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Today Show: Delusional Artest Fails to Apologize, Says "It's Time to Move On"
The Today Show | governsleast governsbest

Posted on 11/23/2004 4:59:48 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Today scored a major exclusive this morning with the first TV interview of NBA player Ron Artest, who as FReepers who've spent the last week on the other side of the moon might not know, has been suspended for the remainder of the season for charging into the stands and attacking fans.

This is a case in which mere words, even a verbatim transcript, would be insufficient to fully convey the full flavor of the interview.

In a follow-up interview, NBA Players' Union head Billy Hunter acknowledged to Katie that Artest was "not very articulate."

But that does not begin to convey the situation. It is not simply that Artest is incapable of clearly expressing his thoughts. It's that his thoughts are so deeply detached from reality. I can only conclude that he suffers from a significant learning disability, a severe psychological disorder, or more likely, some combination of the two.

For in all his words and emotions, it was clear that Artest has absolutely no concept of the gravity of the situation or of his role in it.

You'll find below highlights of the interview, conducted by Matt Lauer, but I again stress their inability to fully describe just how detached from reality was Artest.

Let's begin by observing that he never apologized. The closest he came was at the beginning of the interview when he said "I wish it never happened, it wasn't good for anyone." But wishing something hadn't happened is, of course, a million miles from accepting responsibility for the fact that it did, and from apologizing to those who have been harmed or offended.

Artest then stated that NBA Commissioner "David Stern has been good to me but I don't think the number of games of the suspension [73 - the remainder of the season] is fair."

Why does Artest think the length of the suspension is unfair? Because "I want to help the league improve its image." Right. Just the person anyone would choose as its image-makeover expert - Ron Artest.

Far from admitting that he has become, in the wake of Dennis Rodman's retirement, the #1 face of everything that is wrong with the NBA, Artest tried to portray himself as some kind of good-will ambassador. "I've been working real hard and putting forth a number of positive things."

Artest then actually held up the CD he has been working to produce, the one for which he announced last week that he wanted to take a couple months off from his team to devote himself to. "It's about love," said Artest of the CD.

Artest then tried to make light of his past suspensions for violent behavior. In one of those cases, he had smashed a TV camera while leaving the court. "I need that camera. I paid $100,000 for it [in fines] and didn't get a piece of it." Apparently he thought that humor was the appropriate emotion for the day.

Artest then boasted of the fact that "I never harmed anyone." Makes you wonder what he was trying to do when he was throwing haymakers at fans in the stands?

Asked to explain why he went into the stands, Artest statede: "I was frustrated. The tape speaks for itself."

He continued, describing the situation when he was lying on a table at courtside and was hit by a cup of beer: "It was just like 'wow, a cup and a beer,' it almost hit my eye. It was like 'wow.'"

Lauer: "Did it pop into your mind that 'I've crossed a line'?"

Revealing the extent of his self-delusion, Artest replied:

"I think I'm pretty disciplined. You can answer the questions from the tape."

The camera then zoomed in on the t-shirt he was wearing. It bore the legend "tru warier" [sic] with a crouched basketball player forming the letter 'a'. I wonder which PR genius suggested he go on the show wearing that, or did this flow from Artest's own brilliant mind?

As to what should be the reaction to the incident, Artest, in the depths of his delusion, advised: "I think we just move on. Things happen and you just move on."

Lauer: "What would you say to kids who saw the incident?"

Artest: "They saw disrespect from the crowd and reaction from a frustrated player. I would tell them that sometimes things happen and you just have to move on."

Throughout the interview, Artest wore a smile and a "what-me-worry?" expression. He clearly had no clue as to the seriousness of his actions or the implications for himself or his profession.

Then it was on to Katie's interview of NBA union head Billy Hunter, a former player himself. It seemed clear that, off camera, Hunter had been horrified by what Artest said and how he expressed himself.

Katie tried to call him on it, saying "I watched you during the interview." But Hunter would not admit to what his true reaction had been. Instead, he claimed that Artest had apologized. Katie called him on it: "is that what you heard?"

Backtracking somewhat, Hunter then acknowledged that "obviously he's not very articulate." Hunter asserted that the punishment was "a bit excessive. He should have been required to attend anger management and allowed to come back after the All Star break."

Katie jumped: "But isn't he already in anger management?"

Hunter: "Not really, he's gone through it in the past but not in it now."

It was clear that Katie was shocked and disturbed by what Artest said and how he said it. There was a sense that she and Matt were embarrassed by what they had witnessed.

In any case, the image clearly emerges of a Ron Artest with only the flimsiest connection to reality. A suspension of a year is not long enough if, as is apparently the case, he has no concept gravity of the situation.

The interview was a disaster for the NBA and for Artest personally, and offered a revealing and troubling insight into the problems of our society at large.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Indiana; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: artest; basketball; idiot; nba; pacers; pistons; ronartest; thuglife; thugs
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To: Publius6961
What are they gonna do? Force us all to like basketball and go watch games under penalty of... what?

No, they'll claim that the penalty meted out by the white authorities is discriminatory --- too harsh merely because the perpetrators are black. This feeds into the victim mentality they foster to maintain their power and control.

141 posted on 11/23/2004 7:15:50 AM PST by randita
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To: renosathug
Suspension is not enough. He should be banned from the NBA. Until the NBA stops hiring street thugs to "play" basketball, they'll have a problem.

Agreed!

But what do we expect from some thug who has an IQ lower than his PPG average?

And this GENIUS stayed academically eligible to play basketball for St. Johns for two years -- with a math major? Mmm-hmm, sure.

The punk's been coddled his entire life and whoever said this might as well have been talking of Artest . . . "He couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the C and the T." And we wonder why these punks are dysfunctional when they become adults.

The following tale is way, way too long so don't read on if things like this either bore you or make you angry . . . but I think it's important.

I had a relative of mine who was on the staff of my BELOVED Dallas Cowboys (BJJ - Before Jerry Jones) for a lot of years. Yes, he was canned with the Landry regime. Anyway, I was allowed to visit the locker room and the practice field on non-game days, and had an entire run of the training facility during the off-season.

Tom Landry was AND STILL IS one of the most remarkable man I've ever met . . . the second being Roger Staubach. The media always portrayed Coach Landry as being cold and stand-offish but he was never that way with me or ANYONE else I saw him personally interact with. In fact I was a lowly sophomore in high school from a tiny town in West Texas and "sort of" good in sports . . . football and baseball especially.

Coach Landry always went out of his way to talk to me when he saw me either around the Cowboy Complex or waiting for my brother after the games at Texas Stadium. He sent me congratulatory cards after EVERY one of our football games if I was mentioned in the newspaper article, which I usually was. He knew all my statistics, our team record, and even who we needed to beat to advance in the playoffs. He always knew my batting average in baseball. ME! Hell, I was an okay high school athlete . . . but I would've been average in college athletics and there was no way in hell I would ever have a chance in the pros. I'd made all state in baseball my freshman year . . . but it was mainly because there weren't very many high schools of our size that even had baseball teams BUT Coach Landry went out of his way to tell anyone around us that I was THE ONLY freshman to make all state . . . I emphasize "THE ONLY" because that's the way he said it. I think he cottoned to me because he knew I had some "family problems" and there wasn't any . . . uhhh . . . male guidance in my life.

Anyway, sorry that was so long but it was important for you to know that to understand this . . . During the last football game of my sophomore year, with only two minutes to go on the clock, I blew out my left knee -- BIG TIME! Any chance I had for even a college career at a small college was ruined. Walking without a limp would be a major achievement. Like most teens, I thought the world revolved around me and I became withdrawn, angry, and started to rebel even more than I usually had against authority. I was angry and confused about life in general before the injury but things were progressing at even a faster clip now. I didn't get into any major scrapes with the law . . . but I was headed in that direction.

Then . . . Coach Landry stepped in. He called me personally to invite me to a Cowboy game. He'd never done that before. NEVER! I'd only had surgery two weeks earlier and I could barely get around on my crutches, but he wouldn't take no for an answer. He even sent me an airplane ticket and had someone from the Cowboys pick me up at the gate. This someone? Just one of the veteran players who wasn't playing much that year, 1971 . . . Dan Reeves. For those of you who don't know, Dan Reeves also had, and still has, problems with his knees.

Dan Reeves and Mike Ditka served as my quasi-hosts until Coach Landry was free enough where he could talk to me. He didn't talk much though, at first, we just circled the practice field. Him with his hands in his pockets, me hobbling on crutches. He's a lot bigger than some folks think. He was a giant to me, even though I was just a little bit taller and far heavier . . . but he was Tom Landry for God's sake!

We stopped at the end of the field . . . looking back at the players as they worked on the weight machines. At that time, the weight equipment was outside and the players did their thing after the regular practice. He didn't seem to miss anything. I noticed several players and coaches glance up at us . . . then hurriedly get back to work when they thought his gaze was on them.

Remember, this is 1971. The Cowboy historians will remember this as the Staubach/Morton and Duane Thomas/Calvin Hill war years. If I remember right, Texas Stadium even opened this year. Coach Landry had a lot on his plate . . . but he made time for some punk high school athlete who thought the world owed him something.

We still didn't talk.

Man, it seemed like he was silent forever . . . but, hell, a punk like me didn't interrupt the Great Tom Landry when he was thinking, right? I thought he was probably mulling over some great offensive plan, some revolutionary scheme that would overwhelm his opponents. He was probably only silent for maybe a minute or so but it seemed like it was a year.

Finally, he said, nodding at my crutches, "You got a tough break, son. What're you going to do about it?"

I shrugged. I was angry about my injury. Hell, the world had dumped on my sports parade and life would never be the same.

He nodded to a player to the left of the crowd of players working out. He never named him but, somehow, you could always tell who Coach Landry was talking about . . . almost as if his gaze was a laser. "There is no way he should be a member of the Dallas Cowboys. He's too small, too slow, and he catches passes like a brick-layer. But, if he was on another team, I'd trade all of our star players to get him on my team. He's too stubborn to know he doesn't belong here. His work ethic is the best I've ever seen. He studies and studies our opponents, then studies them some more until he finds a way he can help our football team."

Who was he talking about? Walt Garrison.

He nods to a black guy standing off by himself . . . the only Cowboy not working with the weights. "He's the most gifted running back we've ever had, he has more God-given talent than anyone in the league today." Then Coach Landry paused, seemingly to weigh his words. "And he'll be successful in the NFL for awhile. But when his short career is over he'll struggle because he doesn't pay attention to the details of life. He's not planning for a life after football. He has no educational background, not really. He thinks this lifestyle will last forever."

Then Coach Landry moved his gaze to another guy, saying, "He on the otherhand has to work his tail off to even get to play. But he's much more prepared for life after football. He goes to college in the off-season. He has several business ventures outside of football and men like him will be successful in anything they do. Most importantly though, his love of family and God will see him through the problems life throws at us."

I was in shock! Coach Landry has basically called my second-most favorite player a bum while predicting his rival would be a success. The players? Duane Thomas and Calvin Hill.

Lastly, after moving his gaze to a skinny guy who was straining to benchpress what appeared to hardly be anything . . . "Roger is the ultimate NFL player."

Roger, of course, would be Roger Staubach. He was one of only three players I ever heard Coach Landry call by their first names. The other two were Dan Reeves and Mike Ditka. But then these two would soon be Cowboy coaches.

Coach Landry waxed poetic about Roger for quite awhile, listing all the reasons why he would be a success . . . work ethic, blah, blah, blah, THEN ended with Roger's love of God and family.

Coach Landry went on . . . "Of the fifty players we can see now, only a handful of them will truly be successful. Athletes are pampered because of their athletic skills, and this will kill them later on in life. They don't have to learn the communication skills necessary to be successful after football. Most had their educations given to them so they're not prepared for life after football. Most think they're indestructible so they think this life will never end."

He kneeled then, and reached out to thump my full-leg cast. Then he looked up to me, his eyes boring into the back of my skull. "This, son," he said, "can be the best thing that's ever happened to you. But that's up to you. I know I've complimented you on your athleticism but your grades, your demeanor, your faith in God, your love of family, and your being a good citizen are far more important than anything you can do in athletics."

He stood and put his hands on my shoulders, staring me squarely in the face. "I've been hearing some disappointing things about you lately. And part of the blame is mine."

WHAT? I thought. How could he be blamed for me getting caught driving while I was drunk? How could he be blamed for me breaking a guy's jaw when he just looked at my girlfriend? How could he be blamed for me ignoring my curfew and staying out all night on school nights? How could he be blamed for me skipping school and not doing my school assignments?

By God, I thought, the world screwed me and I'm sick of it!

I learned later that, before he talked to me on the telephone to invite me up for this trip that he had talked to my mother.

Coach Landry went on . . . "I've failed you as a mentor, son. And I'm sorry. Now you have to help me get you back on track. If you want to become the man I know you can become, then . . ."

He went on to list the things I needed to do . . . get a good education, treat others as I want to be treated, be faithful, etc.

My life changed that day. I never again won any awards in sports. NONE. I never played organized baseball or basketball again. I was changed from the glamour position of Quarterback to fullback because I couldn't make any cuts on my knee.

But I did make The Honor Roll the next six weeks . . . and a congratulatory card from Coach Landry arrived soon thereafter. And one arrived every six weeks for the next 2-1/2 years of my high school career. I made the Honor Roll every time and Coach Landry recognized my achievement every time.

A little side note . . . the Dallas Cowboys won their first Super Bowl that year. A game I witnessed in New Orleans . . . a guest of Coach Landry as a reward for making the Honor Roll.

I still went to Cowboys games and practices after this . . . but Coach Landry and I were never this close again. Why? Because we both knew I didn't need his guidance as much as some others did. I started to notice that Coach Landry took these lonely walks with angry, young men much more often than I'd previously noticed . . . after just about every practice that I witnessed he'd have someone with him at the far end of the practice field and they were casually gazing back at all of us up by the weight machines.

Athletes like Ron Artest obviously didn't have a Tom Landry in their lives. God how I loved that man. I still do.

142 posted on 11/23/2004 7:25:20 AM PST by geedee (If you're a liberal, what you say is protected. If you're a conservative, it's hateful.)
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To: American Vet Repairman
I read an article in the local newspaper this weekend about this guy and this event. It seems after he joined the Bulls, they had a doctor look at him because of his behavior. He was prescribed medication which he refused to take.

It was after this that the decision was made to dump him, because they knew he was a ticking time bomb.

The upshot is, if he takes the medication, it is doubtful he remains a 20-point, 10-rebound a game guy (or whatever his stats might be). He will not be the same player.

Artest has a long history of chippy play, and on the court is not really admired by anyone on other teams. He usually gets away with it, but trying to toss Ben Wallace into the photographers under the basket is really pushing the envelope. He's probably a bit lucky he just got the shove back from him.

CA....

143 posted on 11/23/2004 7:42:03 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: geedee

Thanks for the post.
That was the era when men weren't afraid to be men (the kind that make their kids proud and mentor the fatherless), and not afraid to bust the cowards that choose to act like animals and put them on the bench or off the team...regardless of how good a player they were.
There are still basketball coaches like that in college ball (John Beilein, Jerry Wainwright, IMHO), but in the pro's the players run the show, and it's gotten to be a nauseating experience. It's all about " give me the ball and let me shoot."


144 posted on 11/23/2004 7:42:25 AM PST by CThomasFan (GWB 04...living proof that God is still bessing America)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Anybody who spends a dime on tickets to support and enrich these criminal primadonnas is a big part of the problem.


145 posted on 11/23/2004 7:46:27 AM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thank you for this well written report, I was looking forward to it this morning.


146 posted on 11/23/2004 7:49:02 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps.)
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To: Time is now
The league is not "gone".

There is a major difference between Bob Probert -or any hockey player- fighting another player on the ice and a hockey player running up into the stands beating the holy hell out of a fan. Hockey fights are a controlled chaos usually lasting less then a 2 minutes. Fighting is no where near as prevalent as it was in the past.

There are massive penalties for the third person into a hockey fight and even larger penalties for someone leaving the bench to join a fight. There hasn't been a bench clearing brawl in hockey since probably 1980- nearly 25 years.
147 posted on 11/23/2004 7:53:27 AM PST by retrokitten (Hell yeah!)
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To: MikeinIraq
havent watched it since Jordan retired

Haven't watched since Larry Bird retired (and/or the Rodman appeared).

148 posted on 11/23/2004 7:53:58 AM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: katieanna

The NBA nows scouts high schools and promises roads paved with gold to teenagers. I remember the year that Kevin Garnett was drafted, the NBA had a promo called 'Stay in School'. I laughed so hard I turned the TV off- never to watch an NBA game again.


149 posted on 11/23/2004 7:58:16 AM PST by rintense
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To: benjaminjjones

that was about the same time...I think Bird retired in 93?

Rodman was on the Pistons in 91 I think....

oh well no biggie...


150 posted on 11/23/2004 7:58:40 AM PST by MikefromOhio (48 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Basketball..?...
(Eddie Murphy laugh)
151 posted on 11/23/2004 7:59:36 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: rabidralph

She better be careful that she doesn't disrespect him. He'll probably charge into the studio and beat her like a Piston fan.


152 posted on 11/23/2004 8:00:08 AM PST by rintense
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To: Miss Marple

Deion Sanders paved the road for Terrel Owens, and every one since.


153 posted on 11/23/2004 8:01:38 AM PST by rintense
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To: Chances Are
One of the guys on H&C last night made a good point about Artest/Wallace... Artest knew he couldn't take Wallace, so he decided to beat up a fan instead. Based on what I read about Artest this weekend in the Chicago papers, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

It appalls me that some Pacer fans are defending this jackass.

154 posted on 11/23/2004 8:03:59 AM PST by rintense
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To: rintense
It appalls me that some Pacer fans are defending this jackass.

"Some"? It seems that "many" are defending him... from Indiana -- a red state, no less -- on ESPN and here in this forum.

"Appalling" doesn't describe it.

155 posted on 11/23/2004 8:05:59 AM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: retrokitten

Kindly see posts 83 and 86. Thank you....


156 posted on 11/23/2004 8:07:28 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......or something like it....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Video that must be seen to be believed:

http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?t=1&p=Source_Today%20Show&i=ed007124-6985-4eea-88b2-e330011a6b7c

157 posted on 11/23/2004 8:14:45 AM PST by trisham
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To: rintense

LOL! Exactly. She's now talking to an NBA-er, who called in to the show.


158 posted on 11/23/2004 8:15:14 AM PST by rabidralph (Arm Tibet)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This makes me so sad. I am a lifelong basketball fan; I cannot just walk away from a sport that I love to watch when it is played properly. I am pissed off that the thugs and brats have taken over the game. I don't mind the black culture, the tattoos, the cornrows, the baggy shorts, etc. but the thug behavior nearly killed the NBA in the 70s and it will kill it this time if the league does not get it under control. They are not helping the cause by letting immature 18-year-olds go directly from high school to the NBA. Artest did go to college for three years - and showed no thuggish behavior at all in college - so it seems to me that he has slowly been corrupted by the overall thug culture in the NBA, and he has not had coaches that guided him properly or executives who cared about his slide into violence.

Not all the NBA teams tolerate the young punks. Detroit is one that doesn't, and it just won the NBA championship. Nearly all of its players went to college, most of them for four years. Joe Dumars looks for players who are good citizens as well as good players. Look at how well Rasheed Wallace has done in Detroit. He used to be thought of as the biggest punk in the NBA, but he has been a model player and citizen in Detroit. He could have signed with any other team in the league but stayed in Detroit to be part of an organization that wins the right way.

The management of NBA teams has a great deal of control over the culture of the organization. Fans should demand better of their teams, not walk away from them.

159 posted on 11/23/2004 8:17:10 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Proud Reagan Alumna!)
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To: Time is now
March 29, 2001 — Tie Domi of the Toronto Maple Leafs wrestled with a fan...

If you watch the replay, Domi is laughing at the guy after the guy fell through the penalty box. Domi could have made that man forget his name if had wanted to. Fan later sued Domi. The suit was settled after Domi flew the fan to Toronto for a game and from what I understand the two are friendly now.

Dec. 23, 1979-Twenty-five years ago!

April 2, 1969-Thirty-five years ago!

Believe what you want about hockey and hockey fans. Hockey is not the NHL. There are plenty of other leagues around the country and around the world that keep on playing while the NHL is locked out and will continue to play no matter what happens to the NHL.

160 posted on 11/23/2004 8:31:39 AM PST by retrokitten (Hell yeah!)
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