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'It makes no sense'-As sixth hunter dies, sheriff offers details ...
pioneer press ^ | 11-23-04 | TIM NELSON and KEVIN HARTER

Posted on 11/23/2004 7:06:28 AM PST by Rakkasan1

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To: Baynative

Don't worry they usually end up shooting each other or die of heart attacks.


41 posted on 11/23/2004 7:52:52 AM PST by angcat
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To: ArrogantBustard

"Like, maybe six consecutive life sentences worth of time."

More like one life sentence ended abruptly with a lethal injection - lead would be suitable, injected by a firing squad...


42 posted on 11/23/2004 7:52:57 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Ciexyz

I grew up on a farm and when we had to vacate hunters it was never without a gun in hand. You never knew if it
was some wacko.
Never had a problem other than a veiled threat about I should be wearing orange (on my own land) or I could get shot.
Btw, the violators were always 50-something white guys.


43 posted on 11/23/2004 7:52:57 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece: Hope IS on the way...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
No, he was an ethnic minority (Hmong tribesman from Laos imported by the thousands to collect welfare) and therefore entitled to protection from the press.

Also – according to ABC – a US Army veteran who has lived here for over twenty years.

44 posted on 11/23/2004 7:56:59 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Gingersnap

they got a call on the radio that he'd been shot. that doesn't tell them he was intentionally shot. my first impression was that they assumed it was an accident.that would normally be a safe assumption. (when you hear hoof
beats, you assume horses, not zebras.)


45 posted on 11/23/2004 7:57:09 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece: Hope IS on the way...)
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To: tx_eggman
"Nope, actually here as refugees after being trained by the US to fight communists in Laos during the Vietnam war. They fought bravely and then were left in a lurch when the lefties here forced us to cut and run."

The Hmong are essentially Laotian hillbillies. They are very 'tribal' and like other mountain people tend to carry on feuds for generations. Think Laotian Hatfields and McCoys and thats the Hmong.
46 posted on 11/23/2004 7:59:32 AM PST by monday
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To: Ladysmith

fyi


47 posted on 11/23/2004 8:06:45 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Gingersnap
In Colorado it's fairly common for hunters to wear a pistol around camp. Mountain lions, rattlers, bears, etc. are problems in some areas. Not all hunters do this by any means but it's common. Is this just a regional thing? Any local FReepers care to comment?

When I hunt, I alway have a small pistol in my pocket. (a small Hungarian made Walther PPK copy that shoots 9MM Makarov) We have had problems with coyotes and feral dogs. We also have come up upon a group of people stealing our tree stands.

Most of the other hunters in my camp do not carry a side arm (I live in the deep deep South).

I subscribe to the Boy Scout motto: Be Prepared.

48 posted on 11/23/2004 8:07:03 AM PST by A. Patriot
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To: Gingersnap
"It seems like none of the victims were armed and I find this a little odd."

More than a little odd. I never go anywhere without my rifle when hunting simply because if you do thats when you see the dear. Even stranger though, if a buddy radioed me saying he had been shot, no way would I go fetch him without a rifle.

I am guessing that their rifles were in cases on the ATV's but they were shot before they had a chance to take them out. They probably rushed in without thinking.
49 posted on 11/23/2004 8:12:57 AM PST by monday
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To: Judith Anne

Local radio reports are he won't even admit to it, and LEO are puzzled over what caused it.


50 posted on 11/23/2004 8:13:04 AM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: Slainte

Then this article is geared towards "It makes no sense" and is a biased piece of trash.

If the man has a history of domestic violence, that information is relevant to the story.

Instead, this story is trying to create the impression this is an isolated incident, started by someone with an evil assault rifle and a confrontation between gun nuts where words may or may not have been exchanged.

I notice the part "no one knows what words may have been exchanged" is a blatant attempt at blaming the victim, because obviously a white man with a gun=racist=hate speech, which obviously incited the perpetrator.


51 posted on 11/23/2004 8:14:01 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: Iowa Granny

Whew. You just know what the tension will be like from here on anytime a Hmong hunter is in the area.


52 posted on 11/23/2004 8:17:14 AM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: monday

I'm sure they thought it was a hunting accident. Who would ever concieve of being shot by another hunter on purpose?


53 posted on 11/23/2004 8:26:32 AM PST by A. Patriot
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To: Ladysmith

I read that he had gotten down, was walking away, then turned and started firing.

I wonder if one of the victims shot up in the air as the Hmong was leaving, to punctuate his "get out of my tree stand" and the Hmong thought he was being attacked.

I fully expect a flame for that thought...but it would explain it. NOT justify it, no way.


54 posted on 11/23/2004 8:29:50 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: uncitizen
Oh OK. So this was a post-traumatic stress disorder "flashback" episode then? Ooh good one. I'm sure the media will run with that.

You're saying this based on what in my post?

Check again, I said he needs to be turned into fertilizer as soon as possible

I'm not condoning what happened, I was taking issue with the comment that the Hmong refugees were "imported by the thousands to collect welfare."

55 posted on 11/23/2004 8:39:09 AM PST by tx_eggman ("All I need to know about Islam I learned on 09/11/01" - Crawdad)
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To: tx_eggman

i may have mistook your meaning. i apologize for that. i wouldn't be surprised if the media used the "PTSD flashback" thing tho. They need something just like this to hang their hat on.


56 posted on 11/23/2004 8:43:56 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: monday
The Hmong are essentially Laotian hillbillies

I did not know that.

My bad, absolutely my bad. Given this new information I now see that the United States would have been justified in using them for our purposes in SE Asia and then abandoning them to be slaughtered by the communists.

It's all clear to me now.

57 posted on 11/23/2004 8:44:13 AM PST by tx_eggman ("All I need to know about Islam I learned on 09/11/01" - Crawdad)
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To: claudiustg
Californians might as well start kissing their SKS's goodbye. I feel a landmark gun confiscation coming on.

It's a good thing for the rest of us that Kerry lost.

58 posted on 11/23/2004 8:49:32 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: claudiustg
I feel a landmark gun confiscation coming on.

Republicans control the Presidency, House, and Senate. I doubt that any landmark gun confiscation is going to take place nation-wide. Some of the leftist blue states may pass gun-grabbing laws though.

59 posted on 11/23/2004 8:52:27 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: Rakkasan1

From The Most Dangerous Game, by Richard Connell



The general smiled the quiet smile of one who has faced an obstacle and surmounted it with success. "I had to invent a new animal to hunt," he said.

"A new animal? You're joking." "Not at all," said the general. "I never joke about hunting. I needed a new animal. I found one. So I bought this island built this house, and here I do my hunting. The island is perfect for my purposes--there are jungles with a maze of traits in them, hills, swamps--"

"But the animal, General Zaroff?"

"Oh," said the general, "it supplies me with the most exciting hunting in the world. No other hunting compares with it for an instant. Every day I hunt, and I never grow bored now, for I have a quarry with which I can match my wits."

Rainsford's bewilderment showed in his face.

"I wanted the ideal animal to hunt," explained the general. "So I said, `What are the attributes of an ideal quarry?' And the answer was, of course, `It must have courage, cunning, and, above all, it must be able to reason."'

"But no animal can reason," objected Rainsford.

"My dear fellow," said the general, "there is one that can."

"But you can't mean--" gasped Rainsford.

"And why not?"

"I can't believe you are serious, General Zaroff. This is a grisly joke."

"Why should I not be serious? I am speaking of hunting."

"Hunting? Great Guns, General Zaroff, what you speak of is murder."

The general laughed with entire good nature. He regarded Rainsford quizzically. "I refuse to believe that so modern and civilized a young man as you seem to be harbors romantic ideas about the value of human life.


60 posted on 11/23/2004 9:05:17 AM PST by A. Patriot
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