Now, imagine what the reaction would have been had it been the other way around. Suppose a white hillbilly NRA member from Idaho had shot between five or ten Asians.... 
Posted on 11/23/2004 7:02:06 AM PST by Rakkasan1
Hunting is a tradition many Hmong have continued to pursue since resettling here from Laos, though not always smoothly.
Some Hmong hunters in the Twin Cities say they have been targets of harassment and intimidation. Some of their white counterparts complain that the former refugees, used to unregulated hunting in their homeland, sometimes fail to comply with modern hunting regulations and wildlife management practices.
"A lot of these hunters are people who have a strong tradition in hunting," said Hmong activist Michael Yang of St. Paul, who joined friends looking for deer on his first hunting trip a few weeks ago. "That was one of the bases of survival back in the old days. You go out there in your farm fields and hunt what you need."
Hunters of all kinds expressed shock Sunday at the arrest of Chai Vang of St. Paul in shootings that killed five people and injured three during a dispute over a deer stand in western Wisconsin. The natural resources departments in Minnesota and Wisconsin, home to more than 75,000 Hmong counted in the 2000 census, have both hired Hmong conservation officers to help bridge the gap between Hmong hunting traditions and today's regulations.
(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...
Remember the DC snipe case? The Mediots in the MSM were almost in tears that it was not an eeeevil white man.
The Mediots don't want to say anything to offend immigrants, immigration reform, or any asian.
Now, imagine what the reaction would have been had it been the other way around. Suppose a white hillbilly NRA member from Idaho had shot between five or ten Asians....
Another article said this guy was 36 years old. That would mean that he was born in 1968. I assume his family left after or during the war in the early 1970's. He would have been a toddler or small child when he left Cambodia.
Since he grew up in the USA, I don't see how he could have absorbed the hunting culture of his own country.
I think he is just another mentally disturbed individual. Has anyone checked to see if he was on Prozac or other psychotropic medication? Most of the mass killer gunman over the last 2 decades have been on some type of medication.
The problem was that Lutheran Services brought them to the US and essentially dumped them. When the men, who all lived in one house, insisted on cars (after LS spent extra on getting them a house on a bus line), LS bought them cars without any thought as to whether they could drive. The Hmong would take an interpreter who knew the answers to the driving test with them to the DMV so they were guaranteed to pass the written test.
One thing that completely flummoxed them was the idea that you couldn't drink and drive. They were getting busted constantly and LS was sending lawyers to get them out of the ticket.
There were 10 men in the house, 14 cars in the backyard and only one official driver. At no point did LS ever think to investigate. It was insane.
They did a piece about this on the news. A very common practice. The interpreters get paid for passing the test for them. Scary huh?
Liberal "compassion" gone wild.
Exactly. There was no compassion for the Hmong. They were left hung out to dry.
Agreed that he needs to get the death penalty, although I think they're just stating a fact here.
The Hmong have been known to hunt in Central Park and so forth. That's a fact. I don't know why the fact that there is a collusion of cultures (the Hmong have probably had more difficulty assimilating than any other culture in recent times) contradicts with the fact that this guy is a mass-murderer, any more than the fact that my coffee cup is attracted by gravity toward the earth contradicts with the fact that I have two dogs.
But maybe that's just me.
Laos is still a very brutal totalitarian state. They should not be sent back.
What is your problem?
These are two separate issues.
1. Disrespect of hunting and trespassing laws.
2. Cold-blooded murder of six people.
I agree with you that #1 should be dealt with, but it's NOT THE IMPORTANT ISSUE here. #2 is the issue. Don't use #2 as an excuse to crack down on #1.
You don't need to be Hmong to do that... Ever been to Alabama? Georgia? Tennessee? ....
There would have been many, many stories. Probably including one about the "cultural tensions" between the two groups.
It's just a story from a newsperson who's expected to come up with them. No big deal.
From The Most Dangerous Game, by The Most Dangerous Game
by Richard Connell
The general smiled the quiet smile of one who has faced an obstacle and surmounted it with success. "I had to invent a new animal to hunt," he said.
"A new animal? You're joking." "Not at all," said the general. "I never joke about hunting. I needed a new animal. I found one. So I bought this island built this house, and here I do my hunting. The island is perfect for my purposes--there are jungles with a maze of traits in them, hills, swamps--"
"But the animal, General Zaroff?"
"Oh," said the general, "it supplies me with the most exciting hunting in the world. No other hunting compares with it for an instant. Every day I hunt, and I never grow bored now, for I have a quarry with which I can match my wits."
Rainsford's bewilderment showed in his face.
"I wanted the ideal animal to hunt," explained the general. "So I said, `What are the attributes of an ideal quarry?' And the answer was, of course, `It must have courage, cunning, and, above all, it must be able to reason."'
"But no animal can reason," objected Rainsford.
"My dear fellow," said the general, "there is one that can."
"But you can't mean--" gasped Rainsford.
"And why not?"
"I can't believe you are serious, General Zaroff. This is a grisly joke."
"Why should I not be serious? I am speaking of hunting."
"Hunting? Great Guns, General Zaroff, what you speak of is murder."
The general laughed with entire good nature. He regarded Rainsford quizzically. "I refuse to believe that so modern and civilized a young man as you seem to be harbors romantic ideas about the value of human life.
It's actually harder to spot paranoid schizophrenic or psychotic tendencies among foreigners immersed in rarer foreign languages and exotic customs. The craziness is often just shrugged off as part of a "different culture." And the liberal trend is to be "tolerant" of this.
If any of us had seen, say, Mohammed Atta walking down the street before 9/11 what would really reveal that this was a raving homicidal lunatic and not just another "weird" foreigner acting a little "oddly"?
No, but Bush's culture of diversity and non-existant immigration dept might be contributing.
If I read the news correctly, the killer was trespassing on private property at the time he opened fire. Seems to me cold-blooded murder wouldn't have taken place if he'd been on public, not private, land, as the law dictates.
So from the specific (wanton murder) one can progress to the general. I don't know the full background of this particular case: there's probably a lot about it yet to be revealed. But the Hmong and certain other groups were plucked from their native homes for political reasons and dumped in selected spots around the U.S. where they remain in tight-knit communities refusing to assimilate. A recurring problem seems to be their general refusal to respect American laws and customs. Maybe curing that problem might help cure the others. Simple enough?
When people are allowed to disregard laws for a period of time, they think they have a 'right' to disregard said laws. We all know how 'the man' oppresses minorities. The media and politicians tell us this every chance they get. When they are called on these transgressions they fight back to protect their 'rights' by any means necessary.
Sound familiar?
I'm sure there's truth to that, but:
I don't know if we would have noticed much in Atta's behavior anyway. I don't think those guys were crazy in the "I have to take this bucket of cheese to Washington DC before the aliens pick beat me to it"-type way. They blended in quite well. Don't forget: the enemy is far from stupid. They knew who to send on such missions.
And who saw those in Gacy or Dahmer? If anything, the Hmong community would be far tighter and more apt to notice such things within among each other. I sure as hell don't watch other white people, or anyone else outside of my immediate circle. Do you?
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