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Victor Davis Hanson: The Ironies Ahead, What George W. Bush faces
NRO ^ | 11/12/2004 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 11/12/2004 5:54:15 AM PST by Tolik

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1 posted on 11/12/2004 5:54:15 AM PST by Tolik
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To: seamole; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out

2 posted on 11/12/2004 5:54:57 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik

"e have over ten million illegal aliens here in this scary age without borders, when we have also lost confidence in assimilation and legality. In response? Mexico demands more emigration, eager to damn the United States as "nativist," if not "racist," in hopes it can earn even more billions of dollars in worker remittances and export ever more millions of future economic and political dissidents from its heartland. The problem is not that we cannot stop the influx, but rather that we can't even discuss it — given our own race industry and an intrusive, hostile Mexican government."

Thats disturbing. 10 million! Immigration reform should be to stop them from infiltrating not reward them or welcome them. What am I missing here?
Contact your senators.


3 posted on 11/12/2004 6:06:05 AM PST by stopem
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To: stopem
Ok, stopem, you stop them!
4 posted on 11/12/2004 6:24:21 AM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: stopem
10 million! Immigration reform should be to stop them from infiltrating not reward them or welcome them. What am I missing here?

What you are missing is the fact that our noble and heroic president, this brave figure whom a just historical eye will regard as being saint-like in his isolated rectitude, is also flawed: he, like many Wall Street Republicans, does not see this unlimited immigration as a bad thing. His policies open the floodgates even further, and he has been buddying with Vicente Fox, a supreme cynic. I guess we cannot have perfection in a president!

5 posted on 11/12/2004 6:40:17 AM PST by Capriole
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To: RAY

Wish it were possible for someone to stopem!


6 posted on 11/12/2004 6:51:11 AM PST by stopem
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To: Capriole

We need to stop any amnesty plans.

You can fax for FREE your Congress people, Bush and others from this site with canned letters you can modify. They are making a difference. They will email you when any legislation is coming down the pike and people swing into action and slam Congress. It is working. Get others to sign up and use it. I will be donating to them plus Tom Tancredo's PAC to control immigration. The RNC will not be getting any more money.

http://www.numbersusa.com/index


7 posted on 11/12/2004 7:10:37 AM PST by FrankRepublican (Arlen Specter = Ted Kennedy Democrat Bush = Open Borders w/ Mexico)
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"We have over ten million illegal aliens here in this scary age without borders, when we have also lost confidence in assimilation and legality............ The problem is not that we cannot stop the influx, but rather that we can't even discuss it —"

Indeed.


8 posted on 11/12/2004 8:50:02 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: AuntB

"The problem is not that we cannot stop the influx, but rather that we can't even discuss it —"

And the 58,000 + Names on the Viet Nam Wall STLL demand justice.

BUT 99 US Senators cover for Hanoi Kerry


9 posted on 11/12/2004 8:57:20 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry calls Viet Nam Vets "war criminals" MSM and 99 US Senators agree What's our sentence?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Yes, they do, Tonk. I think they got a bit of that justice during this last election. I hope so.


10 posted on 11/12/2004 9:23:17 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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Last September, Asa Hutchinson, said deporting illegal aliens en masse is "not realistic" and that Americans lack the political will to uproot them. The current estimate of illegals in the United States is between 12 and 15 million.


Mr. President,
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than saluting the flag makes you a patriot. Patriotism is making sure your country is worth defending.

Leaving our borders open to this criminal invasion is not what your Oath of Office requires. Protect and Serve! You are destroying America!

You are the reason why the estimate of illegals in the United States is between 12 and 15 million or more. Our hospitals are going bankrupt, their children are the reason for the increase in gang crime and violence against American citizens.

I am glad that John Kerry didn't win, but I am expecting you to do your job to the best of your ability. Either support our laws or resign and allow someone who will to take your chair.

Sincerely,
A Vet


11 posted on 11/12/2004 9:29:37 AM PST by B4Ranch (A lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: AuntB

"I think they got a bit of that justice during this last election. I hope so."

They won't rest till Hanoi Kerry is exposed once and for all.

And I have taken a vow to honor their request.


12 posted on 11/12/2004 9:31:23 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry calls Viet Nam Vets "war criminals" MSM and 99 US Senators agree What's our sentence?)
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To: B4Ranch; AuntB; Tolik; stopem; Capriole; janetgreen; Joe Hadenuf; Happy2BMe; glock rocks; ...
I recall GOP talking heads several times during pre-Nov 2nd interviews (of the few that I caught discussing this subject) mention certain catch words regarding the migrant invasion and how it is impacting our nation and our economy:

"UNDERGROUND ECONOMY"

Anybody else catch that?

13 posted on 11/12/2004 9:38:57 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: AuntB

Indeed! :)


14 posted on 11/12/2004 9:46:52 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Oh yes I did. The UNDERGROUND ECONOMY will not get close to paying the taxes we need to support these criminals nor is it a lawful operation.

Who is going to support the laws that our legislators make for a safe America when our President just winks at illegal acts???

I hope one of these illegal aliens steal his daughters identity, and really screws up her life. Just the same as what happens to citizens across America everyday. Maybe that will get it close enough to his heart and brain that an UNDERGROUND ECONOMY is not what we want.


15 posted on 11/12/2004 9:56:52 AM PST by B4Ranch (A lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: Tolik
God help him, because few others will.

I suspect G-d will.

Shalom.

16 posted on 11/12/2004 10:02:57 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: B4Ranch
UNDERGROUND ECONOMY is not what we want

An underground economy will make us no different than any other failed third world country. None of the elites think they can be touched by it, and they don't care that the rest of us will. It makes me sick that an American President would envision this as America's future. History will not be kind to GWB.

17 posted on 11/12/2004 10:24:02 AM PST by janetgreen (California says: ILLEGAL ALIENS, GO HOME)
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To: Tolik
DITTO

Regards and Thanks

alfa6 ;>}

18 posted on 11/12/2004 10:27:33 AM PST by alfa6 (Meeting: an event where minutes are kept and hours are lost.)
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To: Tolik

This guy touches all the bases......


19 posted on 11/12/2004 11:35:19 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: AuntB
At its richest, most populous stage in its history

I think VDH is growing something other than sorghum at the ranch. And smoking it too.

How is a country that is perhaps upwards of 50 trillion in debt (includes the Soc Sec, Medicare future obligations) "at its richest"?

And why is "most populous" some sort of badge of honor? Is China an example of a great country because they have 1.3 billion desperately poor people, and 0.2 billion who do a little better?

Hanson's metrics for judging the health of a "nation" are bizarre.

20 posted on 11/12/2004 12:02:48 PM PST by Regulator
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