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Melee in Chile seen as 'big deal'
Washington Times ^ | 11/23/04 | Jerry Seper and Bill Sammon

Posted on 11/22/2004 9:40:22 PM PST by kattracks

White House officials were still shaking their heads in disbelief yesterday that President Bush personally had to rescue a U.S. Secret Service agent from angry Chilean security officials Saturday night.
    "This is a pretty big deal," said a senior White House official, who called the incident a "melee."


    "I mean, the guy who was supposed to be guarded had to rescue the guy who was supposed to be guarding him."
    The official expressed astonishment that Chilean security officials had stopped the No. 2 agent on Mr. Bush's security detail from accompanying the president into a meeting with another world leader, an unprecedented public breach of security arrangements agreed upon in advance.

[snip]

In contrast to Chile, which rejected Secret Service protocols, Colombia ceded control of 15,000 of its troops to the United States when Mr. Bush visited there yesterday. Colombian President Alvaro Uribe also agreed to allow heavily armed U.S. Navy forces to patrol the waters around Cartegena in rubber boats.


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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; apec; bringbackpinochet; bush; chile; napalminthemorning; uribe; usss; w; wot
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To: Republican Wildcat
How many times will this story be posted?"

The over and unders are at 43.

How many will post saying it is a duplicate? Over and unders are at 147.

61 posted on 11/22/2004 11:36:18 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith: living proof that one need not be poor to be white trash.)
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To: kattracks
" Law-enforcement authorities said the Chileans, who claimed to be in charge of security for the event, stopped Secret Service agent Nick Trotta as he was escorting Mr. Bush and first lady Laura Bush into the center, jumping in front of the agent as he approached the building entry. The authorities said the Chilean officers had seemed poised to act. "

Planned and premeditated. This could have ended up far worse. I'd bide my time, then give them a good quiet behind the scenes skull crushing, reminding them paybacks are a b****.

62 posted on 11/22/2004 11:39:18 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: kattracks
This should be the last time an American President visits
this stupid country of Chile.
What a bunch of macho morons! And the street freaks!?
So low class , no wonder they had a right wing regime put it's boot on the peoples throat .
Santiago newspapers wrote : "John Wayne ... definitely acting like a cowboy."
Thank God!
Personally I love both John Wayne and cowboys.
What have they got to admire down there? demonstrators?
We are so lucky to be Americans....most of the rest of the world just doesn't get it , totally clueless....
63 posted on 11/22/2004 11:57:49 PM PST by injin
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To: ForGod'sSake
They rejected the predetermined protocols when they a) stopped a secret service agent from accompanying the president and b) downgraded a state dinner after the first incident and refused to the metal detectors (also predetermined).
64 posted on 11/22/2004 11:59:50 PM PST by Ruth A.
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To: bd476

Ping to more info!


65 posted on 11/23/2004 12:01:52 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: discipler
That's how it is down there.

Nope, the Secret Service Agent was CLEARLY at fault here, folks!

Anyone with common sense, particularly a security agent, would have known that proper "protocol" would be stealthily pressing a $20 bill into the palm of each Chilean agent, and maybe $100 for their top agent. Heck, for about $500, the SS could have left their agents at home, and had the best paid army in South America. The head of the SS detail screwed up, plain and simple, and forgot to pay off his Chilean counterparts.

THAT, my friend, is how it's down down there (though prices differ according to region; dang druggies have driven prices of graft way up in some parts of S. America!).

SFS

66 posted on 11/23/2004 12:02:14 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: kattracks
In recent years, some foreign officials have complained about the Secret Service's high-profile presence when the president travels abroad, suggesting that foreign security officials have been relegated to backup roles or ignored.

Recent years? Like since, September 11th? Gosh, is it that difficult to figure out why?

67 posted on 11/23/2004 12:03:41 AM PST by Ruth A.
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To: quantim

Read the article. It says that they (Chileans) had stopped the agents even though arrangements had been made for them to accompany the President into the event.

This shouldn't be blamed on our guys.


68 posted on 11/23/2004 12:06:36 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: cgk

W looks like he's the only one having a good time.


69 posted on 11/23/2004 12:09:02 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: ForGod'sSake

Hopefully you decided to read the article after you posted that.

We do know the answer to that.


70 posted on 11/23/2004 12:11:08 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: ForGod'sSake

I saw a video today that I hadn't seen before. This video showed the second agent being allowed in after the President had gone back inside with Trotta.

He caught up, along with the woman in red, (which is maybe Laura's agent?) about the time the President and First Lady had greeted the other leader that was already inside. The three agents walked behind the President.

Anyway, it also showed the tensions still going on outside even after Bush had gone back inside, between the Chileans and some of the President's team outside the building.

It looked pretty bad for awhile. No one was happy.

I wish I could remember where I saw it to give you the link. It was very interesting to watch.


71 posted on 11/23/2004 12:25:13 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: nutmeg
La Cuarta, a Santiago newspaper, described Mr. Bush's actions as a "total breach of protocol" and referred to him as "John Wayne ... definitely acting like a cowboy."

THAT removes ALL doubt (if there was any to begin with) that George did the right thing.

If those third-world bug-country bozos are howling like Demonrats after an election, you know for a *fact* that they've been treated with the proper amount of contempt due their worthlessness.

72 posted on 11/23/2004 12:45:38 AM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: texasflower

Thank you for the ping, Texasflower!


73 posted on 11/23/2004 1:21:56 AM PST by bd476
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
THAT, my friend, is how it's down down there (though prices differ according to region

Very true. "Facilitation Fees" are much less in Bolivia.

74 posted on 11/23/2004 2:22:46 AM PST by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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To: kattracks

Bush's action in Chile has received woefully little press in the electronic media here in the USA. Has anyone seen any video of it in the LameStream Media? I haven't. (I don't watch much of it, I must admit.)


75 posted on 11/23/2004 2:29:31 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Fox has carried it. I don't know about the networks, since I never watch them.


76 posted on 11/23/2004 2:32:49 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: kattracks; All
Political Bumper Stickers&nbsp: BD231A My heroes have always been cowboys - Bush and Reagan
77 posted on 11/23/2004 2:40:46 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: sinanju
i actually live in chile.

my take on all this FWIW is that Chile wants to be seen as a competent, developed country at the level of at least the lesser ones in Europe (e.g. - Greece, Portugal, someday Italy). things down here work pretty well and i think they have a good case, but not quite yet.

the APEC meeting to them "shows" that they "have arrived", and this went to their head. they are still playing out of their league, way out of their league, and proved it more than once during APEC.

worst, the Chileans down here don't see that they have done anything wrong (stoked up by the huge communist party and heavily infiltrated leftist anti-US press)

78 posted on 11/23/2004 2:43:05 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: kattracks

The chances of Chile getting any financial, military or other aid in the near term are probably not very good.


79 posted on 11/23/2004 2:45:33 AM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry is now a kept man . . .)
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To: chilepepper
Thank you for your enlightening post.
80 posted on 11/23/2004 2:52:40 AM PST by Quilla
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