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Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory
BBC News Online Magazine ^ | 11/13/2004 | Jonathan Duffy

Posted on 11/15/2004 12:28:11 PM PST by Jack Black

Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory

By Jonathan Duffy BBC News Online Magazine

The Bilderberg group, an elite coterie of Western thinkers and power-brokers, has been accused of fixing the fate of the world behind closed doors. As the organisation marks its 50th anniversary, rumours are more rife than ever. Given its reputation as perhaps the most powerful organisation in the world, the Bilderberg group doesn't go a bundle on its switchboard operations.

Telephone inquiries are met with an impersonal female voice - the Dutch equivalent of the BT Callminder woman - reciting back the number and inviting callers to "leave a message after the tone".

Anyone who accidentally dialled the number would probably think they had stumbled on just another residential answer machine.

Leiden in Holland, the inauspicious base of the Bilderberg group But behind this ultra-modest façade lies one of the most controversial and hotly-debated alliances of our times.

On Thursday the Bilderberg group marks its 50th anniversary with the start of its yearly meeting.

For four days some of the West's chief political movers, business leaders, bankers, industrialists and strategic thinkers will hunker down in a five-star hotel in northern Italy to talk about global issues.

What sets Bilderberg apart from other high-powered get-togethers, such as the annual World Economic Forum (WEF), is its mystique.

Not a word of what is said at Bilderberg meetings can be breathed outside. No reporters are invited in and while confidential minutes of meetings are taken, names are not noted.

The shadowy aura extends further - the anonymous answerphone message, for example; the fact that conference venues are kept secret. The group, which includes luminaries such as Henry Kissinger and former UK chancellor Kenneth Clarke, does not even have a website.

DISCREET AND ELITE This year Bilderberg has announced a list of attendees They include BP chief John Browne, US Senator John Edwards, World Bank president James Wolfensohn and Mrs Bill Gates

In the void created by such aloofness, an extraordinary conspiracy theory has grown up around the group that alleges the fate of the world is largely decided by Bilderberg.

In Yugoslavia, leading Serbs have blamed Bilderberg for triggering the war which led to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic. The Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the London nail-bomber David Copeland and Osama Bin Laden are all said to have bought into the theory that Bilderberg pulls the strings with which national governments dance.

And while hardline right-wingers and libertarians accuse Bilderberg of being a liberal Zionist plot, leftists such as activist Tony Gosling are equally critical.

A former journalist, Mr Gosling runs a campaign against the group from his home in Bristol, UK.

"My main problem is the secrecy. When so many people with so much power get together in one place I think we are owed an explanation of what is going on.

Timothy McVeigh was among those who believed the conspiracy theory Mr Gosling seizes on a quote from Will Hutton, the British economist and a former Bilderberg delegate, who likened it to the annual WEF gathering where "the consensus established is the backdrop against which policy is made worldwide".

"One of the first places I heard about the determination of US forces to attack Iraq was from leaks that came out of the 2002 Bilderberg meeting," says Mr Gosling.

But "privacy, rather than secrecy", is key to such a meeting says Financial Times journalist Martin Wolf, who has been invited several times in a non-reporting role.

"The idea that such meetings cannot be held in private is fundamentally totalitarian," he says. "It's not an executive body; no decisions are taken there."

As an up-and-coming statesmen in the 1950s, Denis Healey, who went on to become a Labour chancellor, was one of the four founding members of Bilderberg (which was named after the hotel in Holland where the first meeting was held in 1954).

The alternative - the WEF welcomes journalists His response to claims that Bilderberg exerts a shadowy hand on the global tiller is met with characteristic bluntness. "Crap!"

"There's absolutely nothing in it. We never sought to reach a consensus on the big issues at Bilderberg. It's simply a place for discussion," says Lord Healey.

Formed in the spirit of post-war trans-Atlantic co-operation, the idea behind Bilderberg was that future wars could be prevented by bringing power-brokers together in an informal setting away from prying eyes.

"Bilderberg is the most useful international group I ever attended. The confidentiality enabled people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions.

"In my experience the most useful meetings are those when one is free to speak openly and honestly. It's not unusual at all. Cabinet meetings in all countries are held behind closed doors and the minutes are not published."

That activists have seized on Bilderberg is no surprise to Alasdair Spark, an expert in conspiracy theories.

"The idea that a shadowy clique is running the world is nothing new. For hundreds of years people have believed the world is governed by a cabal of Jews.

"Shouldn't we expect that the rich and powerful organise things in their own interests. It's called capitalism."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: bilderberg; conspiracy; conspiracytheory; edwards; gates; jbs; newworldorder; nwo; richpeople; tinfoilhat
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To: GOPJ
Mike Dell's a regular.

I gotta go with the Masons for secret Global dominance, though.

101 posted on 11/16/2004 9:14:45 PM PST by txhurl
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To: CWOJackson
To me it's far more plausible then plotting taking over the world. Even the ominous like to let down their hair and relax with their own.

Frankly, I suspect underhanded dealing in anything shrouded in secrecy involving enormously wealthy and powerful men. This may be a form of paranoia.

There is one thing unarguably true. If I am wrong on my end, and these meeting are just harmless bridge games, then our world is safe. If I am right on my end, and others are alerted to nefarious dealings of these men, then our world has a chance of surviving their alleged mechanisms. Those that doeth evil hateth the light.

If you are right on your end, then our world is safe. However, if you are wrong, and you succeed in convincing others to be as gullible, then a lot of pain may come to all.

I'd rather see a future history in which I am wrong than one where you are wrong.

In politics, it is always healthy to be cynical and it is always disastrous to be trusting.

There are no exceptions to that rule.

102 posted on 11/17/2004 6:54:49 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
"This may be a form of paranoia."

It is.

103 posted on 11/17/2004 11:11:10 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Revolting cat!
Bildeburger?

HA!
It can't compare to a mouth-watering Krabby Patty!


104 posted on 11/17/2004 11:46:06 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (America's shining sun is Conservatism)
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To: CWOJackson
It is.

Yes, cynicism is a form of paranoia. Regarding politics, cynicism is robust mental health. Any attitude less is gullibility.

105 posted on 11/17/2004 4:05:09 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

Funny, I always associate gullibility with excessively paranoid people.


106 posted on 11/17/2004 4:06:56 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Cogadh na Sith
John Edwards and Bill Gates wife. Real heavyweights there....

Every porn set needs a few "fluffers".

107 posted on 11/17/2004 4:25:44 PM PST by Freebird Forever (Next time shoot the cameramen first.)
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To: Freebird Forever
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Good one.... You win!

108 posted on 11/17/2004 5:48:38 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: CWOJackson
Funny, I always associate gullibility with excessively paranoid people.

Cynicism is only a form of paranoia, certainly not excessive. But think about it. How could any form of paranoia lead to gullibility?

Lay out your logical progression from one state of mind to the other and you'll see the flaw in your reasoning.

109 posted on 11/18/2004 6:14:05 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Look at you, you're gullible enough to believe these silly conspiracy theories...and are are obviously paranoid.
110 posted on 11/18/2004 11:30:16 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Look at you, you're gullible enough to believe these silly conspiracy theories...and are are obviously paranoid.

You mean the silly conspiracy theory that this group of people get together to discuss world affairs, and will not be content with discussing? That is commonsense.

What is gullible is that this group of people get together under much expense and secrecy to hobnob and play bridge.

111 posted on 11/18/2004 2:43:59 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

Unlike some they might actually enjoy a life.


112 posted on 11/18/2004 2:44:38 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Jack Black
LeidenTimothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma bomber, is led away from courtCrowds gather in Davos

113 posted on 01/02/2005 7:34:47 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 125,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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The Bilderberg group, an elite coterie of Western thinkers and power-brokers, has been accused of fixing the fate of the world behind closed doors. As the organisation marks its 50th anniversary, rumours are more rife than ever.

Given its reputation as perhaps the most powerful organisation in the world, the Bilderberg group doesn't go a bundle on its switchboard operations.

Telephone inquiries are met with an impersonal female voice - the Dutch equivalent of the BT Callminder woman - reciting back the number and inviting callers to "leave a message after the tone".

Anyone who accidentally dialled the number would probably think they had stumbled on just another residential answer machine.

Leiden
Leiden in Holland, the inauspicious base of the Bilderberg group
But behind this ultra-modest façade lies one of the most controversial and hotly-debated alliances of our times.

On Thursday the Bilderberg group marks its 50th anniversary with the start of its yearly meeting.

For four days some of the West's chief political movers, business leaders, bankers, industrialists and strategic thinkers will hunker down in a five-star hotel in northern Italy to talk about global issues.

What sets Bilderberg apart from other high-powered get-togethers, such as the annual World Economic Forum (WEF), is its mystique.

Not a word of what is said at Bilderberg meetings can be breathed outside. No reporters are invited in and while confidential minutes of meetings are taken, names are not noted.

The shadowy aura extends further - the anonymous answerphone message, for example; the fact that conference venues are kept secret. The group, which includes luminaries such as Henry Kissinger and former UK chancellor Kenneth Clarke, does not even have a website.

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DISCREET AND ELITE
This year Bilderberg has announced a list of attendees
They include BP chief John Browne, US Senator John Edwards, World Bank president James Wolfensohn and Mrs Bill Gates

In the void created by such aloofness, an extraordinary conspiracy theory has grown up around the group that alleges the fate of the world is largely decided by Bilderberg.

In Yugoslavia, leading Serbs have blamed Bilderberg for triggering the war which led to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic. The Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the London nail-bomber David Copeland and Osama Bin Laden are all said to have bought into the theory that Bilderberg pulls the strings with which national governments dance.

And while hardline right-wingers and libertarians accuse Bilderberg of being a liberal Zionist plot, leftists such as activist Tony Gosling are equally critical.

A former journalist, Mr Gosling runs a campaign against the group from his home in Bristol, UK.

"My main problem is the secrecy. When so many people with so much power get together in one place I think we are owed an explanation of what is going on.

Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma bomber, is led away from court
Timothy McVeigh was among those who believed the conspiracy theory
Mr Gosling seizes on a quote from Will Hutton, the British economist and a former Bilderberg delegate, who likened it to the annual WEF gathering where "the consensus established is the backdrop against which policy is made worldwide".

"One of the first places I heard about the determination of US forces to attack Iraq was from leaks that came out of the 2002 Bilderberg meeting," says Mr Gosling.

But "privacy, rather than secrecy", is key to such a meeting says Financial Times journalist Martin Wolf, who has been invited several times in a non-reporting role.

"The idea that such meetings cannot be held in private is fundamentally totalitarian," he says. "It's not an executive body; no decisions are taken there."

As an up-and-coming statesmen in the 1950s, Denis Healey, who went on to become a Labour chancellor, was one of the four founding members of Bilderberg (which was named after the hotel in Holland where the first meeting was held in 1954).

Crowds gather in Davos
The alternative - the WEF welcomes journalists
His response to claims that Bilderberg exerts a shadowy hand on the global tiller is met with characteristic bluntness. "Crap!"

"There's absolutely nothing in it. We never sought to reach a consensus on the big issues at Bilderberg. It's simply a place for discussion," says Lord Healey.

Formed in the spirit of post-war trans-Atlantic co-operation, the idea behind Bilderberg was that future wars could be prevented by bringing power-brokers together in an informal setting away from prying eyes.

"Bilderberg is the most useful international group I ever attended. The confidentiality enabled people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions.

"In my experience the most useful meetings are those when one is free to speak openly and honestly. It's not unusual at all. Cabinet meetings in all countries are held behind closed doors and the minutes are not published."

That activists have seized on Bilderberg is no surprise to Alasdair Spark, an expert in conspiracy theories.

"The idea that a shadowy clique is running the world is nothing new. For hundreds of years people have believed the world is governed by a cabal of Jews.

"Shouldn't we expect that the rich and powerful organise things in their own interests. It's called capitalism."

114 posted on 01/02/2005 7:38:47 PM PST by Coleus (Keep Christ in Christmas, Christmas is part of our Western Civilization and is a US Holiday for ALL)
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The Bilderberg Group

“The Invisible Power House”

 

(Unofficial and incomplete list of Bilderberg participants)

Stenungsbaden, Sweden

May 24-27, 2001

 

1.             Allaire, Paul A. - USA, Chairman, Xerox

2.             Andersen, Bodil Nyboe - Denmark, Governor, Central Bank of Denmark

3.             Balls, Ed - UK, Spads, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Chief Economic Adviser

4.             Balsemão, Francisco Pinto - Portugal, Professor of Communication Science, New University of Lisbon; Chairman, Impresa SGPS;  Former Prime Minister.

5.             Barnevik, Percy - Sweden, Chairman, Investor AB and ABB (Asea Brown Boveri Ltd.)

6.             Bergesen, Jr. Finn - Norway, Administrative director, NHO (Confederation of Norwegian Business and Industry)

7.             Bernabè, Franco - Italy, International Board of the World Economic Forum; Special Representative of the Government of Italy to the Balkan, Board member of Peres Center for Peace (President  - Uri Savir).

8.             Beytout, Nicolas - France, Editor -in -Chief, Les Echos

9.             Black, Conrad M. - Canada, Chairman, Telegraph Group Ltd.

10.         Bon, Michel - France, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of France Télécom

11.         Bruton, John - Irland, Leader, Fine Gael

12.         Burda, Hubert - Germany, Publisher, Burda Verlag (magazines)

13.         Burgmans, Anthony - Netherlands, C.E.O, Unilever 

14.         Cebrián, Juan L. - Spain, VC, Sogecable, S.A. (TV Broadcasting)

15.         Collomb, Bertrand - France, Chairman and Chief Executive of Lafarge; Director, Total Fina Elf Group (petroleum & chemicals), Atco; Supervisory Board, Allianz; Board of Directors, Credit Commercial de France

16.         Couchepin, Pascal - Switzerland, head of the Swiss Federal Department of Public Economy, (Swiss Federal Councillor)

17.         Courtis, Kenneth S. - Canada, Vice President for Asia of Goldman Sachs, Inc.; International Research Council of the Center for International and Strategic Studies (CSIS) in Washington and Economic Strategy Institute in Washington.

18.         Cot, Pat

19.         Dam, Kenneth S. - USA, Deputy Secretary at Treasury, Council on Foreign Relations (New York)

20.         Etienne Davignon - Chairman, Société Générale de Belgique, Former Vice Chairman of the Commission of the European Communities

21.         David, George A. - Greece, Chairman, Hellenic Bottling Company SA.

22.         Dodd, Christopher J. - USA, Senator, D, Connecticut

23.         Donilon, Thomas E. - USA, Executive Vice President, FannieMae

24.         Draghi, Mario - Italy, President of the Economic and Financial Committee, Council of the EU - Director General of the Treasury

25.         Eisenhower, Susan  - Tufts University, Asst. Director, Communications and Media Studies

26.         Eldrup, Anders - Denmark, Finance Minister;  Danish government representative to SAS (airlines)

27.         Ergel, Gazi - Turkey, Merkez Bank

28.         Feldstein, Martin - USA, professor of economic at Harvard University; President, National Bureau of Economic Research.

29.         Fischer, Franz - E.U. Commissioner for Agriculture and Rural Development, European Commission

30.         Glickman, Dan - USA, Former Secretary of Agriculture

31.         Graham, Donald E. - USA, Publisher, Washington Post

32.         Gros-Pietro, Gian Maria - Italy, Chairman, ENI S.p.A.( Italian energy group)

33.         Hagel, Chuck - USA, Senator, Nebraska

34.         Halberstadt, Victor - Netherlands, Professor of Public Economics, Leiden University

35.         Hedelius, Tom - Sweden, Chairman, Svenska Handelsbanken; Vice Chairman of the Board, Ericsson

36.         Heinonen, Olli-Pekka - Finland, Minister of Transport and Communications

37.         Heyerdahl, J.

38.         Höegh, Westye - Norway, Chairman of the Board, Leif Hoegh & Co ASA

39.         Hoeven, C. H.

40.         Hunkin, John - Canada, Chairman and C.E.O., Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce

41.         Huyghebaerth, Jan - Belgium, Almanij NV

42.         Johansson, Leif - Sweden, C.E.O., Volvo

43.         Johnson, James A. - USA, Johnson Capital

44.         Jordan Jr., Vernon E. - USA, Senior Partner, Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Field

45.         Kissinger, Henry A. - USA, Kissinger Associates; Former Secretary of State

46.         Jack Sheinkman - Chairman of the Board, Amalgamated Bank

47.         Kopper, Hilmar - Germany, Chairman of Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank

48.         Kravis, Henry R. - USA, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts

49.         Lamy, Pascal - International, EU, European Commissioner

50.         Lévy-Lang, André - France, Former Chairman Paribas

51.         Lewis, Bernard - USA, Emeritus Professor of Near Eastern History, Princeton University

52.         Lipponen, Paavo - Finland, Prime Minister

53.         Lord Bernard Weatherill - UK, former Speaker of the House of Commons, Convenor of the Cross -Bench Peers

54.         MacMillan, Margareth - UK, Dean, University of Newcastle

55.         Manos, Stephanos - Greece, Member of the Greek Parliament & Former Minister of National Economy; President of the Liberal Party

56.         Martins, G d’O.

57.         Mathews, Jessica T. - USA, Carnegie Endowment

58.         Melkert, Ramonde

59.         deMontbrial, Thierry - France, French Institute of International Relations

60.         Monti, Mario - Italy, EU - Commissioner for Competition (internal market, financial services, financial integration, customs, taxation)

61.         Mosdorf, Siegmar - Germany, Minister of Science and Technology; Parlimentary Secretary of State

62.         Moskow, Michael H. - USA, President , Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago

63.         Moura, Vasco Graça, EU, 1st Vice President, Committee on Culture, Youth, Education, the Media and Sport

64.         Monroe-Blum, Heather  - Canada, Vice-President for Research and International Affairs, University of Toronto

65.         Nashashibi, Mohammed - Finance Minister for Palestine Authority

66.         Nass, Mattias - Germany, Deputy Editor, Die Zeit

67.         Olechowski, Andrzej - Poland, former presidential candidate

68.         Ollila, Jorma - Finland, President and C.E.O., Nokia Corporation; Member of the board of directors, Ford Motor Company and UPM-Kymmene (large timber/paper company)

69.         Ospel, Marcel - Switzerland, President & Group Chief executive, Union Bank Of Switzerland (UBS - total assets $ 1,1 Trillion)

70.         Padoa-Schioppa, Tommaso - Italy, President of the International Center for Monetary and Banking Studies; Member of the G -7 & G -20 Deputies; Chairman of the G -10 Committee on Payments and Settlement Systems

71.         Padgrotsky, Leif - Sweden, Trade Minister

72.         Pearl, H. Frank - USA, Chairman & C.E.O of Perseus; Founder & Chairman, Rappahannock Investment Company and Counterpoint Press.

73.         Pehe, Jiri - Czech Republic, former advisor to President Havel

74.         Perle, Richard - USA, Chairman and chief executive officer, Hollinger Digital, Inc.; Director, Jerusalem Post

75.         Persson, Göran - Sweden, Prime Minister

76.         Pragnell, M. P. - UK, Director, AstraZeneca plc

77.         Prestowitz Jr., Clyde V. - USA, Founder & President, Economic Strategy Institute (areas of expertise: Globalization, Asia, Technology Policy, Business Strategy); former senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment

78.         Raidl, Claus - Austria, Director, Boehler Uddeholm AG (steel)

79.         Ramqvist, Lars - Sweden, Chairman & C.E.O., Ericsson (world’s third largest mobile phone manufacture); Board member, Skandia  & Volvo

80.         Rattner, Steven - USA, Investment Banker, Director, Quandrangle Group; US Treasury advisory committee on IMF matters; “old hand” at Davos meetings of the World Economic Forum; Chairman of New York Channel 13

81.         Riotta, Gianni - Italy, Publisher, La Stampa

82.         Robertson of Port Ellen, George - Secretary General, NATO

83.         Rockefeller, David - USA, Chairman of the International Advisory Committee, Chase Manhattan Bank; Founder and Honorary Chairman of the Trilateral Commission

84.         Rodriques Inciarte, Matías - Spain, Banco Santander Central Hispano

85.         Roll of Ipsden Eric - UK, UBS Warburg

86.         Sanberk, Özdem - Turkey, Turkish Ambassador to the U.K.; Director General, Turkish Economic and Social Studies Foundation (TESEV)

87.         Scholten,  Rudolf, A. - Austria, Österreichische Kontrollbank

88.         Schrempp, Jürgen E. - Germany, Chairman of the Board, DaimlerChrysler

89.         Seidenfaden, Tøger - Denmark, Editor-in-Chief, Politiken - one of the biggest Danish newspapers

90.         Shevtsova, Lilia - Russia, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Visiting Professor, University of California at Berkeley & Cornell University

91.         Siedentop, Larry A. - USA, Fellow of Keble College & lecturer on political philosophy at Oxford University; Author of Democracy in Europe

92.         Sieghart, Mary Ann - UK, Editorial writer, Times of London

93.         Sofia, Queen of Spain

94.         Taylor, J. Martin - Chairman, WH Smith Group, Adviser, Goldman Sachs

95.         Thornton, John L. - USA, Director, Ford Motor Co.; former President of Goldman Sachs Group; Member, CFR and the Brookings Institution

96.         Treschcow, Michael - Sweden, C.E.O., Electrolux AB

97.         Trichet, Jean-Claude, France, Banque de France

98.         Vasella, Daniel L. - Switzerland, Chairman & C.E.O., Novartis (Pharmaceuticals)

99.         Virkunen, Janne - Finland, Senior Editor -in -Chief, Helsingin Sanomat

100.     Wallenberg, Jacob - Sweden, Chairman, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken

101.     Wallenberg, Marcus - Sweden, C.E.O, Investor; Vice Chairman of the Board, Ericsson

102.     Whyte, Kenneth - Canada, Editor -in-Chief, The National Post

103.     Wolf, Martin - UK, Associated Editor/Economics Commentator

104.     Wolfensohn, James D. - President, The World Bank

105.     Wolff von Amerongen, Otto - Germany, Chairman and C.E.O., Otto Wolff Industrieberatung und Beteiligungen GmbH.

106.     Queen Beatrix - Netherlands H. R. H. the Prince - Netherlands

115 posted on 01/02/2005 7:43:00 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Jack Black

Ping for later reading, after I find my tinfoil hat.


116 posted on 10/04/2005 1:29:34 AM PDT by Alien Gunfighter (Socialist liberals never imagine themselves as peasants under their 'perfect' socialist regime)
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To: Jack Black

The Illuminati serving up Bilderburgers to the Trilateral Commision and the Council on Foreign Relations at Skull and Bones.
Did these guys kill JFK as well?


117 posted on 10/04/2005 1:38:18 AM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY and her HINO want to take over your country. STOP THEM NOW!)
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