Posted on 11/22/2004 8:07:47 AM PST by qam1
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How come you never hear about guys fretting over the superman myth?
I just sit back and grin and talk about what a good life I have in being able to call my own schedule. Drives them crazy.
I flat out do not believe this.
There is an end to it - no one breastfeeds forever.
Who suffers more - the woman at 50 who looks back and says "I missed my child's childhood", or the woman at 50 and looks back and says "I missed my promotion at the ad agency" ??
I'll bet this author a paycheck she cannot show a 1 to 1 in these stands! Truth is most women who leave the work place would not go back to save their lives after they get past the initial phase..... Sure some miss work, however if you think because you don't have a job you can't be fullfilled you are nuts. There are so many things out there, organizations, community groups etc... that a stay at home mom can find pleanty of "satisfaction" without dealing with a BOSS.
The idea that as many stay at home moms regret or feel unfullfilled by not working, as there are women who have come to realize that they are cheating their children and feel guilty about it because they work.. is feminist drivel.
I "have it all".
I get to stay home with my babies, and take care of my family.
What kind of weirdo considers feeding her child to be a "chore"?
This pisses me off so bad.
What a load of crap we were fed growing up, you can work, you can be a mom, and you'll still have time to party the night away.
Well I don't, and now we are juggling, struggling to decide what to do so I can be home for our kids. Quit my fulltime job? Part time work while they're at school? Telecommute? No outside work? Switch health insurances? Get rid of one car? Plant a garden?
I think the problem is they don't instruct girls that being a stay-at-home mom IS an option, and a damn fine one.
She's wrong; you can have it all, just not all at the same time. If you accept that you can't be a high powered lawyer or doctor while at the same time being a full time mother to the children you've invited into this world, you will be much more content.
She's right about our desire for instant gratification. We want to be able to graduate from college, start a career, have a couple of kids in between business meetings, and still expect to keep everything totally organized, and be happy in every aspect of our lives. Ain't gonna happen.
What happened to doing things in their time? Go to college and get a degree in something you think you'd like to do. Work a few years, get married, work a little more, have some kids and stay home and be a mother to them, enjoying their short time as little ones. If you really like being with them, you could postpone your high dollar career for one that involves being their teacher, and homeschool them! If that doesn't appeal to you, then when they're in school, look at that career you put on hold. Is is truly what you always wanted, or is there something else that might appeal to you. By now you've had some real world experience, and a few more years to grow up. At this point, you can make a really informed decision about your career, and you can go back to school, or do some home education to further that goal.
If we get ourselves out of the trap we've created, we'd be a lot happier and more fulfilled in our lives. Stop obsessing and start truly LIVING!
I have never met a man who suffers in silience. Especially when it comes to physical ailments, men are the biggest crybabies.
The kind that's always gazing over the fence at the greener grass. People just need to learn to enjoy the here and now.
PS: Good on you for actually taking the time to raise your kids and tend to your family. What a concept!!
Dunno, tamar....might explain why the suicide rate is higher for men than for women.
I don't know about everyone elses jobs, but I know there are several women here who have quit to stay home with their children. Not your low level employees either, high level managers and execs. No one around here looks down at them. The general response from other women seems to be, "Good for her!"
My hubby suffers in silence. He had surgery a couple of years ago and was trying to act like it was just another day at the beach in the recovery room. Then he nearly passed out, because he was pushing himself too hard, too fast. Then he absolutely refused to take his pain medication.
My dad is the exact same way. They are both like the knight in The Holy Grail. "Just a flesh wound. I'm fine."
Boy, did that hit the nail on the head. I've about seven more years until my first "retirement". (When the kids grow up.) My mind is churning at the possibilities for my second career. The idea of owning my own business is appealing.
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Totally disagree.
Most men would rather their families know nothing if they are in pain, rather than have them worry. In my experience, men don't say a word, until their problems become unmanageable on their own.
I think the reason people are saying "Good for her" is that a whole generation was brought up with severe family problems because their boomer parents didn't have time for them (not FReeper boomers, of course). Remember in the 70's how divorce was supposed to be so "liberating"? It was everywhere in the pop culture, divorce, divorce, divorce. Unfortunately, no one seemed to give a crap as to what effect all this would have on the kids.
Well, the kids grew up and had kids of their own. And I see a lot of people not wanting to make the mistakes their parents made. So, like you, I hear a lot of "Good for her" these days.
Also note: I am not slamming people who are divorced, stuff happens. I am disgusted by the pop culture push for divorce that happened in the 70's.
The most important legacy of the feminist movement of the 70's is the two-income household. The results of that legacy are coming in and they don't look good in many areas:
1) Inflation. It now takes two incomes to maintain the same standard of living and affluency as one income could have maintained before 1970.
2) Latch-key kids. When kids come home from school to an empty house, there's no telling what they could get into without their parents around.
3) Divorce. It could be the most serious social problem our society faces. Having the husband and wife "doing their own thing" in "their own careers" undermines the united family concept.
4) Bigger Government. Because parents don't seem to be around, it's been up to the government to raise and supervise children. That has brought forth the predictable results.
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