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2 Benedict professors fired over grade policy
The State.com (South Carolina) ^ | 8/20/2004 | Carolyn Click

Posted on 11/13/2004 4:37:44 AM PST by Republicanprofessor

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To: Republicanprofessor

The subtle racism of low expectations.


41 posted on 11/13/2004 6:15:03 AM PST by Crawdad (Mirror, mirror on the wall, what the %#@& happened?)
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To: Moose4
He's literally been covering for students that have turned out to be dealing drugs or committing assaults.

Call me a cynic, but nobody does anything for nothing. "Follow the money."

42 posted on 11/13/2004 6:27:32 AM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Republicanprofessor

Talk about getting a "BS" degree.


43 posted on 11/13/2004 6:31:33 AM PST by wireman
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To: Criminal Number 18F
There is nothing grammatically wrong with that sentence. If you can't figure that out you need to go back and review your high school grammar class. (Oops! I forgot. English grammar isn't taught in high school anymore!)
44 posted on 11/13/2004 6:39:58 AM PST by retprin
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To: Republicanprofessor
"Success Equals Effort policy"

Well, I guess this explains why South Carolina remains on the bottom of the academic heap.

45 posted on 11/13/2004 6:44:30 AM PST by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: Moose4

"speaking as somebody who lives in the Columbia area,"

How dare you spoil everybody's fun by injecting some actual information into the thread!

Too bad this guy Swinton is a sociopath. His idea is worth a try, with suitable evaluation after a period of time- say after ten years-- and with the support of faculty. It's worth finding out if it does motivate marginal students to "try harder."

When I went to college, the burden of learning was understood to lie with the student--not the teacher--but then that was when dinosaurs walked. Old assumptions have long since broken down, and we may as well face it.


46 posted on 11/13/2004 6:46:07 AM PST by hinckley buzzard (I, the Jury)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Follow the money. If they keep them in for freshman and sophmore years, they get two years of tuition money (instead of what they would get if the students flunked out in their first semester

By switching to full-performance grading in the latter two years, they make sure they flunk out the complete losers before they degrade any value of the college's diploma

47 posted on 11/13/2004 6:47:28 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Hey those mail sorters make more money than I do with my Bachelor's degree and Master's degree!!! Not everyone needs to go to college. The world will always need skilled trades, garbage collectors etc....


48 posted on 11/13/2004 6:59:51 AM PST by chalkfarmer
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To: retprin

Actually, there is something wrong with that sentence. "That" would refer to the high school. "Who" would refer to the students. That is why one might infer that he is saying that the high school cannot read or write. The structure of the sentence also makes it unclear and makes it possible for one to infer that he is saying that the high school cannot read or write.


49 posted on 11/13/2004 7:08:57 AM PST by Unknown Freeper
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50 posted on 11/13/2004 7:12:48 AM PST by mhking
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To: Crawdad
The subtle racism of low expectations.

President Bush has often used a similar phrase in pushing for education reforms: "the soft bigotry of low expectations." Either phrase is right on the mark in this case.

The "success equals effort" mindset didn't start at Benedict College, of course (although this is among the most outrageous and overt manifestations of it). In North Carolina, and elsewhere, I'm sure, when high school test scores are published, the emphasis is on "meeting or exceeding expectations" rather than on the raw scores at a given school. Therefore, a school which has seen its pass rate rise from 30% to 40% will receive an award or special recognition of some kind, whereas a school where the pass rate holds steady at 95% has the accomplishments of its students all but ignored.

The primary focus, repeated time and again, is to "close the gap" between white and black, between rich and poor, etc. One sometimes gets the impression that the education establishment would be happy if scores in high-achieving schools declined, so as to assist in narrowing the gap.

51 posted on 11/13/2004 7:16:21 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina (I support tax cuts for the rich... and I VOTE!)
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To: Republicanprofessor
Two Benedict College science professors have been fired after they refused to assign grades that rewarded students’ effort as much as acquired knowledge.

A Rush Limbaugh truism: Liberals insist they not be judged by results but by their intentions.

gitmo

52 posted on 11/13/2004 7:18:44 AM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Gee thanks President Swinton. You and your allies have ruined the reputation of what was once a fine old college. Don't be shocked if Bennedict grads start having a tough time finding jobs in Carolina.


53 posted on 11/13/2004 7:19:10 AM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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To: Republicanprofessor
My son is in the sixth grade. He does advanced trigonometry, knows three languages and has a good knowledge of sciences, history and technology.

Some day he will compete in the marketplace with fools such as these. He will be very successful if the playing field is level.

His reward: They will probably blame him because he is white.
54 posted on 11/13/2004 7:20:08 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: BamaDi

"they'll never make it in today's world with a so-called education like this."

Sure they will. They'll work for the government and they'll fit right in.


55 posted on 11/13/2004 7:21:13 AM PST by lotusblos
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To: Republicanprofessor
Who "polices" this university? I mean, it seems they should lose there accreditation for such a grading policy.

I know at other universities you have to keep up to certain standards or risk losing your accreditation. This accreditation (or lack thereof) affects if your credits can be transferred to another institution, etc.

This grading policy, it seems to me, would make a degree from the college practically worthless.
56 posted on 11/13/2004 7:29:38 AM PST by dixiechick2
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To: Republicanprofessor

A 40% is evidence of no effort.

It's not possible to be burning up the effort track and do so poorly on performance.


57 posted on 11/13/2004 7:30:55 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: Republicanprofessor

"The students 'have to get an A in effort to guarantee that if they fail the subject matter, they can get the minimum passing grade,' Swinton said. 'I don’t think that’s a bad thing.' "

Is this like "Fake but accurate"?

"Incompetent but passing"?


58 posted on 11/13/2004 7:32:36 AM PST by sitetest
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To: billorites
”It is something new, but it is designed to help give students that extra push, to give them the necessary tools to be successful later in life,”

There actually *are* programs very similiar to this one presently available with near identical objectives; to prepare students for their academic future and equip them with the tools they need to be successful.

Most people know them collectively as K-12.
59 posted on 11/13/2004 7:35:17 AM PST by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Liberalism: The haunting fear that someone somewhere might be able to do something for themselves.)
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To: Republicanprofessor
Perhaps this school needs to lose its accreditation. If the student can't show that they are learning and eventually mastering the material, then they have failed as a student. What's so difficult about that?

I look forward to the day when employers make extensive use of entrance exams to ensure that students possess the knowledge that their degree says that they should.

60 posted on 11/13/2004 7:36:22 AM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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