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Please excuse the caps, it's how it was presented.
1 posted on 11/22/2004 8:01:27 PM PST by Ladysmith
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To: Ladysmith

No death penalty in Wisconsin, if memory serves me.


2 posted on 11/22/2004 8:03:24 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Ladysmith

So what's the scoop on this Vang guy?


3 posted on 11/22/2004 8:04:24 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Ladysmith

Either PTSD or one really flipped out PETA/ELF/ALF/ASPCA/GREENIE nut!

My first impression was the latter - a whacko's delusional attempt to make hunters the hunted.


4 posted on 11/22/2004 8:06:51 PM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: Ladysmith

I'm so sorry that this man has died too. Prayers go out to his family and to the families of the other victims. May God comfort them and give them strength during this difficult time.


5 posted on 11/22/2004 8:07:00 PM PST by NRA2BFree (SAVE AMERICA! KICK THE UN AND THE ILLEGALS OUT NOW!!)
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To: PjhCPA; Iowa Granny; AirForceMom; ohioWfan; TexKat; joesnuffy; Lijahsbubbe

Sad ping


6 posted on 11/22/2004 8:07:47 PM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: Ladysmith
The left is trying so hard to get this to "stick" but I just don't think it's going to get any traction. It's an SKS for heaven's sakes!

No hi-cap magazine, no pistol grip! The thing is even arguably UGLY. :-)
7 posted on 11/22/2004 8:07:57 PM PST by hiredhand ( "Pudge the Indestructible Kitty" lives at - http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: Ladysmith
Sat down tonight and, as I received my nightly dose of mayhem I was confronted with (In addition to this unbelievable, senseless outrage )1) The mutilation of a baby by her mother, 2) The insufferable continuation of the Laci Peterson tragedy/debacle/circus, 3)The complete inculcation of the Pistons/Pacers fiasco into my DNA, 4) The racial slurs against Dr. Rice and finally (I only watched 30 mins.) 5) The continuation of Kerry's non-contest of election but the altruistic quest to make certain every vote is counted - In Ohio if you please.

All in all a lousy day to see the news on TV but, then again, what day isn't?
17 posted on 11/22/2004 8:17:10 PM PST by drt1
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To: Ladysmith
More prayers for the families of the victims, and for the wounded.

Lord, please give them comfort beyond what can be humanly comprehended. Help them feel Your presence in this time of deep shock and grief.

May justice be swift and sure for their murderer.

19 posted on 11/22/2004 8:19:38 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: Ladysmith
I suspect a Minnesota resident taking a gun into Wisconsin and killing 6 residents would warrant federal attention.
What an absolute tragedy.

mc
20 posted on 11/22/2004 8:20:31 PM PST by mcshot (Boldly going nowhere fast.)
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To: Ladysmith

Did this guy understand English?


23 posted on 11/22/2004 8:21:25 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Ladysmith

So sad. Prayers.


31 posted on 11/22/2004 8:29:11 PM PST by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: Ladysmith

I suspect this was the fellow that was shot in the guts..for lack of a better way to put it. BAD way to go that one and very hard to treat. Infection sets in because of all the contents in there.

This is really a terrible event. I hope they hang the bastard who did this from a light pole.


32 posted on 11/22/2004 8:29:58 PM PST by crz
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To: Ladysmith

He had a short criminal history, with an arrest for threatening his wife with a gun a few years ago, and a couple of visits to his house for domestic disputes.

This is not being portrayed here in MN as a gun control issue. Just a sad tragedy.


37 posted on 11/22/2004 8:34:13 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: Ladysmith
I heard on the radio (KFI) that the shooter is Hmong, and they don't believe in property rights. Celebrate diversitay!

This is all part of the Bush/Kerry immigration policy where we get to conform to their ways instead of the other way around.

45 posted on 11/22/2004 8:51:57 PM PST by sixmil
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To: Ladysmith
You did ok!

From Ch 18

Shooting Spree: Sixth Hunter Dies

Marshfield
Nov 22, 2004

Denny Drew died on Monday night at St. Joseph's Hospital in Marshfield. Drew was 55 years old. He was from Rice Lake. He was among the eight people wounded on Sunday afternoon. Authorities say it all started after a hunter was told to leave a tree stand on private property. They say Chai Vang climbed down from the tree and started shooting. Five of the victims died at the scene. Robert Crotteau and his son, Joey were killed along with Al Laski, Mark Roidt and Jessica Willers. Drew was among three others who were wounded. The other two are still in the hospital. Vang was arrested in the case and could be charged with murder. He's from St. Paul, Minnesota.


Twenty-year-old Joey Crotteau died along with his father.


Robert Crotteau 42


Denny Drew died Monday night.


Mark Roidt was among those killed. He was 28.


Al Laski died. He was 43.

Mother Says Son Loved to Hunt

Barron County
Nov 22, 2004

The mother of one of the victims of Sunday's shooting is trying to take comfort in the fact her son died doing something he loved. "I don't know how I feel right now," says Karen Roidt, whose son Mark Roidt died. "I just don't know how I feel right now. I just hope justice is done." Karen says her son loved to go hunting with his father. Mark's friends say he was a fun-loving guy who was always upbeat. "It was just a senseless crime," says Karen. "He doesn't know how many lives have been affected, not just the eight families of the victims."

Community Reacts to Shooting

Rice Lake
Nov 22, 2004

Sunday's shooting in Sawyer County is hitting the Rice Lake community hard. All of the victims were well-known and well-liked in Rice Lake. "Horror, just gut-wrenching horror," says Rebecca Olson. "Who would believe something like this would ever happen? It's awful."

"You hear the names of the people who didn't make it out of the woods and this is a small town, and I did, I knew them all, and it's a terrible thing," says Dan Organ.

Chip Klabough says he's hunted in the Birchwood area and knows the territory well. "There's a ton of public land to hunt on, so why would you have to have an argument about private land or anything -- I don't comprehend it," says Klabough.

Other hunters News 18 talked to say there have been disputes between hunters and land owners in the past, and they say they are surprised something like this didn't happen earlier.

From Ch 13

Sixth Shooting Victim Dies
November 22, 2004
Andrew Fefer

The Sawyer County sheriff says there are thousands of acres of public land in that area available for hunting, but the dispute took place at midday Sunday on four-hundred acres of private land.

When the landowner saw 36-year-old Chai Vang in a tree stand without permission, he radioed to his hunting party.

"He stated over the radio he was going to go and ask the persons to leave," said Sheriff Jim Meier. "He approached the person and asked him to leave at which time the landowners and occupants of the cabin that he was staying at also came on the scene; the suspect got down from the stand, walked about 40 yards, fiddled with his rifle, maybe took the scope off, turned, and opened fire on the group."

That's when Terry Willard radioed for help, but as seven other people came to assist, they became victims as well. Finally, a few other members of the party were able to make a run for help.

"The rescuers, who also came under fire, checked the bodies for signs of life and they grabbed who they could grab and got out of there because they were still under fire."

As the survivors sped toward Birchwood, the shooter reportedly stayed in the woods for another five hours, his exact movements not clear until he was seen by two other hunters.

"They came upon the subject, he reported he was lost, they didn't realize who they were talking to, so out of the goodness of their hearts, they gave him a ride back out at which time they had realized they had Mr. Vang in their presence and offered him a ride to the warden's truck, at which time he was taken into custody."

The suspect, Vang, was described as calm and cooperative, saying nothing that would indicate what specifically led to the gunshots that left victims, dead and wounded, scattered over an area of about a hundred yards.

Monday evening, the family of 55-year-old Denny Drew released a statement through Lakeview Medical Center in Rice Lake saying that he died at St. Joseph's in Marshfield.

62 posted on 11/22/2004 10:46:50 PM PST by quietolong
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To: Ladysmith

A terrible story. Prayers for the victims and their families.


74 posted on 11/23/2004 2:36:30 AM PST by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: Ladysmith

Ladysmith do you no if any of them worked for Besse?


79 posted on 11/23/2004 5:03:12 AM PST by crz
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To: Ladysmith

Let me be the first to say that this shows the importance of assault weapons. 8 guys with scoped rifles are outgunned by one man with a junk SKS.

No wonder every military on the planet arms most of their troops with self-loading rifles.

And when some folks say "we don't need battle rifles to defend liberty, because I am a crack shor with my scoped sniper rifle", we can just point to this incident and ask how good bolt rifles are against one man with an SKS.

Of course, the real problem is that the victims never shifted mental state into combat, probably just wondering what the heck is going on, and not considering shooting back.


90 posted on 11/23/2004 7:54:22 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Ladysmith

Chai Soua Vang, 36, who lives on St. Paul's East Side, was arrested in connection with the multiple shootings of hunters in western Wisconsin today. He is being held in the Sawyer (Wis.) County Jail.
Kstp-tv
99 posted on 11/23/2004 1:50:15 PM PST by demlosers
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