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Al Gonzales is Pro life!
Sugarbabe

Posted on 11/14/2004 12:23:25 PM PST by sugarbabe

Al Gonzales' sister was in my Sunday School class this morning, and we discussed at length his pro life views. She reassured me that he is pro life. She said it was very hurtful to hear people saying that he is not, and that he was following the law when he ruled on the parental notification law. She said our beef is with the legislature and how the law was written. She emphasized several times that Al is pro life.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: algonzales; doj
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1 posted on 11/14/2004 12:23:25 PM PST by sugarbabe
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To: sugarbabe

Could we find out if he's pro second-amendment?


2 posted on 11/14/2004 12:25:20 PM PST by risk
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To: sugarbabe

His record will speak for him, not his sister.


3 posted on 11/14/2004 12:25:25 PM PST by stopem
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To: stopem

Agreed. His record is what counts.


4 posted on 11/14/2004 12:27:33 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: sugarbabe

It makes no difference in the Attorney General position! He only enforces the law, not make them!


5 posted on 11/14/2004 12:29:43 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (Let there be a honest Congress!)
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To: sugarbabe

Why does it matter in the Attorney General is pro-life or not? The Attorney General enforces the law regardless of his personal opinions.


6 posted on 11/14/2004 12:30:59 PM PST by elizabetty
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To: sugarbabe
He wasn't "following the law" when he pushed the DOJ to endorse "diversity" (rather than merit) in college admissions. The right to "diversity" has nothing to do with the "law" it is purely a creation of judges.

Gonzales believes so much in this concept that he went all out to oppose Ted Olsen and succesfully got the DOJ to write a report endorsing diversity after the SCOTU decided to uphold that concept in the University of Michigan case. Thomas, Scalia, Renquist, and Olsen were on the strict constructionist side, Gonzales opposed them.

For more see here.

7 posted on 11/14/2004 12:34:51 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Don't you think it's possible Bush made him AG INSTEAD of SCJ?

Just askin'

8 posted on 11/14/2004 12:41:42 PM PST by sandalwood (Vote Pat Toomey for Governor)
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To: Austin Willard Wright

Right, and he is associated with a lot of Latino civil rights group plus indigents rights group.

He is a moderate BUT one would think with his Civil rights affiliations he is RINO if not leaning more on the left lib side.


9 posted on 11/14/2004 12:42:09 PM PST by stopem
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound; sugarbabe; All

Yet many FReepers attack him for not being pro-life (they claim) & President Bush for appointing him.

I for one think this is interesting, and I am glad it was posted.

To those who say it is meaningless, that only his record matters, well, the post speaks to that point as well. The sister reportedly said Al Gonzalez was following what he believed the law required of him at the time, and she noted that the legislature was responsible for how the law was written.

So will you take that into account when you consider his "record", or would you demand that he should have rewritten the law from the Bench?


10 posted on 11/14/2004 12:42:22 PM PST by txrangerette
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Surely there is a thread to bash Bush and Gonzalez on that covers your rude change of subject from abortion to affirmative action.


11 posted on 11/14/2004 12:45:04 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: elizabetty
Hi elizabetty. You are correct. It's just that some of us are interested because we have a hard time trusting the integrity of folks who can't call a nine month old fetus a baby even though its arms and legs are dangling from the womb. We feel it may color some of their other decisions.

That said, it must be remembered that John Ashcroft also agrees with you: "I believe Roe v. Wade as an original matter was wrongly decided. I am personally opposed to abortion. But I well understand that the role of attorney general is to enforce the law as it is, not as I would have it. I accept Roe and Casey as the settled law of the land. If confirmed as attorney general, I will follow the law in this area and in all other areas. The Supreme Court’s decisions on this have been multiple, they have been recent and they have been emphatic.

I have been entrusted with public service for more than 25 years. It’s a responsibility I have honored and a trust that I believe I have kept. During those years I have not thought of myself as a public servant of some of the people, but a keeper of the public trust for all the people. If I become US attorney general, I again commit to enforcing the law, all of the law for all of the people. As a man of faith I take my word and my integrity seriously. So when I swear to uphold the law I will keep my oath, so help me God."

Source: Senate confirmation hearing Jan 17, 2001
12 posted on 11/14/2004 12:48:59 PM PST by Leonard210
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To: sugarbabe
"Sunday School"? Last time I checked Gonzalez is a Catholic name and Catholics don't have Sunday School.

Haven't you read Encyclopedia Brown? You've been had.

And last time I checked pro lifers aren't in favor of minors having abortions without their parent's knowledge.
14 posted on 11/14/2004 1:11:04 PM PST by msamizdat
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To: elizabetty

Wasn't Janet Reno the AG back under Clinton.

She choose to mis-direct funding to persecute pro-lifers rather than fight the growing threat of terrorism. I don't have time to find it but this has come to light in the last month or so.

Answer your question?


15 posted on 11/14/2004 1:20:10 PM PST by George from New England
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"So will you take that into account when you consider his "record", or would you demand that he should have rewritten the law from the Bench?"

---Sounds quite like Sandra Day O'Connor speaking when she talks about upholding Roe vs. Wade. Reversing judicial activism is not judicial activism. The problem is that Al Gonzales seem to be a pro-life libertarian, and a social progressive. We might as well let the Democrats nominate him, because they very well might (remember, Al Gonzales WAS -- WAS -- under consideration for a nomination to the SCOTUS when Clinton chose Ginsberg).

I think that AG is fine, but SCOTUS should not even come to Bush's mind; should those sentiments (Of SCOTUS) be uttered by anyone who is close to the White House, everyone from the bloggers to those who donate money should take as strong a stand as they have ever taken.

Attorney General is fine; we will all get to see his social progressiveness played out regularly. But Supreme Court? No. He seems like a slightly more liberal Sandra Day.

Harry Browne says he's pro-life, too. Just can't bring himself to support any action on the issue. That's not, in my opinion, truly pro-life. It's like saying you're anti-slavery but it's not your place to tell people not to own slaves or try to pass laws to outlaw slavery.

Anyhow, getting away from preaching on abortion, Gonzales' family is just going to have to accept that there are much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much better options available for Bush regarding the Supreme Court nominations than the good ol' boy and best buddy from Texas. We cannot afford another Souter or O'Connor.


16 posted on 11/14/2004 2:16:45 PM PST by TitansAFC (Al Gonzales? Let's just nominate Arlen Specter.)
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To: George from New England
She choose to mis-direct funding to persecute pro-lifers rather than fight the growing threat of terrorism. I don't have time to find it but this has come to light in the last month or so. Answer your question?

The President can dictate his policy to the AG even if the AG disagrees. Bush has actually done this sometimes to Aschroft. It is irrelevent if the AG is pro-life as long as the president is.
17 posted on 11/14/2004 2:23:14 PM PST by politicsfan
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To: George from New England
Wasn't Janet Reno the AG back under Clinton. She choose to mis-direct funding to persecute pro-lifers rather than fight the growing threat of terrorism. I don't have time to find it but this has come to light in the last month or so. Answer your question?

It is not in my nature to assume someone is going to be criminally negligent in their job. I believe George W. Bush is a good man and he thinks Alberto Gonzales is a good man. I have no reason to believe he will neglect his obligation to his country and his President.

18 posted on 11/14/2004 2:27:57 PM PST by elizabetty
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"Why does it matter in the Attorney General is pro-life or not? The Attorney General enforces the law regardless of his personal opinions."

Ideally, for sure. But Reno had no problem supressing investigations and picking and choosing which cases to prioritize for allocating resources. Wonder how many boxloads of cases died under her stranglehold because of statute of limitations?

19 posted on 11/14/2004 2:37:56 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: txrangerette

I respectfully disagree. A key issue that has been raised here is whether he believes in enforcing the law or making it by fiat. If he does it one area (namely diversity), why wouldn't he do it another? I presented an example. Do you have facts to refute it?


20 posted on 11/14/2004 2:44:58 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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