Posted on 11/23/2004 7:02:06 AM PST by Rakkasan1
Living in Lithuania right now I know a little bit about this subject. You are right that not everyone wants to immigrate. Where you are wrong is that 90% of young people DO want to immigrate because they can make more money in a week in the US/UK/Germany than they can in a month here for the same job. People over say 30 that have families and jobs are less interested in moving.
Ok, so if that's true, and they get their funding from a government program, disband them, along with all the other government programs.
Yes, true, but there are also other things besides money. Specifically with hill tribes, like the Hmong, you have a very strong connection to family, culture, and native area. You can see this in Thailand where hill tribe people from the north tend to stay in their cultural areas rather than move to the big cities. It is not always about the money.
It also becomes a circle, the reason the pay is much higher in the US is because the extreme cost of living compared with other areas around the world. For the Hmong living in the mountains of Laos, there is very little need for money since they provide for themselves. They do not 'need' the luxuries that living in the US provides and most would be useless to them. A color TV and satellite dish does no good if you do not have electricity, something in incredibly short supply in Laos. There is also no need for car payments, car insurance, and all the other drains on the wallet you have in the US.
People over say 30 that have families and jobs are less interested in moving.
Yes, we are arguing the same point. In addition to families, culture and heritage also play a big role.
You may find it interesting that many Cuban-Americans in SoFla complain about the Haitian and Central Americans that have flooded the area over the past 15 years. They are more Americanized than you think.
I agree. We have many Hmong in Seattle. The older folks all seem to want to return to Laos. Their kids love it here though.
When the U.S. Govt. brings refugees here they decide where to put them. Supposedly we group them together to reduce the shock of being in a new place and so that it's easier to support them etc.
When we do this we automatically taint the situation with the likelihood of failure because they do not completely or as quickly assimilate.
It would be nice if we spread them out all over the place but we don't.
It was reported this morning that mr. Vang may have been involved in the shooting death of another hunter in November 01, Clark co. is investigating....
I wonder how many Visgoths and Huns have been counted as well?
ALL "immigration" is NOT "equal."
The people I am talking about are not brought here by the government, but immigrate here. So I guess we are talking about two different kinds of people.
Many are citizens, like the murderous guy in the Wisconsin mass murder. You can't tell people like that where to live. Mostly, people from other cultures live with people of their own type. It's natural.
Very true. I was born and raised in Miami (3rd generation). When it comes to the problems in the city, there is more than enough blame to go around the various communities.
We're definately talking about two different kinds of immigrants.
When the feds bring refugees here they "settle" the vast majority of them into certain areas. It's an unwise practice and we have seen the result of that in Wisconsin.
For the children, I think it would be very difficult for them to move to Laos. With the exception of the capital, Vien Chang, and a few other places like Luang Prabang, most of the country is without electricity. Outside of tourist areas, it is rationed quite heavily. There is also little infrastructure in the country. In the past few years they have finally put paved 'highways', 2 lane roads, in the country connecting places like Vien Chang and Luang Prabang.
It is a shame because it really is an amazing place with absolutely incredible scenery and the nicest most genuine people I have ever met. I have traveled extensively, and I have never felt such generousness as I have from the people in Laos. I know it is a cliche, but they would literally give you the shirt off their back if you needed it. It is a real shame what the government has done there. Luckily, it has not changed the hearts of the people themselves.
Yeah, he sure is. Has a history of domestic violence. It was a bomb awaiting to go off.
How is this cultural clash?????????? Funny thing is in Korea, many of them are farmers and therefore own property. We are very serious when it comes to farming because of the not so good climate in Korea. It is notorious for its brutally cold winter. Koreans often face even more prejudice and racism in Japan and to some degree in China.
I know a Chinese here in Oklahoma that has lived here for 30+ years, commutes back home twice a year, when he isn't in Vegas, speaks marginal english, pays no taxes, and loses every bit of English when ever any authority walks into his resturaunt. He brags about his Tong connections because they own a law firm in OKC that has so far been able to plead discrimination when they can't buy the judge...
All I can say from living in Asia for 10 years, the general culture is to take anything that moves. Walking through a zoo you can hear the people chatting about how that particular animal tastes or might taste... I have seen protected wild animals in Chinese food markets, wounded, dying in cages, being sold for food. And the beaches here are being combed until there is nothing. Of course poachers come in all nationalities, but countries have their own cultural habits, and from my experience, those from China are not concerned about obeying such hunting/fishing rules.
That being said, we Americans drag our own cultural baggage around when we travel as well. I recall lots of "imported" lawyers being set up in Taiwan. The poor people have no idea what's coming down the pike...
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