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I think a shake up in the CIA is long overdue.

But I hope they will be able to distinguish between the troublemakers, who should go and the good agennts who should stay.

I don't know whether the current consternations, sometimes characterized as "turmoil" is a good thing or a bad thing.

Related article: CIA deputy retires amid internal conflict

1 posted on 11/13/2004 7:05:38 AM PST by FairOpinion
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Now that Bush has won re-election in spite of the best efforts of the scum down in Langley, it's time for payback.

Here's hopin Bush sends in the liberal exterminators and disinfects the entire joint from top to bottom.

A restructured CIA after a thorough house cleaning will be highly effective and trust worthy.

As it is structured right now, there are too many pockets of poison stemming from 8 years of the Clintonistas.


2 posted on 11/13/2004 7:09:03 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (The Measure of a Man is the Willingness to Accept Responsibility for Consequences of his Acts.)
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The disgrantled government workers CIA agents shouldn't have "messed with a Texan".....I hope Bush goes after and clean up that department...way over due...and I hear it has started this morning when one of them has "resigned".....clean house....they have been out of control for too long...and it's time!


3 posted on 11/13/2004 7:10:22 AM PST by IndianPrincessOK (Native American pleading for Truth!)
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Based on what I know (my Dad lived it) if you get an a**hole with a grudge who thinks he knows everything as a new boss (especially a 'Chief of Staff'??, anyone with retirement ready is going to leave.

What is it with American managment? A manager gains the most when he/she LISTENS to people with experience.

At this point, even given that the story originated in the NYTimes, I side with those that are leaving.


4 posted on 11/13/2004 7:11:15 AM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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This is really disturbing stuff. To think that these vandals actually run the foreign intelligence of the United States is frightening. If they would campaign against their own president, what is to keep them from leading him into disasterous foreign situation in order to destroy him.

Take a hint, Mr. President. Hit first!


5 posted on 11/13/2004 7:14:15 AM PST by Juan Medén
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It's daggerous for our nation to have a politicized CIA!!!!

I hope Bush "cleans house" but good. Im sure there are many dead end jobs in which to move the disgruntled non-fireable careerists who have forgotten their mission to serve the President, not to advance alternative policies thru leaks to the New York Times.

Bush has been far too much of a "nice guy" with this agency, which has served him - and the rest of us- badly. since well before 9-11.


6 posted on 11/13/2004 7:15:03 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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Of course you know this "Hubris" guy is gonna be on every major Old Media show bashing Bush and giving Osama more credit than the terrorist deserves. The libs will just love this.

Hey, I hear Sheurer is going to be on 60 minutes. Rather and c B.S. never learn.

The C.I.A. has no business being political. A major shake-up needs to be done A.S.A.P., otherwise we Americans are in greater danger from analysts and agents who want to bring down the Commander in Chief. The C.I.A. appears to be chock full of ideological weaklings and leftist girliemen who believe appeasement is the answer to Islamofascism.


7 posted on 11/13/2004 7:15:08 AM PST by demnomo
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>His enemies are in certain offices of the Central Intelligence Agency

I didn't believe
this story when talking heads
started using it.

Now, seeing it in
the New York Times, we can all
be sure it's claptrap.

8 posted on 11/13/2004 7:15:25 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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Funny, the NYT spouting off about what W should do, after spending the last 18 months as the press organ of the democrats. Any advice that rag gives is to be considered toxic at best. I wouldn't wrap fish with that toilet paper...


10 posted on 11/13/2004 7:16:56 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......it's beginning now...)
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From the article: "His opponents are found in the Democratic Party. His enemies are in certain offices of the Central Intelligence Agency."
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Sorry but I think the Slimes has it backwards. While the CIA needs a complete make-over, along with other 3-letter agencies, GWBs and America's internal enemies most certainly LIE WITHIN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY and all the other Marxists that would convert America into a socialist swamp, and trash the Constitution.

Get it straight for once, Slimes!!!!


13 posted on 11/13/2004 7:19:04 AM PST by EagleUSA
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If people within the CIA aren't loyal to the President then we have a big problem. Geez-o-whiz people, this is not Kiddie City. There are people out there plotting to kill mass numbers of Americans right now and some of you - those supposed to protect our country - were trying to unseat the man in charge of this nation? Would they prefer Clinton? What the heck is going on? Anyone using a position within the CIA for cheap political purposes needs to spend time in a federal penitentiary.


17 posted on 11/13/2004 7:22:49 AM PST by Norman Bates (Game over. Bush wins.)
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I heard on the radio this morning that Scheuer is resigning.


18 posted on 11/13/2004 7:25:56 AM PST by rushmom
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And Acting Director McLaughlin just announced his resignation "for personal reasons".


26 posted on 11/13/2004 7:28:39 AM PST by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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"people in the C.I.A. need to be reminded..."

No, they need to be fired, in wholesale lots. We can get much better people. They have performed just abysmally over the past decade, have undergone regulatory capture, in effect. We need a systematic purge and new faces, not lectures to the existing useful idiots.

27 posted on 11/13/2004 7:30:51 AM PST by JasonC
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There's going to be a house cleaning. 60-80 CIA folks are to be fired this month. Upon the removal of these creeps, the CIA will once again be pro-American. Thanks CIA Director.


28 posted on 11/13/2004 7:31:26 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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Bush is a strong leader. It won't be easy, but if anyone can bring them around, it is him.


32 posted on 11/13/2004 7:34:24 AM PST by SBOinTX
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"I think a shake up in the CIA is long overdue. "

Absolutely dead-on, FairOp.

When pressed to admit mistakes in the 3rd debate, Pres. Bush mentioned the appointment of some unnamed persons to government posts. While most thought of O'Neill at Treasury or Bremer's short-term predecessor in Iraq (so short I can't even remember his name!), the retention of Tenet also springs to mind. Via leaks to the Washington Post, CIA elements have acted as a loose-cannon 5th column against our sitting President. Another example can be found in the Drudge link to the WaPo this morning to yet another article demeaning Porter Goss. Goss has the toughest job in Washington right now......fighting an entrenched bureaucracy extremely hostile to change in an organization where poor results scream out for change. This is going to be a huge fight with high stakes. Brooks is so right in this article, and I hope he and others stay on top of it.

33 posted on 11/13/2004 7:35:05 AM PST by Reo
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Seems they didn't dig far enough to root out Aldridge Ames sympathizers.


34 posted on 11/13/2004 7:35:38 AM PST by G Larry (Time to update my "Support John Thune!" tagline. Thanks to all who did!)
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"If we lived in a primitive age, the ground at Langley would be laid waste and salted, and there would be heads on spikes."
".....It is time to reassert some harsh authority so C.I.A......"

Live long enough in a "non-primitive" age and people forget what is behind respect for authority and the rules that govern us all.

It is good if all people remember and respect, but if they don't it is NECCESSARY to have a few "heads on spikes".

I don't expect anything to be done about this because ANOTHER result of living in a "non-primitive" age is forgetting how (or even why) to crack the whip.


37 posted on 11/13/2004 7:43:04 AM PST by TalBlack
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Porter Goss served on the Intelligence Committee.

He knows where the stinkers are in the CIA.

He has his minions in there kicking their buts and encouraging them to leave.

The troublemakers are a bunch of Clintonista plants and they need to be purged.


38 posted on 11/13/2004 7:48:51 AM PST by Pylot
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The Joseph Wilson Niger setup should be viewed in this light, as just another piece of a highly-coordinated attack by factions within the CIA against the Bush administration (and, by extension, against US strategic interests). When can we expect the NY Times to go back and correct the record?


41 posted on 11/13/2004 7:51:51 AM PST by The Electrician
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