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Lock and Load
NY Times ^ | November 13, 2004 | NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

Posted on 11/13/2004 2:34:57 PM PST by neverdem

OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR

Nothing kills Democratic candidates' prospects more than guns. If it weren't for guns, President-elect Kerry might now be conferring with incoming Senate Majority Leader Daschle.

Since the Brady Bill took effect in 1994, gun-control efforts have been a catastrophe for Democrats. They have accomplished almost nothing nationally, other than giving a big boost to the Republicans. Mr. Kerry tried to get around the problem by blasting away at small animals, but nervous Red Staters still suspected Democrats of plotting to seize guns.

Moreover, it's clear that in this political climate, further efforts at gun control are a nonstarter. You can talk until you're blue in the face about the 30,000 gun deaths each year, about children who are nine times as likely to die in a gun accident in America as elsewhere in the developed world, about the $17,000 average cost (half directly borne by taxpayers) of treating each gun injury. But nationally, gun control is dead.

So it's time for a fundamentally new approach, emblematic of how Democrats must think in new ways about old issues. The new approach is to accept that handguns are part of the American landscape, but to use a public health approach to try to make them much safer.

The model is automobiles, for a high rate of traffic deaths was once thought to be inevitable. But then we figured out ways to mitigate the harm with seat belts, air bags and collapsible steering columns, and since the 1950's the death rate per mile driven has dropped 80 percent.

Similar steps are feasible in the world of guns.

"You can tell whether a camera is loaded by looking at it, and you should be able to tell whether a gun is loaded by looking at it," said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. Professor Hemenway has written "Private Guns, Public Health," a brilliant and clear-eyed primer for the country.

We take safety steps that reduce the risks of everything from chain saws (so they don't kick back and cut off an arm) to refrigerators (so kids can't lock themselves inside). But firearms have been exempt. Companies make cellphones that survive if dropped, but some handguns can fire if they hit the ground.

Professor Hemenway notes that in the 1990's, two children a year, on average, died after locking themselves in car trunks. This was considered unacceptable, so a government agency studied the problem, and General Motors and Ford engineered safety mechanisms to prevent such deaths.

In contrast, 15 children under the age of 5 die annually in fatal gun accidents in the U.S., along with 18 children 5 to 9 years old. We routinely make aspirin bottles childproof, but not guns, even though childproof pistols were sold back in the 19th century - they wouldn't fire unless the shooter put pressure on the handle as well as the trigger.

Aside from making childproof guns, here are other steps we could take:

Require magazine safeties so a gun cannot be fired when the clip is removed (people can forget that a bullet may still be in the chamber and pull the trigger). Many guns already have magazine safeties, but not all.

Finance research to develop "smart guns," which can be fired only by authorized users. If a cellphone can be locked with a PIN, why not a gun? This innovation would protect children - and thwart criminals.

Start public safety campaigns urging families to keep guns locked up in a gun safe or with a trigger lock (now, 12 to 14 percent of gun owners with young children keep loaded and unlocked weapons in their homes).

Encourage doctors to counsel depressed patients not to keep guns, and to advise new parents on storing firearms safely.

Make gun serial numbers harder for criminals to remove.

Create a national database for gun deaths. In a traffic fatality, 120 bits of data are collected, like the positions of the passengers and the local speed limit, so we now understand what works well (air bags, no "right on red") and what doesn't (driver safety courses). Statistics on gun violence are much flimsier, so we don't know what policies would work best, and much of the data hurled by rival camps at each other is inaccurate.

Would these steps fly politically? Maybe. One poll showed that 88 percent of the public favors requiring that guns be childproof. And such measures demonstrate the kind of fresh thinking that can keep alive not only thousands of Americans, but the Democratic Party as well.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; democraticparty; firearms; guncontrol; gunvote; secondamendment
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To: snowsislander

Repeal the 1968 law? Now you are talking. We need to repeal a whole bunch of clearly unconstitutional laws. The legislature got us into this mess, and we cannot count on the judges to keep their oathes. Only one thing to do. Repeal gun laws. Period.


161 posted on 11/14/2004 2:13:42 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: Zacs Mom

Yes Maam. My daughter knows how to do the gun part. Of course she is only nine. Will work on the car stuff in a few years.


162 posted on 11/14/2004 2:16:27 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the heads up ~ I saved the link!


163 posted on 11/14/2004 2:42:40 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: kAcknor; neverdem
So how do I get to a place to click on the banglist to see the latest articles?

BTW the rumors of the death of DOS are overrated - that new fangled windose will never amount to anything! ;-)

164 posted on 11/14/2004 2:45:00 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Repeal the 22nd Amendment!)
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To: Tunehead54

Get the FR search open and enter banglist. Lower case works for me.


165 posted on 11/14/2004 3:02:53 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: petercooper

roflmao


166 posted on 11/14/2004 3:05:58 PM PST by sweetiepiezer (We stopped Kerry for our grandkids sake!!!!!!!! Thank you America!!!!!!)
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To: Hardastarboard
childproof pistols were sold back in the 19th century - they wouldn't fire unless the shooter put pressure on the handle as well as the trigger.

I had to jump in here again after I read this more thoroughly. NAME ONE, wise ass. I'm about as familiar with guns as anyone on this board, and I can't think of a single gun with this "feature" made in the 19th century

Perhaps he's referring to the Smith & Wesson New Departure .38 and .32 safety hammerless (also called the lemonsqueezer) which had a grip safety (neat for a revolver). Anyhoo, they were introduced in 1887/1888 and manufactured through to WWII.

167 posted on 11/14/2004 3:16:50 PM PST by cidrasm
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To: Tunehead54; neverdem
So how do I get to a place to click on the banglist to see the latest articles?

Cut & paste this into a shortcut:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/involved?group=152

Or just MASH HERE

BTW the rumors of the death of DOS are overrated - that new fangled windose will never amount to anything! ;-)

Oh don't I know it. It lives in my memories and nightmares... ;)

168 posted on 11/14/2004 3:47:45 PM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: ol painless
Lock and load.

You betcha! [.WMV file movie]

169 posted on 11/14/2004 4:11:30 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: kAcknor; neverdem
Below is what I bookmarked ... It allows me to punch in any keyword but is there a ping list still? How do I know its "banglist" and not bang_list?
Thanks in advance - you've been very helpful. :-) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=

And BTW I don't mash anything I just right-click and select "Open link in new tab" - Firefox! What I like most about Firefox over Netscape is that if I click on the big x - top right - it asks me if I'm sure - NS does not. ;-)

170 posted on 11/14/2004 5:25:30 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Repeal the 22nd Amendment!)
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To: Tunehead54
The BANGLIST is hardcoded into the search for group 152. The way I understand it when John Robinson coded the new keywords from the old pinglists he left the old list numbers so the links would not die.

So now, you can still use that old link I sent (sorry, lazy. still works) ;) or yours with the keyword inserted. The same search is used from the main posts page is you search by keyword.

As far as knowing, well, there was a bit of confusion at first by some, between BANG and BANGLIST. BANGLIST is what the old link goes to, but you will sometimes see BANG in there with it. Had to standardize on something and BANGLIST is it.

Confused yet? LOL

I don't know if there is a 'Master List' of keywords or where to find it. Haven't the time or inclination to follow too much, and this one subject is the one I do.

171 posted on 11/14/2004 5:43:17 PM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: kAcknor
Arrrghh..

"is you search by keyword" = "if you search by keyword"

172 posted on 11/14/2004 5:44:55 PM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: archy

Thanks for the teaser!


173 posted on 11/14/2004 7:43:28 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: El Gato; neverdem
Thanks for that info on that last-minute anti-MG addition to the FOPA by traitor Hughes, as well as the link to the Hardy article. Another one for study and the archives...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

174 posted on 11/15/2004 4:57:11 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Squantos
4 more years with W is good news but we're still living under the boot here in the People's Republik.

Off to wack me some elk meat in Arizona this week. Gonna freeze my testicles off since the nice weather here has turned me soft.

175 posted on 11/16/2004 7:38:44 AM PST by spectr17 (Veni, Vedi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: archy
THANKS!!!

God I so wanna BAR....

Regards,

L

176 posted on 11/28/2004 1:20:04 AM PST by Lurker (As a matter of fact, I do serve Satan. It's just that my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: Lurker
God I so wanna BAR....

You have excellent taste.

Until one comes your way, if you don't yet have a copy of Jim Ballou's outstanding book on the BAR's development, history and operation, Rock In A Hard Place - The Browning Automatic Rifle, I reccomend it VERY highly. If you'd like an autographed copy, that can probably be arranged...and I understand Jim's working on an update of the book for a second printing run.

It's neither small, nor inexpensive. Neither is a BAR.


177 posted on 11/29/2004 3:18:28 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: neverdem
If it weren't for guns, President-elect Kerry might now be conferring with incoming Senate Majority Leader Daschle.

And we at the nytimes would be even more stoned, our minds blown into space with so much joy at the...er, sorry, we at the nytimes Blah, blah blah.
178 posted on 11/29/2004 3:23:40 PM PST by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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