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Need help - Democrat outrage in '70s and '80s.

Posted on 11/17/2004 7:28:09 AM PST by golfboy

I have a lib screaming at me about the Republican "take over" of the entire government, complaining about how the Senate is going to change the rules for a fillibuster.

I remember when we were the minority party, that democrats used to lock us out of debates, and other outragous tactics.

Does anyone else remember these stunts? I'm trying to find links on the web to throw back on these idiots.


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1 posted on 11/17/2004 7:28:09 AM PST by golfboy
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Shoot, Tip the Turkey made Tom Dasshole look like a choir boy.


2 posted on 11/17/2004 7:32:44 AM PST by mnehring (Fear leads to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to the DNC.)
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What happened to their commitment to lose with grace? Now I'm hearing conspiracy theories about Republicans stealing the vote. The exit polls were showing a win for the Dems. Because the votes actually went Republican that is suppose to indicate wrongdoing. Has anyone else been hearing this nonsense. I mean what does the nation have to do to convince these liberals - give Republicans a 10 million vote lead?
3 posted on 11/17/2004 7:32:51 AM PST by Lord Nelson
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Kick his a$$ junior!! This ain't Dr. Laura!


4 posted on 11/17/2004 7:33:23 AM PST by johnny7 (“We blowed 'em up real good!” -John Candy & Joe Flaherty, SCTV)
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After the GOP took a Senate majority in '02 some coworkers were bemoaning the fact that Repubs controlled "all 3 branches of government." Of course they meant the presidency and both houses of Congress. In any case they thought there should be some kind of balance. I asked if they had these same reservations when the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress, and the presidency. They didn't have much of an answer.


5 posted on 11/17/2004 7:33:42 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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Look up some articles from 1995 when the Republicans took over the House. They made some sweeping rules changes to get rid of some very anti-democratic tactics the Democrats used all the time. One of the biggest was the elimination of proxy voting - under the Democrats, bills could be voted out of committee even if only one Democrat member was in attendance, because that member would have everyone else's proxy and would vote for them. Now the members actually have to show up to vote on bills. It has made a big difference in the quality of legislation.

And of course, the Republicans also instituted term limits for committee chairs. Previously, you had dinosaurs like Henry Gonzalez and John Dingell chairing committees for decades. The problem with that is that older members usually do not reflect the dominant politics of the time, which changes over the years. So you most senior Democrats would be much more liberal, and your senior Republicans would be more moderate than their respective caucuses as a whole. Without term limits, we would have had liberal Jim Leach or Doug Bereuter chairing the House Financial Services Committee for the last 4 years instead of the conservative Mike Oxley, for example.

6 posted on 11/17/2004 7:35:38 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Proud Reagan Alumna!)
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Well I remember stories of the Repub Minority leader being great at golf, because he didn't have anything to do. The repubs were seat warmers. Ask Dornan.


7 posted on 11/17/2004 7:35:50 AM PST by marty60
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The rules of filibuster have been changed throughout history. Its SUPPOSED to be when someone gets up and talks and talks without stopping. This is supposed to kill or amend legislation.

This is not supposed to be used to delay the confirmation of judges, but that is what the democracy-hating democrats are doing. It should only take 51 votes in the senate to confirm a judge. But because the democrats are filibustering, it really takes 60 to confirm the judge. This is unconstitutional. Now add to the fact that nowadays the rules for filibuster are more lenient, then the Republicans have no choice but to change the rules becuase the democrats keep breaking them.

8 posted on 11/17/2004 7:51:07 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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Does anyone else remember these stunts? I'm trying to find links on the web to throw back on these idiots

Waste of time. Its like trying to argue religion with an atheist.

9 posted on 11/17/2004 7:54:11 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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"Waste of time. Its like trying to argue religion with an atheist."

Funny, I have THAT argument with them too!


10 posted on 11/17/2004 8:01:32 AM PST by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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--I sure remember it, but don't have any links. One of the usual tricks ( and a small one) was to schedule hearings on the annual gun control bill at the same time as the NRA convention---

They also made sure committees had a two-thirds majority of Demotraitors and RINOs to be absolutely sure of control of both main legislation and amendments--

11 posted on 11/17/2004 8:03:17 AM PST by rellimpank
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Remember the demoncRATS controlled the House of Representatives for 50 years until 1994 when pubbies made the "Contract With America" and won control of the House. Remember also that shortly after the elder Bush lost the '92 election after being stabbed in the back by the demoncRATS while trying to reach out a negotiating hand, Tom Foley then Speaker of the House laughed heartily in the press and indicated that the Prez couldn't even send to Congress a budget because it was ALWAYS DOA.


12 posted on 11/17/2004 8:09:17 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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"Waste of time. Its like trying to argue religion with an atheist."
Athiest
"I don't believe in God."
Reply
"God doesn't believe in athiests."
Liberal
"Republicans stole the election again."
Reply
"Beleve what you want. George W. Bush is in the White House. Again! Oh, and, by the way, YOU LOST AGAIN."

13 posted on 11/17/2004 8:23:01 AM PST by boycottliberalhollywood.com (www.boycottliberalhollywood.com - www.twoamericas.us)
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Just explain it with the Golden Rule. Those with the gold rule. Deal with it!
14 posted on 11/17/2004 8:38:48 AM PST by ORECON (Condi Rice/Ann Coulter - 2008)
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