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1 posted on 11/15/2004 1:59:38 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Typo in title.


2 posted on 11/15/2004 1:59:52 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

United States of North/Central America?

No thanks.


4 posted on 11/15/2004 2:05:03 AM PST by dandi
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Ah this is nothing to get worked up over. It's the end of self-determination for the citizens of the United States, but that's not so bad. Sure our forefathers fought and died to give us that self-determination, but that's not so much. Sure we fought a number of wars and sacrificed millions of our youth to purchase and preserve that self-determination, but that's no reason not to give it away.

I'm just so happy to have great leaders who care so much for this nation, and my tagline expresses the grounds for that perfectly.

If this passes, and I believe it will, you can stick a fork in this nation. It's done. Your vote will essentially be meaningless in the future.

Those who make the real decisions for this nation will be part of a multi-national committee. Oh how I love this, let me count the ways.


6 posted on 11/15/2004 2:08:25 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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A tri-national task force, chaired by former Liberal Party deputy prime minister John Manley, with the full backing of all three governments, is plotting the roadmap for this new, bolder alliance meant to compete with the European Union. William Weld, former governor of Massachusetts and Pedro Aspe, former Mexican finance minister, join Manley on the panel that reports directly to the Council on Foreign Relations.

WTF!!!!

When did the CFR take over these united States of America?

10 posted on 11/15/2004 2:20:07 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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Tom Ridge is a alien robot - (he dose not blink) No way Bush is behind this, and if this is ever brought up by the MSM the GOP with not be able to keep up with the new converts. All the states will be red. Those people sneaking in here illegally don''t want the USA to become as lame as their countries.
12 posted on 11/15/2004 2:22:32 AM PST by Pacothecat
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This is not good!!.......although I have to admit, I have seen this coming for quite a while. This is just another step towards the NWO.

Canada is already Socialist....Mexico and Central America is moving towards Marxism....An infiltrated United (Divided) States of America stands in the middle.

QUOTE -- Lenin's plan:

"First, we will take Eastern Europe, then the masses of Asia, then we will encircle the United States which will be the last bastion of capitalism. We will not have to attack. It will fall like an overripe fruit into our hands."
13 posted on 11/15/2004 2:34:59 AM PST by Navydog
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To: West Coast Conservative

This has been discussed for a long time. If it is anything like the EU, we would have to vote for it. I can't see Americans going for this. Nationalism and a desire to assert our sovereignty is running high in the American mind right now. We can see the difference between ourselves and the EU that basically ran a foot race seeing who could give up their sovereignty fastest. That more than anything else it what stands in the way of peaceful relations with the EU. They reason differently from ourselves. Besides Americans are tired of the flood from Mexico and South America. It brings all sorts of financial problems. Look at CA who can't keep their hospitals open because too many Hispanics are sucking off the system. Trade partners, yes. Free immigration, no. Unless of course they were just passing through to Canada then we could make money shipping them up :)


15 posted on 11/15/2004 2:54:07 AM PST by foolscap
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The first time I heard this theory proposed, it was by Alex Jones. www.infowars.com

At first, I just thought he was just another conspiracy theorist, but the dominos are falling just as predicted. Same chain of events as in the EU.

This means a border 5x larger that we still won't be able to secure. And we're worried about stopping a suitcase nuke coming across now through Arizona...?
20 posted on 11/15/2004 3:53:27 AM PST by doc390
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Come on everybody ... it's not like we didn't understand all along that those addicted to their Free Trade Drug, wouldn't completely sacrifice the sovereignty of their own country, our United States, if they could make a buck or two in the process.

The agenda of the New World Order according to the ruling elites and their whore lapdogs, is proceeding right along under the new Republican administration ... just as it did under the Klinton gangsters.

Blaze away, but you know it's true.

21 posted on 11/15/2004 3:54:28 AM PST by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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bump


26 posted on 11/15/2004 4:27:13 AM PST by The Mayor ("The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave." --Patri)
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No borders, ping


30 posted on 11/15/2004 4:35:45 AM PST by raybbr
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Borders? There's borders with restrictions now? Really? Wow, who'd a thunk.


31 posted on 11/15/2004 4:38:37 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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So, the next world war will be between all the Americas and that other land mass across the pond?


33 posted on 11/15/2004 4:40:36 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: West Coast Conservative; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ...

It will solve the problem of illegal immigration from Mexico. What is legal is not illegal anymore.


35 posted on 11/15/2004 5:03:05 AM PST by A. Pole (Col.Guano: I think General Ripper found out about your preversion, and your [...]mutiny of preverts.)
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Kissinger -McLarty ... as in Mack McLarty from the Clinton
Arkansas mafia..?

This sounds like chain pulling (as WNW mostly is)..


41 posted on 11/15/2004 6:14:08 AM PST by rahbert
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Joseph Farah? Now there's an unimpeachable source.


53 posted on 11/15/2004 12:32:58 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: West Coast Conservative; Robert Drobot

The article below is an example of what is happening every day.

Robert, you may have heard about this one. Five out of 6 news articles didn't even bother to mention he was illegal.


http://www.democratherald.com/articles/2003/04/09/news/oregon/state03.prt
Last modified Wednesday, April 9, 2003 1:42 PM PDT

Esparza pleads guilty to killing nun


KLAMATH FALLS (AP) - Maximiliano Silerio Esparza pleaded guilty Tuesday to charges that he raped two nuns and killed one of them as they walked and prayed on a bike path last September.
Esparza, 33, was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the murder of Sister Helen Lynn Chaska, 53. He got another 10 years for the attempted murder of the surviving nun, and 15 years for raping the women.

In return for his guilty plea, Esparza avoided a possible death sentence.
In a statement, Edwin Caleb, the Klamath County district attorney, said he offered the plea for several reasons, including the surviving nun's religious convictions. Caleb said he didn't want to force the nun to testify.
"The most obvious reason is the certainty that this monster will be in jail for the rest of his life and never get the opportunity to offend again," he said.
Police say Esparza rode a train from Portland to Klamath Falls about a week before the attack. He visited a strip bar and then attacked the nuns early on a Sunday morning as they prayed on the downtown bike path.
Esparza head-butted one of the nuns, then raped them both while controlling them with the rosary beads around their necks, police said.
Chaska - who went by the name Sister Helena Maria - was strangled by her own beads, according to an autopsy. She was a nun with the Bellevue, Wash., Immaculate Heart of Mary, a small order unaffiliated with the Roman Catholic Church.
Several months before the attack, Esparza was detained and let go by U.S. Border Patrol agents in New Mexico even though he had spent three years in California prisons and had once been deported.
The agents did turn up an old drug charge in Oregon, but Multnomah County passed on extraditing him. The warrant was apparently the only evidence of Esparza's criminal past that surfaced during the checks.
Once Oregon declined to extradite, Esparza was treated like any other undocumented Mexican and was dropped off at the border.




Copyright © 2004 Democrat-Herald




57 posted on 11/15/2004 5:08:30 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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How do you do business with a government as corrupt as Mexico ? What a joke.


71 posted on 03/11/2005 3:53:33 PM PST by John Lenin (It's the things below the surface you can't erase)
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