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Wesley Clark (ugh!): The Real Battle
Washington Post ^ | 11/14/04 | Wesley Clark

Posted on 11/13/2004 9:45:06 AM PST by Pokey78

Winning in Fallujah Is Just the Beginning

Americans scouring news reports of the U.S.-led assault on the Iraqi city of Fallujah can be forgiven if they are experiencing a degree of confusion and uncertainty.

Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, assures us that U.S. and Iraqi government forces are advancing steadily through the insurgent stronghold and that the assault has been "very, very successful." Yet even as troops move street by street through the Sunni city, the measure of their success is elusive. There's no uniformed enemy force, no headquarters, no central command complex for U.S. troops to occupy and win. At the end, there will be no surrender.

Instead, the outcome of the battle must be judged by a less clear-cut standard: not by the seizure and occupation of ground, but by the impact it has on the political and diplomatic process in Iraq. Its chances for success in that area are highly uncertain. Will Fallujah, like the famous Vietnam village, be the place we destroyed in order to save it? Will the bulk of the insurgents simply scatter to other Iraqi cities? Will we win a tactical victory only to fail in our strategic goal of convincing Iraqis that we are making their country safe for democracy -- and specifically for elections at the end of January?

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: heroofthekla; wesleyclark
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Dear Wes,

Kerry lost. Go away.

Signed, America

1 posted on 11/13/2004 9:45:06 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78

When it suits the slimes, they actually do describe the enemy accurately...

"There's no uniformed enemy force, no headquarters, no central command complex for U.S. troops to occupy and win. At the end, there will be no surrender."

But they do so with the express purpose of demoralizing Americans and the troops.


2 posted on 11/13/2004 9:48:17 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Pokey78

Hey, Wes. STFU. Your days of bombing Christian civilians in Europe is over. Maybe the KLA needs an air force. You could sign up with them.


3 posted on 11/13/2004 9:49:24 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: Pokey78

I hate it when a "has been" thinks he's a "still is".


4 posted on 11/13/2004 9:50:33 AM PST by downwithsocialism
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To: coconutt2000
I saw the same thing, and thought, "Gee, lil' Wesley...that is exactly what President Bush has been saying, and your dumbass party has been attacking him for saying so.
5 posted on 11/13/2004 9:51:05 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: coconutt2000

Remember, General Clark had a distinguished career in the military, and the fact that he sucked as a political candidate doesn't negate that. Military leaders follow orders and they don't make policy. I'd feel fairly comfortable with a guy like Clark in an advisory role to the administration. The fact that a fish can't ride a bicycle doesn't make it a bad swimmer!


6 posted on 11/13/2004 9:51:33 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: Pokey78

On the one hand, you have to wonder if Clark ever actually was in the military. On the other hand, given the way he offers encouragement and expresses confidence in that same military, I guess it isn't a surprise that he is a Kerry devotee.


7 posted on 11/13/2004 9:52:22 AM PST by stevem
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To: Pokey78

Wesley Clarks' INCOMPETENCE nearly started WWIII (or four depending on your view).

It was only when subordinates REFUSED TO OBEY HIM that desaster was avoided. He is just frank burns with a better taylor.


8 posted on 11/13/2004 9:53:14 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Pokey78

The outcome of the battle is simple to predict.

As long as there are strong leaders like Bush and NOT brown nosing fops like Wesley Clark and John F'ing Kerry running the show, we will win.
IMHO


9 posted on 11/13/2004 9:54:40 AM PST by A Real Dan Fan... NOT (Profanity is the linguistic crutch of the inarticulate sumb*tch.)
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To: Pokey78

Very funny.

I hear he and Ashcroft will be singing a duet.


10 posted on 11/13/2004 9:55:16 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Pokey78

In my opinion, if we've made mistakes in Iraq, it's pussyfooting around.
Why did we give Falujah several weeks of advance notice? Why not ring the place with tanks and troops and prevent anyone from leaving? Without notice?
When the bodies were burned on the bridge, the bridge should have ceased to exist an hour later. Falujah should have been attacked within 24 hours.
Our troops suffer because of this ridiculous effort to 'win hearts and minds' and to reach a diplomatic solution. There can be NO diplomatic solutions with terrorists.


11 posted on 11/13/2004 9:55:37 AM PST by Imnotalib (Kerry-Edwards=Liar-thief)
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To: bigbob

If you listened to this bozo on the networks at the onset of the Iraq war, you know that everything he said was wrong. His attitude seemed to be that all the military people were dumbbells except him.


12 posted on 11/13/2004 9:57:05 AM PST by Imnotalib (Kerry-Edwards=Liar-thief)
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To: Pokey78
Clark is a sore looserman and still thinks he has a chance

in 08,what a dreamer....
13 posted on 11/13/2004 10:00:22 AM PST by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: Pokey78
Just as every Ann Coulter thread requires pictures, so too should every Wes Clark thread.


14 posted on 11/13/2004 10:01:36 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: bigbob

He has a good career in Vietnam then became a political officer. His actions with Clinton in bombing Christians and helping Muslims in Kosovo was horrible. The Muslims including the KLA in Kosovo helped Bin Laden sell dope or really transit it to Europe.


15 posted on 11/13/2004 10:02:56 AM PST by FrankRepublican (Arlen Specter = Ted Kennedy Dem Bush = Open Borders w/ Mexico)
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To: bigbob
I read a lot about Clark when it seems for a about a week

that he might be taken seriously as a candidate. Most of

what I read indicated that his compatriots, the other

soldiers he served with at "all" levels, wanted little or

nothing to do with him and usually characterized him as an

arrogant SOB.
16 posted on 11/13/2004 10:03:38 AM PST by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: Pokey78
." Yet even as troops move street by street through the Sunni city, the measure of their success is elusive. There's no uniformed enemy force, no headquarters, no central command complex for U.S. troops to occupy and win. At the end, there will be no surrender.

Thank God Wesley, and his lack of diverse military thought, isn't the one leading the military campaign in Iraq.

Gee, I ponder what his motivation in this writing may be? /sarcasm

17 posted on 11/13/2004 10:06:30 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Don't ask don't tell?


18 posted on 11/13/2004 10:06:43 AM PST by cwd26
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To: Pokey78

Clark is like a 20 year old punk in a 60 year old body. What does he offer in terms of public debate? He's a light weight.


19 posted on 11/13/2004 10:07:32 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

You can disagree with a man's views and still show him the measure of respect he deserves.


20 posted on 11/13/2004 10:08:17 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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