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Deer hunters shot in Wisconsin
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 11/22/2004 | Joshua Freed

Posted on 11/22/2004 7:20:55 AM PST by Rio

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1 posted on 11/22/2004 7:20:55 AM PST by Rio
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To: Rio

"...SKS 7.62 mm semiautomatic rifle, a common hunting weapon."

Not here in Penna.


2 posted on 11/22/2004 7:24:57 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Rio

He used an assault weapon too as per the MSM. You always use an assault weapon when deer hunting, doncha know?


3 posted on 11/22/2004 7:26:02 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, AIr Force, Pray for all our military in hostile territory.)
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To: Rio

bump


4 posted on 11/22/2004 7:30:24 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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a SKS 7.62 mm semiautomatic rifle, a common hunting weapon.

Good grief! The SKS was an Eastern Block semi-auto combat rifle before being replaced by the more maintenance friendly AK-47. The 7.62X39 round is not particularly a good deer round either.

If the SKS is a “common hunting weapon” up there, the game wardens must be really on edge . . . and a shootout between 3 round bolt guns and someone with a semi-auto is hardly fair and not very intelligent on the part of the people with the bolt guns!

5 posted on 11/22/2004 7:36:09 AM PST by MountainPete (democrats are Liars . . . the Truth ain't in 'em!)
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To: MountainPete

they may have been returning fire after the dude with the semi auto opened up only thing i can think of that makes sense here


6 posted on 11/22/2004 7:38:45 AM PST by DM1
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To: Rio
Deer 5... hunters 0.

Game postponed for lack of ammo.

7 posted on 11/22/2004 7:38:55 AM PST by johnny7 (“We blowed 'em up real good!” -John Candy & Joe Flaherty, SCTV)
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To: Rio
"...identified the suspect as Chai Vang but would give no additional details."

Another case of multiculturalism run amok. Here's guessing Mr. Vang has never been hunting before. He probably doesn't understand the term "posted". His firearm was bought more for ego satisfaction than it's finely crafted ability to make one clean shot.

I don't know what kind of Hunter Education Mr. Vang went though but clearly, it wasn't enough.

8 posted on 11/22/2004 7:40:42 AM PST by Gingersnap
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identified the suspect as Chai Vang...

...and he used a Chicom 7.62-mm rifle, go figure < /scarcasm >

9 posted on 11/22/2004 7:41:18 AM PST by meandog (qu"Do unto others before they do unto you!")
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It wouldn’t surprise me if one of the hunters opened up on him first. It was their land and he was trespassing. They wouldn’t have realized that they were confronting someone who had likely been in a fire fight before and was armed as he was.


10 posted on 11/22/2004 7:42:32 AM PST by MountainPete (democrats are Liars . . . the Truth ain't in 'em!)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
SKS is legal and commonly used in VA. Ballistics are about the same as a 30-30. Loaded with the right ammo, they work just fine on deer.

As for this nutjob psycho poacher, he needs to fry.

11 posted on 11/22/2004 7:44:02 AM PST by gieriscm
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To: MountainPete
"and a shootout between 3 round bolt guns and someone with a semi-auto is hardly fair and not very intelligent on the part of the people with the bolt guns!"

I doubt any of them shot back. The perp was found with no ammo. ~20 rounds were reportedly fired. 8 people were shot, some of them twice. They probably froze. A bolt gun is fine though for someone to return fire. One shot is all it takes.

12 posted on 11/22/2004 7:46:16 AM PST by spunkets
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To: Gingersnap
His firearm was bought more for ego satisfaction than it's finely crafted ability to make one clean shot.

I suspect it was a firearm he was accustomed to and could afford . . . considerably cheaper than even a workhorse Model 700 or Model 70. Ammo’s cheaper, as well.

13 posted on 11/22/2004 7:47:05 AM PST by MountainPete (democrats are Liars . . . the Truth ain't in 'em!)
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I'll take my BA everytime Pete. Friday afternoon, I drove right down W 70 directly past that area. I saw a MINN. plate car with a goofy looking easterner exploring through junk in the trunk of his car. Since we don't see a lot of those folks up here, I made a mental note of it. I wonder if this guy is here legally?
But, we really need those guest workers to keep the funeral and mortuary business humming!


14 posted on 11/22/2004 7:47:08 AM PST by STD (Last Action Hero)
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To: Rio
After having read the article and comments a few additional comments.

Maybe I should start a line of sportswear; hunter orange kevlar vests.

I have purchased an SKS for use by my sons, when they were younger to use deer hunting. I even hand loaded premium bullets so they could use if for that purpose. Balistically, it is not that far different from a 30-30 and about as accurate (I have a Marlin 336 30-30) at 100 yards. The biggest problem with the 7.62x39 ammo for hunting is finding quality ammo. If you manufacture your own it isn't a problem.

Another reason that I got the SKS for my sons when they took hunter safety, was that as a gas operated semi-auto, its recoil is quite mild. Finally, the stock is cut for a "small" person. In short the SKS can be a reasonable deer hunting rifle for the right person and they are quite inexpensive for the quality one gets.

Having said that, I still prefer my Win Mod 70 30-06 for deer.

I am sure that this incident will shortly be the poster child for calls by Democrats to ban all semi-auto firearms or at least all "military style" semi-automatic firearms.

16 posted on 11/22/2004 7:58:49 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: spunkets
I doubt any of them shot back.

Yeah, obviously I don’t know for a fact. One does have to wonder what Mr. Vang was doing “hunting” with a fully charged SKS and an additional stripper clip. If he had a license, he had to know that was not legal (it certainly isn’t here).

I’ll concede your point about bolt guns and one shot . . . but it takes a certain measure of expertise and experience to prevail that way when lead is being slung.

17 posted on 11/22/2004 7:59:45 AM PST by MountainPete (democrats are Liars . . . the Truth ain't in 'em!)
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To: spunkets
I'd have to agree here, but I know if I were in the situation and my buddy called me on the radio because he'd been shot by someone who was trespassing on our land, I would've unloaded on the stand that he was in with what ever rifle or shotgun I had at the time! I would've reloaded and kept shooting until I was sure the guy was dead. This would've been a clear cut case of self defense, and likely less people would've been shot/killed if everyone that responded from the hunting party would've done that exact thing.

Way I heard it, several people responded (went to investigate), and were also subsequently shot. If they all would've taken their guns and left their blaze orange behind, this guy (the perp) never would've had a chance.
18 posted on 11/22/2004 8:00:55 AM PST by jurroppi1
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To: 7.62 x 51mm; Piquaboy
He used an assault weapon too as per the MSM. You always use an assault weapon when deer hunting, doncha know?

Actually fairly common, though they may prompt an occasional check by a warden to to be sure you're not using jacketed ammunition.

19 posted on 11/22/2004 8:04:28 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Gingersnap

Sounds like a Lao name.


20 posted on 11/22/2004 8:08:44 AM PST by ASA Vet (What if there were no hypothetical questions?)
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