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The issue is starting to develope a head of steam. Stay tuned.
1 posted on 11/17/2004 8:54:22 AM PST by Ron H.
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To: gubamyster; Joe Hadenuf; janetgreen

A heads up bump for the ping list.


2 posted on 11/17/2004 8:56:39 AM PST by Ron H. (Amnesty, quasi-amnesty or guest worker, its still all the same thing. Amnesty is bad for Americans!)
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We'll see if they have the courage to tell him no when he pushes his illegal agenda full force.


3 posted on 11/17/2004 8:58:42 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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I really don't get Bush's position on this at all.


4 posted on 11/17/2004 8:58:49 AM PST by Maceman (It's no longer a blue world, Max!!)
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To: Ron H.

From what I understand of Bush's plan, he wantes to create a new work visa category for guest workers. The big problem, aside from awarding illegal immigration, is that the visa is temporary and similar to the H1B - 3 years initially and renewable for 3 years. Then you have to leave the country. Thats the problem. even if this program is implemented, what will make those on the program leave after 6 years? Won't they simply return to their illegal status and stay?


5 posted on 11/17/2004 8:59:20 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Dead. Dead. DEAD! Dead on arrival.

Sorry, Mr. President. When you can tell us how you plan to get these folks to "go home" when their visas run out but your people say it simply isn't possible to find them *now* and deport them all, we have to stand firm on this issue.

America deserves a fortified border. Bring back "Operation Gatekeeper" and extend the wall across the entire Southern Border. Employ drones and other high-tech surveillance.

This is a CORNERSTONE of the War on Terror, Mr. President. Get off your ass and do something sensible!

6 posted on 11/17/2004 8:59:55 AM PST by newzjunkey ("The rule of law has become confused with - indeed subverted by - the rule of judges." - Robert Bork)
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In addition to Mr. Gallegly, others to sign the letter were Republican Reps. Lamar Smith, Sam Johnson and John Culberson of Texas, John Hostettler of Indiana, Charlie Norwood and Nathan Deal of Georgia, Ed Royce and Gary G. Miller and Dana Rohrabacher of California, and Tom Tancredo of Colorado.

Also, Reps. John J. "Jimmy" Duncan Jr. of Tennessee, Roscoe G. Bartlett of Maryland, Kevin Brady of Texas, Robert B. Aderholt of Alabama, Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. of Mississippi, John Sullivan of Oklahoma, J. Gresham Barrett of South Carolina, Barbara Cubin of Wyoming, Sue Myrick and Walter B. Jones of North Carolina and Steve King of Iowa.


7 posted on 11/17/2004 9:01:15 AM PST by Ron H. (Amnesty, quasi-amnesty or guest worker, its still all the same thing. Amnesty is bad for Americans!)
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Mexico must respect our sovereignty and our laws, and should encourage its citizens to do the same," Mr. Gallegly said in the letter

The illegals work in the US and send millions of US dollars back to their families in Mexico. Seems like Mexico would have to be incredibly stupid to discourage that.

8 posted on 11/17/2004 9:02:34 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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Read later.


9 posted on 11/17/2004 9:02:41 AM PST by EagleMamaMT
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Added Iowa to the TOPICS list.
In addition to Mr. Gallegly, others to sign the letter were Republican Reps. ... and Steve King of Iowa.

(Steve King for Governor in '06!)

13 posted on 11/17/2004 9:10:44 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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"Cooperation with our close neighbor Mexico is essential, but we also feel that Mexico must respect our sovereignty and our laws, "

BUMP!


15 posted on 11/17/2004 9:19:17 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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Viva Gallegly

Viva Tancredo

Tom Tancredo 2008 = Last Hope to Save America
Tom Tancredo 2008 = Principled Conservative Leadership Money Can't Buy
Tom Tancredo 2008 = True Conservative


18 posted on 11/17/2004 9:24:00 AM PST by nanak
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The US has a guest worker program? Why?


21 posted on 11/17/2004 9:26:57 AM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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"It is our hope that in future discussions with the Mexican government, you will encourage Mexico to do its part to address illegal immigration rather than encourage their citizens to illegally enter the U.S.,"

Mexico refuses to take the hint that Americans are fed up with being forced to support its exported people. Mexico has no intention of stopping the flow - why should they? It's hugely profitable to them at our expense. It will take more than "encouraging Mexico", it will take REAL action on our part.

29 posted on 11/17/2004 10:08:29 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: Ron H.; Budweiser

Bump.


53 posted on 11/17/2004 10:40:53 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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I haven’t checked this out yet, but it may be worth it. I’ve caught this program on late night radio several times, The Mark Edwards Show - Wake up America on KDWN, Las Vegas. Jim Gilcrest with a website, www.minutemanproject.com is organizing people to go to the So. border in April. They plan on shining spot lights and having cameras to document the nightly crossings. They don’t sound like racist whacko’s and they insist on no violence,firearms, etc., but we need to check them out further.

Another caller was talking about the Identity Theft Penalty Enhancement Act, recentlly passed. I'm going to look it up, but the caller said it has provisions to punish employers who knowingly hire illegals with illegal identification. Any lawyers out there have an opinion?


60 posted on 11/17/2004 10:50:49 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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Terrorists might be smuggled into US, says Rumsfeld

The United States is concerned that smuggling routes traditionally used to move illegal aliens into the country “could be used just as easily for terrorists,” US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says.

Speaking ahead of a meeting of defense ministers from North and Latin America, Rumsfeld cautioned that nations in the region must work even harder to improve security ties, including control over jungle and mountain borders and ungoverned areas.

“There is no question that there are terrorist organizations that are functioning in the United States, in North America and in South America and in Central America,”he said, emphasizing violent narcotics cartels, smuggling of people, criminal gangs and hostage-taking for money.

“And from our standpoint, obviously, the risk that some of these human smuggling routes into our country from this hemisphere could be used just as easily for terrorists.”

Rumsfeld did not mention specific routes used to smuggle people into the United States illegally, although some are known to move across the Mexican border and others in small boats and cargo ships.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_17-11-2004_pg4_2

Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld is not in the habit a making idle statements.

Yet, ..... Did not the moronic malfeasant Chief of the U.S. Border Patrol - David Aguilar - just recently tell us that the U.S./Mexico Border was safe and secure?

And did not Tucson Border Patrol Chief Smirkingly Deny Report or Terrorists crossing the border from Mexico into the U.S. in the Tucson Sector?

And did not Tom Ridge state that all was in order: see article below "No Security Necessary on Border of Homeland"

(article)

Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld is not in the habit a making idle statements.

69 posted on 11/17/2004 11:12:37 AM PST by yoe
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There needs to be a plan!
71 posted on 11/17/2004 11:34:17 AM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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Some GOOD illegal alien news ! Thanks !


78 posted on 11/17/2004 12:08:47 PM PST by jimt
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This plan needs to be more than simply defeated. Bush causes damage simply by proposing it, because it encourages border jumpers even further in hopes that they'll get in before any amnesty goes into effect.

What Congress needs to do, more than simply voting this down, is pass a strongly worded resolution declaring that amnesty is not an option and insisting that Bush stop making such proposals. Let it be published in Spanish as well as English.

88 posted on 11/17/2004 2:50:14 PM PST by inquest (Now is the time to remove the leftist influence from the GOP. "Unity" can wait.)
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Go Elton.


94 posted on 11/17/2004 3:41:01 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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