Posted on 11/12/2004 6:42:59 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
The real Democratic Party was lost back in the 60's somewhere. They just do not have enought sense to go back and look for it.
When the McGovern wing of the party ascended (descended?) to power in 1972, the end was just beginning....super-factionalization began.....
Dem Shady???
They say they are mourning the age of "Enlightenment" according to the NYT. Yea..we all mourned the end of it on Sept 11th. Someone must have forgotten to tell the Islamic extremists about enlightenment and the Dems need to face the reality that in order to get enlightenment back we have to educate a few folks. The Enlightenment came after the French got their butts kicked. Funny how history seems to repeat itself. It's all about moral issues ..oh and freedom from EU rule..get a clue Dims.
Something makes no sense to me. The "Progressives" were so far left, they scared some of their own people to the right. Not they want to get them back by moving farther to the left? Good luck! I see a filibuster proof Senate in 2006.
I will be done with my parole by then and I will gleefully cast my vote for "Right" team.
Clinton (her) is no match for Clinton (him). She's just as dishonest, just as cynical, just as addicted to power. She's more to the left. But most importantly, she lacks his talent in selling snake oil to the rubes. Because she can't market the goods (whatever they are), she can only lead the Democrats to another, well-earned defeat.
To borrow a phrase, "Bring it on."
Congressman Billybob
I find it strange that these public office-holding democrats
absolutely FLEE from the words 'socialist' or 'liberal', while their bases, the average democrats on the street are
PROUD to be 'liberals' or even 'socialists'. It's a badge of honor to them. How can a party have success when in order to be elected, you have to HIDE the truth of what you are?
Also, they resort to hype to try to get the 'youth' vote.
What do all those kids at the Springsteen rallys or watching MTV's 'Rock the vote' know about issues? Nothing.
They follow because the Boss is 'cool' and MTV is 'cool'. It's the cool thing to do. You can't hold a party together on hype. There MUST be substance. Issues that can hold up for years and decades.
The real Democratic Party was lost back in the 60's somewhere. They just do not have enought sense to go back and look for it.
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Yes, I have always held the opinion that JFK was the last of the REAL DEMOCRATS. During that period, the party was swinging so far to the left, and very rapidly, that what was left of any sensibility and American values vanished. Just look at what they are today, and planning to run a hard Marxist like Billary in 2008...but you can bet she and her ilk (Billy Boy et al) will be working very hard to CONVINCE THE IGNORANT DEM MASSES that she is really a true American, with American values, and NOT A RADICAL SOCIALIST. We sure as hell know better than that Hillary...
She will lose easily anyway, since she is in no way qualified to be Commander-in-Chief of this nation...just another hard-left mouthpiece of the far-left...
I'm hoping this is the beginning of the end for the Roosevelt socialsts. The damage they have done is enormous. Individual rights and initiatives have been replaced by judicial dictates to promote the "common good," a putrid marxist dictum.
The state and federal bureaucracies are filled with socialists, illegally writing policy and laws. It will take years to weed these marxists out. Congress and state legislators should do their job and rein in these left wingers.
"the average democrats on the street are PROUD to be 'liberals' or even 'socialists'. It's a badge of honor to them. How can a party have success when in order to be elected, you have to HIDE the truth of what you are?"
Hillary has already started changing spots. By 2008, she will be farther to the right than I am. In words only!
They just don't get it. This electorate DOES NOT support the populist, socialist agenda. The problems are seen as failures of the individual NOT failures of institutions. Each individual must take responsibility for him/herself and stop blaming the system, the economy, the government their bad childhoods, their genetic propensities (alcoholics). Does this mean values, yes, does it mean walking the straight and narrow pathway, yes, does this mean looking at oneself in the mirror and dealing straight with that person, yes, does it mean coming clean about your wrongheaded life choices to your God, yes, and charity begins at home, yeah, that too No wonder the paper said today that red states give more to charity. You wanna know what millionaire John Kerry gave last year to charity? One hundred dollars. Just ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS. Pathetic. Disgusting. If people believe that the reason they have problems is because the big Uncle Sugar didn't solve them, they learn helplessness, laziness, irresponsiblity. But a country full of individual people who are responsible and accountable to and for themselves is a mighty country.
Interestingly, Hitlery may not have that problem. She can possibly get the nomination without running as a socialist.
Yes, I was even mad at Ford for pardoning Nixon. Then I saw Jimmy Peanuts' incompetence and pessimism, compared it with Ronnie's optimism and love of America -- and became a conservative.
The Liberals keep bashing the Red states. They better look at the county by county map, several of the Blue states are mostly RED. California is almost all RED except for a small strip down the coast from LA to San Francisco. They keep trashing the Red state voters and soon the whole country will be Red except for a few isolated idiots like themselves.
Pray for W and Our Troops
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