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Should Canada indict Bush? (Moronic Kanuckistani Hurl Alert!)
Toronto Star ^ | Nov. 16, 2004 | Thomas Walkom

Posted on 11/16/2004 10:57:11 AM PST by GMMAC

TORONTO red-STAR Nov. 16, 2004

SHOULD CANADA INDICT BUSH?

THOMAS WALKOM

When U.S. President George W. Bush arrives in Ottawa — probably later this year — should he be welcomed? Or should he be charged with war crimes?

It's an interesting question. On the face of it, Bush seems a perfect candidate for prosecution under Canada's Crimes against Humanity and War Crimes Act.

This act was passed in 2000 to bring Canada's ineffectual laws in line with the rules of the new International Criminal Court. While never tested, it lays out sweeping categories under which a foreign leader like Bush could face arrest.

In particular, it holds that anyone who commits a war crime, even outside Canada, may be prosecuted by our courts. What is a war crime? According to the statute, it is any conduct defined as such by "customary international law" or by conventions that Canada has adopted.

War crimes also specifically include any breach of the 1949 Geneva Conventions, such as torture, degradation, wilfully depriving prisoners of war of their rights "to a fair and regular trial," launching attacks "in the knowledge that such attacks will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians" and deportation of persons from an area under occupation.

Outside of one well-publicized (and quickly squelched) attempt in Belgium, no one has tried to formally indict Bush. But both Oxfam International and the U.S. group Human Rights Watch have warned that some of the actions undertaken by the U.S. and its allies, particularly in Iraq, may fall under the war crime rubric.

The case for the prosecution looks quite promising. First, there is the fact of the Iraq war itself. After 1945, Allied tribunals in Nuremberg and Tokyo — in an astonishing precedent — ruled that states no longer had the unfettered right to invade other countries and that leaders who started such conflicts could be tried for waging illegal war.

Concurrently, the new United Nations outlawed all aggressive wars except those authorized by its Security Council.

Today, a strong case could be made that Bush violated the Nuremberg principles by invading Iraq. Indeed, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has already labelled that war illegal in terms of the U.N. Charter.

Second, there is the manner in which the U.S. conducted this war.

The mistreatment of prisoners at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison is a clear contravention of the Geneva Accord. The U.S. is also deporting selected prisoners to camps outside of Iraq (another contravention). U.S. press reports also talk of shadowy prisons in Jordan run by the CIA, where suspects are routinely tortured. And the estimated civilian death toll of 100,000 may well contravene the Geneva Accords prohibition against the use of excessive force.

Canada's war crimes law specifically permits prosecution not only of those who carry out such crimes but of the military and political superiors who allow them to happen.

What has emerged since Abu Ghraib shows that officials at the highest levels of the Bush administration permitted and even encouraged the use of torture.

Given that Bush, as he likes to remind everyone, is the U.S. military's commander-in-chief, it is hard to argue he bears no responsibility.

Then there is Guantanamo Bay. The U.S. says detainees there do not fall under the Geneva accords. That's an old argument.

In 1946, Japanese defendants explained their mistreatment of prisoners of war by noting that their country had never signed any of the Geneva Conventions. The Japanese were convicted anyway.

Oddly enough, Canada may be one of the few places where someone like Bush could be brought to justice. Impeachment in the U.S. is most unlikely. And, at Bush's insistence, the new international criminal court has no jurisdiction over any American.

But a Canadian war crimes charge, too, would face many hurdles. Bush was furious last year when Belgians launched a war crimes suit in their country against him — so furious that Belgium not only backed down under U.S. threats but changed its law to prevent further recurrences.

As well, according to a foreign affairs spokesperson, visiting heads of state are immune from prosecution when in Canada on official business. If Ottawa wanted to act, it would have to wait until Bush was out of office — or hope to catch him when he comes up here to fish.

And, of course, Canada's government would have to want to act. War crimes prosecutions are political decisions that must be authorized by the federal attorney-general.

Still, Prime Minister Paul Martin has staked out his strong opposition to war crimes. This was his focus in a September address to the U.N. General Assembly.

There, Martin was talking specifically about war crimes committed by militiamen in far-off Sudan. But as my friends on the Star's editorial board noted in one of their strong defences of concerted international action against war crimes, the rule must be, "One law for all."

Thomas Walkom writes every Tuesday.
twalkom@thestar.ca.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada; dumb; dumber; dumbest; icc; justdoit; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; torontostar; wot
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Dear American FReepers,
Please use this moronic, presumptuous piece of leftist garbage as an excuse to bash all Canadians only if you're entirely certain that your own domestic commies aren't now spewing similar crap.

Thanks - your anticipated co-operation is appreciated.

Note: the red-Star is roughly Kanuckistan's version of the New York Times
1 posted on 11/16/2004 10:57:11 AM PST by GMMAC
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To: GMMAC

Make our day, punks!


2 posted on 11/16/2004 10:58:18 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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To: GMMAC

3 posted on 11/16/2004 10:58:41 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: GMMAC

Are Canadians trying to become the 51st state?


4 posted on 11/16/2004 10:59:43 AM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: GMMAC

Should Canada F... Off?

I say a big Yep-aruni.


5 posted on 11/16/2004 10:59:54 AM PST by dinok
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To: GMMAC

I think that they would have a really hard time putting the cuffs on him.


6 posted on 11/16/2004 11:00:01 AM PST by Sthitch
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To: GMMAC

Should we invade Canada, only need around 100 troops, and turn it into a Walmart parking lot?


7 posted on 11/16/2004 11:00:24 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: GMMAC

We double-dog-dare ya!!!


8 posted on 11/16/2004 11:00:37 AM PST by rhc2000
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To: GMMAC

If it wasn't for the fact that I can't eat pizza without Can. bacon and my favorite beer is Moosehead, I'd be finished with the Canadians. At least until a more reasonable party gains control of the out of control leftists that currently run the country.


9 posted on 11/16/2004 11:00:42 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: Freepdonia
NO WAY, TO Many Liberals.... Imagine...The Majority would vote for sKerry...pretty scary
10 posted on 11/16/2004 11:00:51 AM PST by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Thank you America)
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To: GMMAC

This is like the Vichy French indicting FDR for war crimes.


11 posted on 11/16/2004 11:01:00 AM PST by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: GMMAC

I don't think Mr. Bush has shown us the proper respect.
Let's get him King!


12 posted on 11/16/2004 11:01:13 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: GMMAC

This is obviously a cry for help. The author secretly wants to be the part of the U.S.

The military pouring in to rescue our President might not leave much left to annex, however.


13 posted on 11/16/2004 11:01:30 AM PST by Politicalmom ( Since Bush was selected in 2000, shouldn't he be able to run again in 2008?)
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To: GMMAC

I dare them to. Capture the US President, say goodbye to Canada


14 posted on 11/16/2004 11:01:30 AM PST by kanecorp
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To: GMMAC
Bush was furious last year when Belgians launched a war crimes suit in their country against him

I imagine he was so furious that he laughed his @$$ off.

15 posted on 11/16/2004 11:01:50 AM PST by TheBigB (Baby, baby, don't get hooked on me....)
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[singing] Hold on, we're comin', hold on, we're comin'...
16 posted on 11/16/2004 11:01:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

Good point. :-0


17 posted on 11/16/2004 11:01:55 AM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: GMMAC
Dear Thomas Walkom:


18 posted on 11/16/2004 11:02:03 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: GMMAC
And we'll arrest the entire country for impersonating a rational country.
19 posted on 11/16/2004 11:03:06 AM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: GMMAC
Please use this moronic, presumptuous piece of leftist garbage as an excuse to bash all Canadians only if you're entirely certain that your own domestic commies aren't now spewing similar crap.

Excellent point. I know some very fine Canadians, who live mostly in Western Canada, and they grow just as frustrated with their mouth-breathing liberal class as we do down here.

20 posted on 11/16/2004 11:03:48 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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