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College Republicans' tactics raise questions
Star Tribune ^ | November 12, 2004 | Greg Gordon

Posted on 11/12/2004 7:24:21 AM PST by wallcrawlr

WASHINGTON, D.C.--Carmen Bakken, 88, of Cambridge, Minn., proved her party loyalty this year when she got a stream of fundraising letters from the National College Republicans.

She sent 91 checks totaling $42,985.

Told of the extent of her donations, she said, "Oh, my goodness! I don't think I gave so much. I don't remember the name College Republicans. I thought what I gave to was a national Republican company."

Similar accounts from other senior citizens in Minnesota and nationwide have put Eric Hoplin, the St. Olaf College graduate who chairs the College Republican National Committee, on the defensive about its record $8 million fundraising this year.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


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1 posted on 11/12/2004 7:24:21 AM PST by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr
"I thought it was a national Republican company" - clearly she may not be all there.

But they raised funds for Republicans, she thought she was donating money to the Republicans and the money went to Republicans.

What's questionable about raising money for the cause you say you are raising money for?

2 posted on 11/12/2004 7:26:44 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wallcrawlr

I remember when my Grandpa started writing checks to anyone who asked him for money. He was in his late 80s then. My Dad and my uncle took the checkbook away from him. Gramps wasn't happy at first, but his money did afford him a nice two year stay at a top care facility before he passed away.


3 posted on 11/12/2004 7:27:24 AM PST by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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To: wallcrawlr

I read the article and I'm not sure what the problem is here. The CRNC sent out letters, truthfully identified their organization, and people sent money back. Anything wrong with that?


4 posted on 11/12/2004 7:27:53 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: wallcrawlr

Did she think she was sending money to Halliburton?

Aren't they a "republican company?"

/saracasm


5 posted on 11/12/2004 7:27:54 AM PST by rwilson99 (I am a South Park Republican)
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To: wallcrawlr
Sounds to me like someone needs to take control of that woman's finances. I certainly wouldn't blame the college republicans because she doesn't know what's going on.
6 posted on 11/12/2004 7:28:13 AM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: wallcrawlr

80% of the money they raised went to the mass-mailing outfit.

Something's just not right.


7 posted on 11/12/2004 7:29:55 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: wallcrawlr

Fundraising letters frequently ask everyone for more money than they have/can afford? It's not the College GOP's fault that people are giving.


8 posted on 11/12/2004 7:31:44 AM PST by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
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To: wallcrawlr

These aren't questionable tactics, they are standard tactics. As anyone who has ever donated knows, once you send in a contribution, you are on a list and get many more solicitations. I gave $50 to Bush-Cheney and got requests from Senatorial, Congressional, Legal and local committees.


9 posted on 11/12/2004 7:33:05 AM PST by Savage Rider
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To: Savage Rider

For some weird reason I cannot fathom, my name and address has got on the mailing list of Amnesty International, Democratic National Committee, Planned Abortionhood and dozens more liberal, leftist organizations.

My standard technique is to send back their prepaid envelope with a little message: YOU SUCK!


10 posted on 11/12/2004 7:36:47 AM PST by Alouette (When the wicked perish, there is jubilation! Proverbs 11:10)
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To: wideawake

I remember my mom in her late 70's. She went to the bank and changed her account number. Then she forgot and tried to cash a check with her old account. She didn't have the money. Heck! She blamed everybody in the family saying we had robbed her. It took forever to convince her she had done it herself.


11 posted on 11/12/2004 7:40:04 AM PST by shiva
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To: wallcrawlr

Well, gosh and golly gee. Based on this horrible information we should have a 'do-over' of the national election for no good reason at all.

We'll hear more of this crap like about how a Reep dropped a toothpick out a car window and due to that assault on the environment Kerry should have won the election.

Utter nonsense so typical of the left.


12 posted on 11/12/2004 7:49:21 AM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM, they can hate us all they want.)
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To: headsonpikes

I was looking at that also.

It would appear that they spent 6 million to clear 2. Is it the norm that 75% of the money raised goes to the mass marketing firm? Are these numbers even accurate?

I don't think the College Republicans are guilty of deceptive practices, only guilty of a really bad business model.


13 posted on 11/12/2004 7:50:06 AM PST by dmz
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
This is an interesting article...thats worthy of self-examination (by repub's).
Its all rhetorical questions.
14 posted on 11/12/2004 7:58:31 AM PST by wallcrawlr
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To: dmz

That is normal for mass mailing fundraising.


15 posted on 11/12/2004 8:15:03 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

another reminder that I'm in the wrong line of work.


16 posted on 11/12/2004 8:19:12 AM PST by dmz
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To: wallcrawlr
I have only two problems with this article.

The first is the claim that 80% of the donations went to the firm handling the solicitations. If these people are giving their money to a cause, more than 20% of their giving should benefit the cause. If the College Republicans really allowed themselves into such a bad deal, the people who made that deal should be fired.

The second is that the reporters didn't look for examples of similar problems with Democrats. I'm certain that if they looked around, they'd find Democratic lobbying groups that sent a similar number of solicitations to old people and received similar donations. It's sad when old people lose their judgement, and someone should be managing their finances when they reach this state. However, the problem is not a Republican problem.

Otherwise, the article admitted that many of the people received what they wanted for their donations. They wanted to give to see Republican victories on election day, and that's exactly what happened.

Bill

17 posted on 11/12/2004 11:34:33 AM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Alouette

I sent back some democrap stuff and told them to keep there CRAP


18 posted on 11/12/2004 1:58:32 PM PST by ruhbarb
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To: wallcrawlr
I thought what I gave to was a national Republican company

The College Republican National Committee is a national Republican 'company.'

19 posted on 11/12/2004 2:00:14 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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