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Just a reminder that the backlash against Bible-driven and Bible-educated Christians is heating up.

While I think it's wonderful that they're open and accepting to all, I'm left to wonder if they're preaching REPENTANCE to help lead these people to salvation? Or, are they simply saying, "you are who you are, don't apologize for anything - lovelovelovelove..."

1 posted on 11/21/2004 11:33:12 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow
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Homosexual Agenda PING -

The Apostacy grows...


2 posted on 11/21/2004 11:34:52 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow (Hears the Four Horsemen saddling up...)
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Charity is important in Christianity, but so is the call to conversion to holiness and Godly life. Christianity loses something important if one is told that whatever one is doing, it's perfectly acceptable, there is no sin and no call to conversion. In fact, it becomes what I would consider a difference religion.


3 posted on 11/21/2004 11:38:18 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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The "ongoing revelation" is the essence of Flip Wilson's old "Church of What's Happenin' Now". I'm okay, you're okay." This is the same warmed-over 60's bunkum that has emptied their churches in the first place. No absolutes from the Word of God, just pick and choose what you want to believe. I guess this will provide a "church" that will bury unbelieving baby boomers, though, so it may have a function after all.


4 posted on 11/21/2004 11:40:49 AM PST by kittymyrib
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Does anyone here know of any church that "turns people away" because they are homosexuals?

I'm sure they would be welcomed at any church but might not like the message.

They can't handle the truth and there will always be "churches" with feel good theolgy for them.

6 posted on 11/21/2004 11:40:58 AM PST by Graybeard58
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"'I have come not to change the law but to fulfill it.' By fulfilling it, he meant to show how it can be revealed now in us. It's a constant state of revelation evolving into something new and fresh and great.""

I always thought the fulfillment was the Redemption and our repentence and acceptance, or the choice to deny God's Gift of Grace. The new, fresh and great while still the Redemption does not negate the need for repentence and observance of all those Commandments, revealed law and instruction. The evolving he speaks about is negating God's law to fit his theory of Man evolving and the Word evolving. IMHO.


7 posted on 11/21/2004 11:43:30 AM PST by OpusatFR (tagline fatigue~ check in tomorrow.)
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I'm left to wonder if they're preaching REPENTANCE to help lead these people to salvation? Or, are they simply saying, "you are who you are, don't apologize for anything - lovelovelovelove..."

Rest assured it's the latter. These people create an image of God plucked from thin air with a lot of guidance from Satan. They pick and choose which parts of the Bible they're comfortable with and ignore the rest. The problem is that God is not some good-natured uncle who lets everything slide with a wink and a nod. There are always consequences to stepping outside His will.

My church is Southern Baptist and very conservative. And despite the lies spread by the the left, we most certainly do welcome all with open arms. That does not mean, however, that our pastor treads lightly so as not to offend. God's truth is offensive to those under Satan's guidance, whether that guidance is direct or indirect. Jesus himself made clear that He would be a divider, not a uniter. God's principles are not open for negotiation, and truth is not in any way dependent upon anyone believing it.

I also believe the "churches" discussed in this article are clear examples of the "falling away" prophesied in Revelation, as are the churches now embracing homosexuality. Satan has no greater tool than these counterfeits.

MM

11 posted on 11/21/2004 12:17:42 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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I've never been to ANY Church that turned folks away at the door. In a Parish I attended in NJ, a woman used to wander in halfway through Mass with her dog, and sit right up front. The priest knew the woman and never gave her any hassle.

This is just the liberals ASSUMING that folks aren't welcome at the 'conservative' churches. FOlks are welcome, but they'd better be ready to be asked to repent. The lib churches encourage them to come to where they don't preach any need for repentance, so no need to change your behavior. Folks may think that's great, but after a while, it will ring hollow, and they'll drop out again. God's love is irresistable, and many fight it, but it draws us nonetheless.

19 posted on 11/21/2004 1:19:50 PM PST by SuziQ (W STILL the President)
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