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**ANTI-KIM JONG-IL FLYERS STARTING TO APPEAR AROUND N.KOREA: SECRET POLICE CRACKING DOWN**
Sankei Shimbun in Japanese (Tokyo) ^ | 18 November 2004 | AmericanInTokyo

Posted on 11/17/2004 12:50:28 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

Edited on 11/17/2004 1:06:30 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Report from Sankei (Japanese) newspaper (conservative) coming in today (per link).

Said that a number of hand made circulars have been circulating widely around North Korea (Pyongyang, Nampo, Chonjin, Sinuiju), etc. The flyers are by an underground anti-Kim Jong-il group active in North Korea.

Sankei says they support the defector Hwang Jang Yop, who is now in South Korea.

There are several flyers which counter the common DPRK Party myths and deifications about Kim Jong-il, showing Kim as a spoiled aristocrat rather that a man of the people, with the Russian nickname "Yura" who did not even grow up nor was born in North Korea. Driving wedges between Kim and the starving people, commenting on the rich food he eats while people starve. Saying the "Chuche" Ideology of the North is a big farce which merely enslaves the Korean people. Another underground flyer (again hand written and many copies run off) that is making the rounds in North Korea says "Kim Jong-il killed his father Kim il-Sung".

Sankei reports the North Korean Secret Police is mobilizing in an attempt to find out who is doing this. They have re-instituted/re-fortified a civilian registration system in Pyongyang to track citizens with an eye toward cracking down on this type of subversion. The flyers also contain detailed personal information on Kim Jong-il that only those in select positions would know. Accordingly, north Korean defectors theorize that these flyers are gaining some cooperation from some people in positions of power in the NK military or Party (anti-Kim elements emerging?).

Copies of these flyers have been spotted (or made it out to) China and picked up by sources there.

(Developing)


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To: Constantine XIII; RockinRight

If I remember correctly, the name "Nodong" is the designation of the CIA. It's the name of the location the missile was first sighted in.


41 posted on 11/17/2004 1:08:53 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Glad to see this black-hearted freak getting dissed in any form, by anyone.....

You know, this reminds me of the final days of various Roman emperors: "They went under b/c they were above the law. They became less than men b/c power had made them gods."

42 posted on 11/17/2004 1:09:13 PM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: JFK_Lib

Along with a lot of government leaders around this rock we live on! God bless America!


43 posted on 11/17/2004 1:10:01 PM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: EggsAckley

Something seems to be going on in there.


44 posted on 11/17/2004 1:10:23 PM PST by onedoug
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Me, I'd be looking for Chinese fingerprints and a hand-picked successor.


45 posted on 11/17/2004 1:10:30 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Guillermo

You are not allowed to quote Ms. Garafalo on this thread! :-)


46 posted on 11/17/2004 1:15:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Think maybe China had an indication of some looming fate of Kim since they deployed many troops along the PRC/NK border over the past few months? Seems too coincidental, IMO.


47 posted on 11/17/2004 1:15:53 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
AIT, you've got a ringside seat so to speak.

What's your take on this? (Not only what it means, but is it true, as it appears to come from Debka - not exactly an ironclad guarantee of accuracy . . . )

I mentioned on another thread that even after Papa Doc died in Haiti, they didn't take his portraits down for some time (just making sure he was really dead, I guess.)

48 posted on 11/17/2004 1:17:45 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
A quiet Coup d'etat??
49 posted on 11/17/2004 1:21:47 PM PST by msnimje
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To: AnAmericanMother
I think Debka is just feeding off of Western news sources, something we all do.

Debka is no closer to this action than any of us, even bloggers in pajamas on the internet. Nobody can tell me that Debka has researchers or agents in North Korea, either. It is not plagarism, but let's just say they borrow from what is already out there (at least vis a vis the DPRK stuff).

50 posted on 11/17/2004 1:22:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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ITAR-TASS (Russian news agency) is spreading info that his is probably dead because his images are being removed from everywhere..
51 posted on 11/17/2004 1:23:16 PM PST by b2stealth
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To: EggsAckley

If his pictures are down it's a sure sign there's been a coup.


52 posted on 11/17/2004 1:24:20 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: wideawake

This could be a rise of even more hardliners..


53 posted on 11/17/2004 1:24:35 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Earlier thread that didn't get enough attention. (I tried!)


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1280015/posts


54 posted on 11/17/2004 1:24:44 PM PST by aculeus
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To: msnimje
This, IMHO, is just the opening and indeed interesting salvos of some historic shifts in the history of Korea.

A lot of stuff is going on with various who have interest in the Korean peninsula. No doubt the re-election of Bush two weeks ago is the beginning of the beginnning o the tipping point. If Kerry had won, all bets would be off. These things must come first, a trickle perhaps, rays of hope, and then more things afterward, before the big downfall. That might take another year or two, but I think it will be soon in relative terms. (And of course, I hope it is tomorrow, with a stable and friendly alternative put immediately in place). I wouldn't be surprised if he actually commits suicide at some time, but he could be assassinated, or otherwise flee to Europe to a safe haven where 70% of his money probably is anyway.

55 posted on 11/17/2004 1:26:30 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I suppose that the worship of the late dictator Kim Il Sung (yimach shemo vezikhro!) is so ingrained that even dissidents feel the necessity to appeal to his memory (hence the charge that Jong Il killed his father).

These mutligenerational dynasties represent "anti-fascism," people! [/sarcasm] Something tells me that if Mussolini had stuck with his original socialism and took over Italy in its name he'd still be running the place!

56 posted on 11/17/2004 1:27:23 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (G-D'S TORAH defines conservatism.)
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To: MEG33
"This could be a rise of even more hardliners.."

Somehow, I doubt that'll fly too well with an already starving population who often hears rumors of China's prosperity...

At least I hope...

57 posted on 11/17/2004 1:27:44 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
bump!

58 posted on 11/17/2004 1:28:11 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

That's eggsackley what I'm thinking.

1. Bush re-elected
2. Daschle deposed
3. Arafat dead
4. Kim Jong-mentally-ill removed???


59 posted on 11/17/2004 1:28:24 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: azhenfud

There's always hope!


60 posted on 11/17/2004 1:28:50 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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