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Matthews: Insurgents are "Not Bad Guys", "Rivals", "Just Disagree"
MSNBC ^ | Updated: 10:19 a.m. ET Nov. 16, 2004 | Chris Matthews

Posted on 11/16/2004 8:49:40 AM PST by ironman

From Hardball Monday Nov 15, 2004:

MATTHEWS: Well, let me ask you about this. If this were the other side, and we were watching an enemy soldier, a rival-I mean, they‘re not bad guys, especially—just people that disagree with it. They‘re in fact the insurgents fighting us in their country.

If we saw one of them do what we saw our guy do to that guy, would we consider that worthy of a war crimes charge?

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Please correct me and tell me that I am misunderstanding Matthews point. He seems equate the enemy soldier to being merely a rival, and labels the insurgents as not bad guys since they merely disagree with us.
1 posted on 11/16/2004 8:49:40 AM PST by ironman
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To: ironman

No, he is really as stupid as he sounds.


2 posted on 11/16/2004 8:51:53 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000 (Pajama Blogger Since 2002)
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To: ironman

These people are incurable. It's that simple. Liberalism is a terminal illness for the soul.


3 posted on 11/16/2004 8:53:00 AM PST by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: ironman

Who knows, I wouldn't even call what we are fighting "soldiers".

Soldiers are uniformed, and follow Rules of Engagement.

These guys are dressed in civilian clothes, pretend surrender, boobytrap wounded, hide behind civilians, intentionally target civilians, and all this garbage.

Maybe Matthews meant IF we were fighting "soliders", a rival, not "bad guys" (like we are).. THEN what would you say about it.

Of course it woudl be a hypothetical since we are not fighting a 'rival' we are fighting pure EVIL.


4 posted on 11/16/2004 8:53:23 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (2)
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To: ironman
And, he presumes that our soldiers regularly "play dead" to lure the enemy closer and then blow themselves up, or start sparying the vincinity with bullets.

Frankly, when anyone presumes to utilize those sorts of tactics, they fundamentally abdicate any claims to protections under the "rules of war".

Matthews is a nitwit. And if you hadn't watched him last night, his audience would have been cut by well over 30%

5 posted on 11/16/2004 8:54:05 AM PST by steve in DC
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To: ironman

Matthews is a socialist schill.

He also seems to think all the 'insurgents' are Iraqi, even tho most of the press, (at least in Iraq) are saying they are FOREIGN terrorists.

Most of those captured are from outside the country.


6 posted on 11/16/2004 8:54:06 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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If we saw one of them do what we saw our guy do to that guy...

Hey Christine! They have been using white flags pretending to surrender. They have been planting IEDs in dead bodies, they have been beheading innocent men and women, they gutted a woman and chopped off her legs, they shot and killed many US soldiers they had captured.

Christine, get a life you idiot! You disgust me.


7 posted on 11/16/2004 8:54:18 AM PST by BushisTheMan
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"Please correct me and tell me that I am misunderstanding Matthews point."

Sorry, can't help you with this one. You understand him perfectly. I heard this last night. It propelled me right out of my chair. They are NOT bad guys??? They blow up and behead the innocent. They want the deaths of not just our military, but all of us. Nice to know which side Matthews is on.

8 posted on 11/16/2004 8:54:41 AM PST by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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I guess the "insurgents" reaaly must have disagreed with the woman they kidnapped awhile back. She had her arms and legs cut off, her face mutilated and her throat cut.

But...they're nt bad guys


9 posted on 11/16/2004 8:54:45 AM PST by Republican Red (A Global Freak'n Test ???????)
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To: ironman

Mathews certainly seems to have some sympathy for terrorists. So I won't spend too much time trying to understand exactly what point he's trying to make in this case -- it doesn't really matter.


10 posted on 11/16/2004 8:55:12 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: Rutles4Ever
Liberalism is a terminal illness for the soul.

At the very least, it's a serious mental illness.

11 posted on 11/16/2004 8:55:13 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: ironman

Well, to give Matthews a break, his mouth is always running ten times faster than his brain. He probably doesn't even know what he said or meant.


12 posted on 11/16/2004 8:55:41 AM PST by Rokurota (.)
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To: ironman

Chrissy is a POS coward....he loves to degrade our heroes....


13 posted on 11/16/2004 8:56:38 AM PST by mystery-ak (This military family thanks America for re-electing our CinC)
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"If we saw one of them do what we saw our guy do to that guy, would we consider that worthy of a war crimes charge?"

How about televised beheadings? How about the torture chambers our troops found? And the torture victims? Why does he raise their criminality as a hypothetical? What is wrong with this man?


14 posted on 11/16/2004 8:56:57 AM PST by Spok
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To: ironman

Hey, it's just like a football game, right? Right?

Maybe Chrissy should be embedded?


15 posted on 11/16/2004 8:57:55 AM PST by eyespysomething (14 days out, and the Dems still don't get it.)
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To: ironman

I wonder if those that have been beheaded agree with Matthews' point. Thank God, liberals are no longer in power. The more they speak, the more it is understood they must be kept in their "time-out" and the adults need to stay in charge.


16 posted on 11/16/2004 8:58:12 AM PST by Two-Bits (God Bless America and those that love her)
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To: Bahbah

"I heard this last night. It propelled me right out of my chair."

It really caught my attention to and I was waiting for the transcript to be posted to read exactly what he said.


17 posted on 11/16/2004 8:58:25 AM PST by ironman
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To: ironman

In that case let Chris go over, and allow himself to be taken hostage/guest until the disageement can be worked out. How long before his head is seperated from his torso?


18 posted on 11/16/2004 8:58:57 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: ironman
Good God. What an absolute loser.

People can't be this stupid ..... can they? Especially after 911.

Oh, but wait, I live in Canada where we have MPs improperly shooting their mouths off over the elected leader of the free world.

Maybe one of these terrorists needs to cut of the head of Matthews' mother and then maybe, just maybe, he might get it.

19 posted on 11/16/2004 8:59:11 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: ironman
Matthews is about as irrelevant as anyone on TV can be. Almost as irrelevant as his compatriot, Olbermann.

You have to understand, the leftists are in full meltdown mode at this point. They'll do or say ANYthing anti-American to try to win over what they see as "their" demographic. If Matthews were hosting a popular show, it would be a tad dangerous and scary, but since he's on MSNBC with an audience of, oh, 50,000 a night, he really isn't hurting much.

Matthews is sad, pathetic, useless, a poor excuse for a human being, and generally a waste of oxygen. But he's not harmful, unless someone were to injure themselves by dislocating a finger while pointing and laughing at him.

20 posted on 11/16/2004 9:00:03 AM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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