk with his court appointed attorney.


11 posted on 11/23/2004 11:14:08 AM PST by RicocheT
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hang the worthless bastard.


12 posted on 11/23/2004 11:14:14 AM PST by pissant
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To: mafree

I suppose it's possible. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Problem is, the folks that he's talking about are dead, or at least most of 'em are. So we may just have Vang's word for it.

I've heard some pretty nasty comments about Hmongs around St. Paul, so it's not out of the realm of possibility, I suppose.


13 posted on 11/23/2004 11:17:22 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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What a load of bullcrap!

That doesn't explain the trail of bodies by any stretch of the imagination!

hang that scum high!

14 posted on 11/23/2004 11:19:25 AM PST by NoClones
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hang the worthless bastard.

Well...I don't think we'll have to. He isn't exactly going to be able to live where he's at after this. If he EVER gets out of jail, he'll have to move or else he'll have an "accident". Probably a hunting "accident".....a lot like the one he dished out!
15 posted on 11/23/2004 11:20:43 AM PST by hiredhand ( "Pudge the Indestructible Kitty" lives at - http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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I'd never for a second say that these victims were beyond calling someone racial or other names, especially someone trespassing on their property. I just doubt that whatever they did was a sufficient excuse for Vang to shoot them.


16 posted on 11/23/2004 11:21:07 AM PST by mafree
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Not for nothing, honey, but self-defense may explain one guy dead, not 5 and three seriously injured.

That's like saying a guy committed suicide by beating himself to death.

sheesh.

17 posted on 11/23/2004 11:22:07 AM PST by sandalwood (Vote Pat Toomey for Governor)
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He's lying. If that was the case there wouldn't have been 6 of them dead. He may have gotten two before they got him but he wouldn't have gotten all 6.

Hang him.


18 posted on 11/23/2004 11:23:54 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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He might have shot the first two if they had shot at them but eight??? That doesn't pass the smell test. I have heard of some people shooting over someones head to make a point. If that was the case he had a right to get the first two.

I was deathly afraid one morning in a duck blind that something very bad was going down. We were in a blind my friend had built on public land. Just because you built it it is still first come first serve on public land. We got in the blind and someone had been there the previous day and left their heater. Well they showed up and tried to throw us out of the blind. I thought it was going to come to gunplay and felt awful lonely out there. Some people don't need to have guns. It was plain scary sitting there "on go" praying that they just ran their mouths about shooting and didn't try to go for their guns. They had me scared enough to shoot.

19 posted on 11/23/2004 11:24:28 AM PST by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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according to the local news there was only one gun amongst all eight "White people" - if they want to make it about race, fine...

Also according to local news -the bodies were spread out in a roughly 100 yard area. So, if this was self defense -The Hmong must have shot the white guy with the gun - who then (as he's falling dead) throws it to his white guy budy - who then shoots at this Hmong (it's about race remember) who then shoots that white guy - who then throws the gun to his other white guy buddy...

give me a damn break. (nothing personal Mineral Man)


20 posted on 11/23/2004 11:24:58 AM PST by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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