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It's hard to get kosher food in the U.S. Marines (nice piece on Jewish MC chaplain)
Ha-aretz ^ | 14 Nov. 04 | Shlomo Shamir

Posted on 11/14/2004 6:05:00 AM PST by JOHN ADAMS

Rabbi Irving Elson, a Jewish chaplain for the U.S. Marines, was on his way to lecture students in a rabbinical seminar in New York when he learned that a Jewish marines officer was among the casualties in the Fallujah battles.

Elson, a tall, mustached man in marines uniform, who recently returned from active service in Iraq, tried to persuade the rabbinical students to join the marines after their ordination. He believes that "every young Jewish man and woman ordained to be rabbis should aspire to serve in the U.S. Marines."

"Believe me, the challenge to serve in the armed forces in a spiritual capacity, administering to the religious needs of Jewish soldiers, is greater and much more fascinating than the role of a rabbi in a synagogue," he says.

Elson never met First Lieutenant Andrew K. Stern, who was killed in Iraq in September, but he did know four other Jewish marines who were killed in Iraq. There are no official figures of the number of Jewish soldiers killed since the invasion to Iraq. An American soldier's dog tag bears his name, personal number, blood type and religion, but in its official announcements, the army does not refer to their religion.

"There are American soldiers in Iraq who do not reveal their Jewish identity and there are Jewish soldiers who don't bother to contact the chaplain," an official in the Jewish Chaplains Council's office in New York says. This makes it difficult to document authoritatively data on Jewish soldiers who have been killed during the war in Iraq.

Some 37 military rabbis are in active service, 11 in the U.S. Air Force and seven in the U.S. Navy. Chaplain (Rabbi) Lieutenant Commander Irving Elson, 44, is completing his 18th year of service in the U.S. Marines.

He first served as military rabbi at the Okinawa marine base. Between 1992 and 1994, he was rabbi of the Sixth Fleet. "We visited Haifa several times," he says. In the first Gulf War, he was based on an aircraft carrier "far from the real action."

When the preparations for the invasion into Iraq began, he was attached to a marine artillery brigade that spearheaded the invasion. Elson estimates that 800 to 1,000 Jewish American soldiers are taking part in the war. His first term in Iraq lasted nine months. He was sent there again in August 2004, returning to his San Diego base in October.

There are some 400 Jews in the Marines Expeditionary Force. Elson describes his service during the High Holy Days with Jewish marines in Iraq as "a spiritual experience" that will stay with him for many years. He was stationed at the Marine base on the outskirts of Fallujah, from where he would take off on a jeep or helicopter to visit Jewish marines.

He "stretched" Rosh Hashanah out to five days "because I wanted to hold holiday prayers every place I knew there were Jewish marines," he says. He held Rosh Hashanah prayers, including shofar blowing, 17 times. "In one place near a battlefield, I blew the shofar for two Jewish marines," he says. On Yom Kippur, despite the terrible heat, Jewish marines fasted all day.

"I decided to enlist as a rabbi to the army instead of looking for a synagogue, because in the army, religion is devoid of politics," he says. "Among the Jewish soldiers, there is no distinction between Reform, Conservative and Orthodox. I never ask a soldier which stream he belongs to. Every Jew gets equal treatment in the army."

The only complaint Elson has against the military authorities is the chronic shortage of kosher food rations. A Chicago plant manufactures kosher combat rations, but for some reason they are hard to come by. Elson says 3,000 kosher combat rations are stored in a base in Kuwait and for bureaucratic reasons the army is delaying their distribution. Every package of 12 standard rations has two vegetarian rations, "and this is what I lived on for months during my service in Iraq," he says.

Elson, who was awarded the Meritorious Service Medal, is married and father of three, wears a knitted skullcap and speaks Hebrew he learned during his studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Elson says that many senior marine commanders admire the IDF. "When they hear that I'm a rabbi, they ask if I've visited Israel and compliment the IDF."

"Jewish marines ask me what will happen to them if they are killed in battle, or why was their friend, a decent, good guy, killed in battle?" says Elson.

Many of the marines are 18 and 19-year-old men, who are stationed out of the United States for the first time.

"A Jewish marine recently asked me if he may say kaddish [mourning prayer] over a gentile marine who was a close friend of his and who was killed. I told him he was permitted to express his grief any way he felt. But I recommended he say psalms," says Elson.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chaplain; jewishtroops; kosher; marinecorps

1 posted on 11/14/2004 6:05:01 AM PST by JOHN ADAMS
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To: JOHN ADAMS
"every young Jewish man and woman ordained to be rabbis should aspire to serve in the U.S. Marines."

Sounds like a plan to me. I am still working on my daughter to join the Marines.
2 posted on 11/14/2004 6:21:56 AM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist ")
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To: Max Combined
MC

One thing the Rabbi didn't point out is that Military Chaplain must be multi-faith capable for those in hospital and shouldn't be surprised in the field if everyone in their HMMV hood Altar facing congregation is a "Heinz-57" mix of all faiths.

When a Chaplain showed up (Protestant, Catholic, Jewish), I went, because sometimes in the field there could be a long dry stretch in between visits. Peace and prosperity unto you and your house.
3 posted on 11/14/2004 6:50:48 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Tabi Katz; Alouette

Here's an article you may find interesting.


4 posted on 11/14/2004 7:18:56 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: SJackson
Bttt.

5.56mm

5 posted on 11/14/2004 7:23:37 AM PST by M Kehoe
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6 posted on 11/14/2004 7:25:04 AM PST by Alouette (When the wicked perish, there is jubilation! Proverbs 11:10)
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7 posted on 11/14/2004 7:28:08 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: All

A very interesting article, I didn't know that there are jews in the US Marines.
By the way the Israeli "Marines" are called Golani (Golan Heights) and Givati (Hill).


8 posted on 11/14/2004 7:34:16 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israeli Defence Forces)
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To: M Kehoe
Thanks for the ping. The availability problem surprises me a bit. Since Kosher MREs are also halal, they ramped up production a few years ago to feed the prisoners at Guantanamo.

Meal, Religious, Kosher/Halal


One entree and one accessory bag together comprise one meal (Photos courtesy of SBCCOM).

WHAT IS IT?

The Meal, Religious, Kosher or Halal is utilized to feed those individuals in the Military Service who maintain a strict religious diet. Each meal consists of one Kosher or Halal certified entree and religiously certified/acceptable complementary items sufficient to provide the recommended daily nutritional requirements. Like the MRE, it is a totally self-contained meal; however, it is not combined in a flexible meal bag. Each case of Religious Rations contains two intermediate boxes, one box with twelve entrees and one box with twelve component/accessory items.


WHAT IS IN IT?

Each meal contains an entree plus a bag containing a variety of components. In addition, an accessory packet with condiments/seasonings, utensils, flameless ration heater and napkin is included in the component bag. Each menu provides approximately 1200 kilocalories (11-13% protein, 37-40% fat, and 48% carbohydrate). 


HOW DO I EAT IT?

Except for the beverages, the entire meal is ready to eat. While the entree may be eaten cold when operationally necessary, it can also be heated in a variety of ways, including immersion in hot water while still sealed in its individual entree package. A flameless ration heater has also been packed into each meal bag to heat the entree.


HOW LONG WILL IT LAST?

The maximum shelf life at delivery is 10 months; the minimum shelf life at delivery is 3 months.


HOW CAN I ORDER IT?

The NSN for the Kosher Ration is 8970-01-E10-0001 and for the Halal Ration is 8970-01-E10-0002. Requisitions are processed according to the supply procedures for each Military Service. The point of contact is Tom Carlin at (215) 737-7348, DSN 444-7348 or e-mail: Send Your Mail!Thomas.Carlin@dla.mil.


COMMENTS:

Please click on the below links to view the following documents.

The Halal Industrial Production Standards Manual: This Halal Industrial Production Standard Manual (written by Dr. Muhammad Munir Chaudry, Mary Anne Jackson, Mohammad Mazhar Hussaini, and Dr. Mian Nadeem Riaz) is copy right protected by My Own Meals, Inc. It may be reproduced electronically or physically provided if a.) It is reproduced in its entirety including all pages describing products and authors b.) full credit is given authors. It is reproduced here by DSCP with written permission.

Kosher Summary: This document is the property of My Own Meals, Inc and reproduced here with their permission.

Halal Summary: This document is the property of J&M Food Products Company and reproduced here with their permission.

Rainbow Line

MAIN ENTREE VARIETIES:

 
KOSHER
HALAL
Beef Stew
X
X
Chicken & Noodles
X
X
Cheese Tortellini
X
X
Florentine Lasagna
X
X
Pasta w/Garden Vegetables
X
X
My Kind of Chicken
(Chicken, Brown Rice & Sauce)
X
X
Old World Stew
X
X
Chicken & Black Beans
X
X
Chicken Mediterranean
X
X
Vegetarian Stew
X
X

Rainbow Line

COMPONENT/ACCESSORY ITEMS ARE SHIPPED PACKAGED TOGETHER
IN THE SAME CASE WITH THE ENTREES.
COMPONENT/ACCESSORY ITEMS CONTAIN BRAND NAME ITEMS.

COMPLEMENTARY COMPONENTS INCLUDE: 

Beverage Base (Hot or Cold)
Cereal
Bakery Items (e.g., Bagel Chips, Granola Bar, etc.)
Fruits/Nuts (e.g., Raisins, Peanuts, etc.)

ACCESSORY ITEMS: 

Salt
Pepper
Sugar
Spoon
Toilet Tissue
Flameless Heater
Towelette

9 posted on 11/14/2004 7:36:19 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
Actually they're Navy Chaplains attached to the Marines.

A couple articles you might like.

Rabbi brings Torah to Marines in Babylon

Torah Dedicated on USS Ronald Reagan

ARNOLD E. RESNICOFF, Captain, Chaplain Corps,USN (Ret)

Rabbi's camouflage yarmulke woven with tragedy, heroism

10 posted on 11/14/2004 7:42:33 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: SJackson

Thanks :)


11 posted on 11/14/2004 7:49:42 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israeli Defence Forces)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

"MC Chaplain"...? Didn't he record something with Snoop Doggy Dogg, just a few months ago...? :)


12 posted on 11/14/2004 7:54:28 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Is there anything we can do to help with regard to making the kosher meals more available? They sell something in the markets now which the Israeli army invented that mixes two chemicals together and heats the kosher meal in the package. It's call La'Briut. Could the military just buy up some of these?


13 posted on 11/14/2004 8:12:20 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
Rabbi Irving Elson, a Jewish chaplain for the U.S. Marines,

Actually a Jewish Chaplain in the United States Navy assigned to a Marine Corps unit.

14 posted on 11/14/2004 9:28:57 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Cinnamon Girl

If you find any way to help, let me know. What about sending care packages of dry kosher food? Just ping me if you find a way to help or where to send stuff.


15 posted on 11/14/2004 9:33:23 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: SandRat

As long as they serve the same God...


16 posted on 11/14/2004 2:44:02 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Even though I'm a Christian Protestant, I and many others made Divine services anytime a Jewish, Catholic, or Protestant Chaplain showed up. It sure makes a difference in how you feel about yourself and cures an awful lot of what ails ya.
17 posted on 11/14/2004 3:05:06 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SJackson

bttt


18 posted on 11/15/2004 12:33:53 AM PST by lainde
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To: JOHN ADAMS

My very best friends are Jewish; this piece is insulting.


19 posted on 11/15/2004 12:58:57 AM PST by Old Professer ( War too often becomes personal; we inure ourselves to the abstract and audit too lightly)
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