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1 posted on 11/18/2004 8:03:58 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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My sister works for an insurance company that tells the employees they have to be on-line and ready by 8:30. It takes about 10 minutes or so to get there! So, they have to come in early or get reprimanded.This is also a company that times your bathroom breaks!


2 posted on 11/18/2004 8:11:49 PM PST by ozaukeemom (From one of my 13 yr old's friends"If Kerry is the question, the answer is Stupid")
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What a country, we have illegals working legally, and in this article we have legals working illegally. The NYT is not my paper of record, but from my first hand knowledge a lot of this coercion is going on.


3 posted on 11/18/2004 8:12:42 PM PST by Biblebelter
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Seems pretty common in fast food joints employing kids, neighbor kids all had to endure this or lose their jobs.
Scummy behavior on the part of employers.


4 posted on 11/18/2004 8:14:07 PM PST by 1066AD
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I believe it. I used to have to work after my quitting time, even though I wouldn't be paid for it.

I think this goes on a lot.

Not sure if going to the labor board would help or not.


6 posted on 11/18/2004 8:18:33 PM PST by Netizen
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some car dealerships are doing this now in the service department. the mechanics essentially are hourly contractors. they come into work in the AM, if there are cars there with 4 hours of work on the clock needing repairs - you get paid for 4 hours of work.


8 posted on 11/18/2004 8:27:19 PM PST by oceanview
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Welcome to the salaried world, MWAHAHAHAHAA!


9 posted on 11/18/2004 8:30:06 PM PST by Cobra Scott
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Many weeks, Ms. LeBlue spent 40 hours in the salon, but was ordered to clock out for 20 of them while waiting for customers to show up, she said.



Not being paid while you're not doing what you were hired to do?!

THE HORROR!


10 posted on 11/18/2004 8:36:51 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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My husband is a chef, paid hourly, and he just found out they have been basing his pay on his scheduled hours not his actual hours- a lot of times he gets in and his boss asks him to clock in early or they have to stay late to close. I know he should have been tracking his actual hours to paid hours all along, but he's too trusting for his own good.


16 posted on 11/18/2004 9:06:26 PM PST by conservative cat
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Union


17 posted on 11/18/2004 9:10:45 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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too bad the labor movement's gotten smacked around so badly the past few scores of years. now with dems abandoning workers (not to mention short on power), these folks'll be lucky to get a dime. and i'm sure they're just the tip of the iceberg.


19 posted on 11/18/2004 9:22:14 PM PST by radical_left_troll (that's right. troll. no shame...btw, i love this site.)
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This is not really a problem. You see we have a comparable number of workers who don't do any work when they are "on the clock".


20 posted on 11/18/2004 9:27:49 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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"Federal and state laws generally require that hourly employees be paid for every minute they work"

Well if State and Fed employees, after smoke breaks, chit-chat, long lunches and general laziness. Who owes who now? A taxpayer wants his dues!

24 posted on 11/18/2004 11:16:18 PM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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This is awful, and these companies should have to pay back wages. That hair salon featured here should be prosecuted. That's nothing less than the powerful kicking the weak around.


31 posted on 11/19/2004 8:02:59 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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Why do these people not report their companies? Sheesh. If you don't fight back, you don't get to bitch.


34 posted on 11/19/2004 8:06:35 AM PST by Xenalyte (And so he says, I don't like the cut of your jib, and I go, I says, It's the only jib I got, baby!)
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Unlike factory workers, many hourly employees work where there are no time clocks and the situation is somewhat fluid. For example, an employee might work two hours past the end of a normal shift without putting in for overtime pay one night, but arrive two hours late on another morning because of a parent-teacher conference. In such settings, employers may easily wring out extra hours from their workers.

I work an extra hour tonight, I come in an hour late tomorrow. Doesn't sound like anyone is getting wrung out for anything.
35 posted on 11/19/2004 8:08:38 AM PST by Xenalyte (And so he says, I don't like the cut of your jib, and I go, I says, It's the only jib I got, baby!)
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If you don't like the rules of your company, QUIT. QUIT. QUIT. Soon, the company will see that they will only get bad workers for that money and they will change. I worked for a Korean Company that was simply awful to women. There were only three of us in managerial type positions. After realizing I wasn't going to go anywhere in this Company and not liking the way I was being treated, I left. The other two ended up suing for Sexual Harrassment. They won a TON of money. Neither of them has to work.

That being said, I would never have gone in with them, I believe that if you don't like your situation, it's up to you to change it.

37 posted on 11/19/2004 8:12:09 AM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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The world will always deal you exactly as much crap as you are willing to accept.

"No" is the most powerful word you can use. If you position yourself to say no to any deal, you can control it. In a job, this means the ability to quit.

If you find yourself in a position where you can't say no, work to remedy the situation.

43 posted on 11/19/2004 8:36:02 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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.......Chinese prisons too.....

Forced to Work Off the Clock, Some Fight Back......then die....666

44 posted on 11/19/2004 8:38:09 AM PST by maestro
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***Many people who study business practices say off-the-clock work has become more prevalent because middle managers face greater pressure to lower labor costs and because the managers' bonuses may even be tied to cutting those costs. ***

So it's okay to screw over the workers so the manager gets a good bonus.


46 posted on 11/19/2004 9:53:27 AM PST by CajunConservative
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