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N.Y. GOP Seeks 2006 Senate Candidate
NY Sun ^ | 11/10/04 | WILLIAM F. HAMMOND JR.

Posted on 11/10/2004 6:07:32 PM PST by wagglebee

ALBANY - New York Republicans don't have a lot of time to bounce back from their drubbing at the polls last week: The race against Senator Clinton is just two years away.

Defeating the former first lady, or at least tarnishing her image, will be a priority for Republicans nationwide in 2006, given Mrs. Clinton's status as the Democrats' early front-runner for president in 2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Announcements; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2006; clinton; clintonistas; electionussenate; gop; guiliani; hitlery; nysenate2006; pataki; x24
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To: wagglebee

I'm ready to take a "listening tour" of the state.


141 posted on 11/11/2004 8:32:13 AM PST by jimfree (Single payer creates a single point of failure.)
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To: dangus; oceanview

"He could win Suffolk County??? "



I don't know how many absentee votes are uncounted, but if it's several thousand then Bush could indeed carry Suffolk County. According to Dave Leip's Almanac of U.S. Presidential Elections (the best source of its kind on the web), Kerry leads in Suffolk by just 1,665 votes, or 0.27%:

John Kerry 303,375 48.99%
George W. Bush 301,710 48.72%

Go to http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/index.html

(You need to click on Election Information, then 2004, then on New York, then on Suffolk County.)


142 posted on 11/11/2004 8:33:21 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Norman Bates
Yes, she is running. I think she has sent out fund-raising letters telling people that she expects a tough campaign. Rudy should run as he would probably do good in New York City itself and I think that would give him a good chance at winning. I doubt if Rudy could win the presidency. Sean would be too polarizing and would never carry the state. We need Sean on the radio and tv anyway.
143 posted on 11/11/2004 8:34:20 AM PST by johar67
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To: correctthought
Why don't they decide in a smokey back room on an uninspiring candidate and run him/her.

Good thinking. Perhaps Howard Mills has a brother.

144 posted on 11/11/2004 8:35:31 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Scenic Sounds
He'd be a good choice, but he's not a New Yorker - he lives in Illinois.

All the better. He's an experienced carpet-bagger, not an amateur.

145 posted on 11/11/2004 8:38:04 AM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: oceanview
Pataki is also my choice

Pataki is the logical choice. He'll lose if he runs for Guv again against Spitzer and Bush doesn't want him in Washington.

146 posted on 11/11/2004 8:39:36 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: diabolicNYC
I'll volunteer, here are my qualifications: Age: 25 Ideology: More conservative in my left pinky than the entire NY "GOP"

While an understanding of the Constitution is not required, it is helpful. You have to be 30 to be a senator.

147 posted on 11/11/2004 8:40:22 AM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: AuH2ORepublican
If we're going to nominate a Met, it should be Mike Piazza; at least we know that he's a Republican.

Who is the most famous and popular sports figure from New York? That would be a good consideration....look at JC Watts, Ahnold, the Minnesota wrestler, Steve largent, etc..

Popular sports all stars could win.

148 posted on 11/11/2004 8:42:36 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Tabi Katz
Pataki has no base to energize the way Hillary does.

His base would be the anti-Hitlery people.

149 posted on 11/11/2004 8:45:01 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Yes, thanks... I did catch that from a later post. That's actually great news, because that really represents strong inroads. If the Republicans could increase their porportional share by that much again, they'd be able to win in '08. Do it twice more, and they'd be unstoppable!

Yes, the growth was probably due to 9/11, but the point is that there are now people to spread the conservative/moderate message in these regions. Believe me, many of these people are largely unaware that there are arguments besides the liberal ones. If they can hear a second point of view, many may change their minds.

Even simply repeating that growth once, even arithmatically, even over a few elections, could drastically alter the ground game in New York.


150 posted on 11/11/2004 8:49:06 AM PST by dangus
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To: 1Old Pro
To be realistic, if there is a seperate candidate on the conservative line, I'll vote them.

It's a sorry state when I have to consider governor gun control as a candidate.

Perhaps this is all moot as my wife and I are looking to move to a state where someone who shares our views has a shot at being elected.

151 posted on 11/11/2004 8:50:09 AM PST by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: correctthought
To be realistic, if there is a seperate candidate on the conservative line, I'll vote them.

It's possible as the Conservative party is endorsing and running their own candidates lately. But it splits the GOP vote.

152 posted on 11/11/2004 8:51:36 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Shady
Pataki's henchmen say that he needs to run and win in the Senate race to have a chance at the Presidential nod in '08. Look, Geo. E. Pataki has been, for the last two terms, a horrible Governor. He is a worse Republican. He IS NO Republican. There isn't a Republican in this godforsaken heck hole of a State!!! When Michael Bloomberg and Joe Bruno can call themselves "Republicans" after the fiasco of 20 late budgets and grossly inflated State budgets along with Geo. E. Pataki is beyond comparison. Hillary will be reelected by 70-75 percent of the vote and will be nominated for President in '08 by the Demoncrats. I just pray that a great Republican from SOMEWHERE ELSE gets the nod so she will lose!

Pataki is a Rockefeller Republican. He, along with Sheldon Silver and Joe Bruno have caused incredible damage to this state. New York's Medicaid benefits and their costs to counties may eventually force counties to just close down all services, including substantial portions of police and fire services.

In Erie County, ALL of the property tax for the county needs to be used to pay for the county's portion of their Medicaid costs. Pataki allowed the generous New York program to be implemented. His late attempt in 2003 to veto parts of the approved NYS budget was like putting one's finger in a dike about to burst.

He's also pro-choice, and can't give a straight answer in regards to gay marriage. I'll not vote for him for Senator, or President.

153 posted on 11/11/2004 8:53:02 AM PST by Fury
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To: DeFault User

Giving an endorsement for a person running for office is vastly different than being the person who will be president for the next four years.

By your thinking, anyone who makes an endorsement for a candidate that wins would be a good candidate for president.


154 posted on 11/11/2004 8:53:46 AM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: wagglebee

Rudy should do it. He'll never be president and it's time for him to step up.


155 posted on 11/11/2004 8:54:43 AM PST by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: wagglebee
One thing is for sure. The hapless NY GOP can't do any worse than the last one.

On the other hand, maybe they can. They have a great record of running worthless candidates.

156 posted on 11/11/2004 9:27:22 AM PST by Gritty ("Americans tote guns because they're assertive citizens, not docile subjects"-Mark Steyn)
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To: DM1

Also, I think both Giuliani and Pataki are smart enough to realize that they're going to have a lot of trouble getting the Republican nomination for president in 2008 and their best bet is to run statewide office in 2006.


157 posted on 11/11/2004 9:44:16 AM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I would rather see Rudy run for governor because there's a chance that Pataki (the only other electable Republican) could lose if he runs for a fourth term against a formidable opponent like Schumer. It's more important for the state to have a Republican governor than a Republican senator and Giuliani would win handily while Pataki would have a better chance of beating Hillary than Schumer.


158 posted on 11/11/2004 9:56:10 AM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: Vision

Putting Rudy against Hillary, is like sending a poodle to do a pitbull's job.


159 posted on 11/11/2004 10:02:38 AM PST by embedded_rebel
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To: wagglebee

Hannity would be great, but he won't run for office.

Giuliani could beat her, but he's very liberal socially (probably would draw a Conservative Party candidate in oposition) and may be in the Administration and therefore unavailable. Or he may be more interested in running for Governor.

Pataki might be able to beat her, although it's questionable, but he's no conservative either.

Pete King? One of the 5 Republicans to vote against Klintoon's impeachment? Don't think so.

Here are a couple of names that came into my head:

Jeanine Pirro, Westchester County DA. Tough prosecutor and one of the Scott Peterson analysts on Fox News. Pretty conservative, but likely moderate enough for New York.

Phil McConkey, former New York Giant. Conservative. Thought about running against Pataki, but backed off at the last minute.

Either could be a pretty good candidate, certainly better than Howard Mills.

How about Joe Holland? A black running against Hitlery might bring out the full measure of her vitriol and destroy her chances for 2008 even if she wins.


160 posted on 11/11/2004 11:02:56 AM PST by TBP
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