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What Canon Law Taught Me About Teen Dating
Catholic Legate ^ | Nov.29.02 | Pete Vere, JCL

Posted on 11/10/2004 3:52:01 PM PST by iheartusa

There is a growing debate within Catholic circles surrounding the merits of courtship as opposed to dating. As the youngest canon lawyer in North America, I am less than a decade removed from my teenage years, and I also served as a canonical adviser to various adolescent-orientated Catholic apostolates. Therefore, I keep in touch with what-is current among today's youth. Yet I am also experienced with marriage tribunal ministry, where I regularly encounter broken marriages.

My experiences with canon law and teenagers have taught me a thing or two about what constitutes unhealthy teenage dating behavior, as well as what type of courtship leads to healthy marriages. Allow me to share this advice with teenagers and parents whose teenagers are of courting age.

Do Not Date Don't date. This will seem like rather strange advice, given the fact this reflection is about teenage dating. When one talks about boyfriends or girlfriends in our current age, however, too often the emphasis is on the "boy" or "girl" rather than the "friend." I often witness relationships fail because the couple is romantically involved before they get the chance to know one another. What do I suggest to teenagers as a substitute for dating? Be friends with members of the opposite gender, hang out, but do not call these social outings dates or think of these as such. Rather, think of these outings as an opportunity to deepen your friendships. Sooner or later, you will find yourself hanging out more and more with one particular friend, and this is much more likely to lead to a healthy marriage.

A Single Warning Suffices While teenage boys are a little different, most adolescent girls I know do not set out in a relationship to lose their virginity. Rather, it happens in a moment of weakness, usually alone somewhere as the couple carouse, after the girl has incrementally yielded to a series of moral compromises. Therefore, I suggest teenagers give the object of their courtship one warning that they intend to save sexual intimacy until marriage. If the suitor then puts pressure on you to compromise in this regard, ditch him or her immediately. Again, this is both my tribunal experience and my pastoral experience with teenagers: If your suitor does not respect your Catholic morality even after you have warned him, either you will eventually give in or the relationship will eventually fail. More often than not, the result is both.

Adult Supervision Stay near adults. In other words, go to movies, go out for dinner or coffee, but do so in well-populated areas where there are always adults nearby. You do not have to drag your mom along, but keep to public places. If your potential suitor wishes to talk privately, discussion can take place in a restaurant booth. If your potential suitor wants to go somewhere quiet with you, find a nice concert hall or museum.

You can talk privately and spend quiet time together in these places, because the people around you will not notice when you do exactly that -spend quiet time together and talk privately. The same people, however, will notice if this is not what you are doing. This is why you are infinitely less likely to morally compromise yourself when adults are nearby.

Zero Tolerance For Violence One punch is one too many. If your potential suitor hits or physically abuses you once, it will happen again. In all my experiences dealing with marriage tribunals and youth apostolates, I have never seen physical abuse end with one incident, unless the victim ended the relationship after that one incident. So if you get punched, either get rid of the person immediately or prepare yourself for future abuse. Your potential suitor will say the violence was accidental because he was angry, and he may apologize, profess his love, and promise you it will never happen again.

He probably means it and intends to follow through. If he hits you once, however, he is not in control of his temper. Until he gets help and brings his temper under control, he is in no condition to court. Therefore, out of Christian charity you should forgive him; however, out of this same love you need to dump him and carefully tell him the truth: Until he gets counseling for his violent temper, he is not ready to court.

Just Say No Learn to say no. This applies to any situation in which you believe your potential suitor is leading you to compromise your Catholic faith and morals. Again, most teenagers do not go out looking for compromising situations; rather these situations arise because adolescence is an awkward time when young people are trying to fit in, which leads to a certain group mentality taking over. Be an individual, and learn to say no in awkward situations.

No Pornography If your potential suitor is into pornography, either he ditches it or you ditch him. This may seem like a harmless activity, but from my tribunal experience I have come to realize just how unhealthy are the expectations pornography creates in marriage. It severely undermines the marriage covenant because one spouse looks upon the other as an object of pleasure, rather than as a spouse.

Quite often, the addicted spouse gets bored with the other after a year or two, and as a result pressures the other spouse into doing the same things witnessed in those filthy magazines.

If you read Pope John Paul II's Familiaris Consortio, you will learn that in marriage the couple give themselves over to the other totally. This means physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and psychologically. Spiritually, however, pornography can, and often will, prevent a sacramental marriage from being entered into. In short, pornography creates mental, emotional, spiritual, and psychological barriers that prevent one spouse from totally giving himself over to the other. Pornography fragments the focus of one's sexual desire, and thus one no longer focuses exclusively on one's spouse.

Jesus Loves You "Jesus loves you": This is the most gentle way I could think of to introduce the subject of "fat and ugly" comments. Nevertheless, this is something I witnessed all the time as a teenager, as well as something I regularly come across in tribunal ministry. Many teenagers are pressured to compromise their moral virtue because their date tells them they are fat, ugly, goofy, or some other derogatory comment that plays off adolescent insecurity. Girls are particularly vulnerable to this tactic, especially when they come from one of the following backgrounds: abusive; few prior courting opportunities; previous difficult or unhealthy dating relationships; extreme insecurity about their looks which leads them to wonder whether any guy will find them attractive.

Often, such an adolescent becomes desperate to latch on to the first potential suitor who gives him or her the slightest attention. Using the example of a teenage girl, the boyfriend will assure her he loves her, while asserting that nobody else will date her because she is overweight, unattractive, socially inept, or some other reason. If she does not wish to lose him, he states, she must prove her love for him by engaging in premarital sexual relations. Granted, adolescence can be cruel to those whom Hollywood deems less than cosmetically perfect, but this, usually passes by one's senior year, when many an ugly duckling becomes a beautiful swan. Furthermore, God loves you, as does that special person whom God has chosen for you to marry, provided He has not called you to a higher vocation of the priesthood of the religious life. Who does not love you is the potential suitor pressuring you to compromise yourself before marriage. So beyond the usual moral and religious issues, pause for a second and ask yourself why you would give yourself to a person who thinks you are an unattractive loser and who lies abut loving you.

Go Dutch This is the most controversial piece of advice I give teenagers looking to court. Granted, it goes against our established custom in North America, but it is also a piece of advice I received from a youth minister whose pastoral experience with inner-city youth ministry corroborates my experience on the tribunal. Thus, given our present cultural expectations, a little adjustment to the custom of courtship is warranted. To explain, guys were originally expected to pay the girl's way because this offered an opportunity for the girl to judge the guy as a potential provider for the family. This was before our culture degenerated to the point where instant gratification may be purchased. In short, quite often when a guy pays a girl's way, he unconsciously expects something by way of sexual gratification: in return. Therefore, girls, pay your own way. If you do this, a guy is less likely to expect something in return. This also makes you more assertive, and thus more resistant, should a situation arise in which you are pressured to compromise your Catholic faith and morals.

On the other hand, in keeping with the spirit of the former custom, do not pay a guy's way. If he never has money, either because he has not earned it or because he cannot resist spending it, then he probably not be a good provider in marriage

Concluding Remarks None of this advice is totally infallible. As long as human beings possess, free will, and as long as our fallen natures tempt us to sin, like everyone else, teenagers are free to choose between good and evil. Nevertheless, when you are courting a potential spouse, these points will help you make the right decision by protecting you from situations in which it becomes easier to make the wrong decisions


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I’m not a Catholic, but I couldn’t agree more with this guy’s thesis. Even though this article is old, since there's been such a passionate response about abortion, etc., I thought it was important to visit this issue and get some feedback.
1 posted on 11/10/2004 3:52:01 PM PST by iheartusa
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To: iheartusa
Be friends with members of the opposite gender, hang out, but do not call these social outings dates or think of these as such. Rather, think of these outings as an opportunity to deepen your friendships.

Riiiiiiiight.... Good luck on holding a conversation with a teenage girl. I could hardly do it when I was a teenager, so that suggestion is doomed from the start.

I could never imagine trying to form a 'friendship' with a teenage girl they are utterly vapid....

2 posted on 11/10/2004 3:56:58 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

I could never imagine trying to form a 'friendship' with a teenage girl they are utterly vapid....

Wow...bitter much?


3 posted on 11/10/2004 4:00:41 PM PST by iheartusa (Searching the Internet far and wide to bring you thought-provoking controversy)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Girls that are serious about their religion aren't quite so airy.

What in the world is up with that screenname?


4 posted on 11/10/2004 4:14:37 PM PST by johnb838 ("May they go to hell!" the soldiers shouted, and Allawi replied: "To hell they will go.")
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To: All

Loved the article.


5 posted on 11/10/2004 4:21:57 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: iheartusa

Thanks for this, it is indeed a great article especially considering that I have a 13 year daughter


6 posted on 11/10/2004 4:23:29 PM PST by mel
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To: iheartusa
Interesting article- Lots of good advice for the dating scene, and an insightful look at dating behaviors.
7 posted on 11/10/2004 4:41:39 PM PST by Pajamajan (It's morning again in America!)
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To: iheartusa

"Cannon Lawyer"

Is that like "Domestic Engineer"?


8 posted on 11/10/2004 4:43:34 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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--I agree and would back it up with a vaccination (yet to be developed) that renders males impotent at puberty, to be countered by an antidote available after they have a steady job, a car paid for and funds available for a down payment on a house---


9 posted on 11/10/2004 4:43:44 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: iheartusa
Rather, think of these outings as an opportunity to deepen your friendships. Sooner or later, you will find yourself hanging out more and more with one particular friend, and this is much more likely to lead to a healthy marriage.

My fiance and I have known each other since we were children, have been friends for nine years (starting in early high school), and this is precisely what happened about 4.5 years ago. We're very glad that we were friends long before we decided to date. There's an amazing comfort level and degree of knowledge about the other that we had even before we began dating.

I am so glad to have avoided the traditional "dating" scene for the most part, and I feel very fortunate to be marrying my best friend. :-)

This is outstanding advice for teenagers.
10 posted on 11/10/2004 4:44:12 PM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: iheartusa
among other things, it is this type of common sense that drew me to the church.

law and catholicism: two of my favorite studies.

11 posted on 11/10/2004 4:44:22 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: iheartusa

Yeah, Bit him a lot, too. :^]


12 posted on 11/10/2004 5:00:04 PM PST by spinestein (T gli e un r c n truc i n. exp t del ys.)
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To: iheartusa

Thanks for this post. I have a boy on the verge of puberty and several nieces in the latter stages (eeek!!). There is some great advice in here!

oh, and welcome to FreeRepublic!


13 posted on 11/10/2004 5:12:18 PM PST by proudmilitarymrs (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Born to Conserve
LOL! The author is actually one of my former classmates.

As far as canon law is concerned, it is the Catholic Church's internal legal system. For more information about canon law, and how it interacts with the lay Catholic in the pew, check out the following interview with the same author:

Decoding Canon Law for Lay Catholics -- an interview with Pete Vere

Hope you're pro-life because Vere takes a pretty tough stand against pro-abortion Catholic politicians.

Additionally, if you're interested in finding out more about canon law, Vere and another classmate of ours, Michael Trueman, just published a book that answers the 150 questions about canon law most asked by lay Catholics. The title of the book is Surprised by Canon Law: 150 Questions Laypeople Ask About Canon Law.
14 posted on 11/10/2004 5:49:02 PM PST by GratianGasparri
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To: iheartusa

The nuns used to tell us not to date someone we wouldn't marry. At the time, I thought that was really silly - afterall, wasn't the purpose of dating to find out about people, to see if they were marriage material?

Now, many years later, I realize they were right. I was a young widow and saved myself much additional grief by not dating men who weren't guys I wouldn't want to be married to. If you know your values, you already know what type of person you want to attract. You don't need to date to find that out.

So many women bring unhappiness and even violence into their homes, which could often be avoided if they were just willing to be by themselves for awhile instead of having to be with any man, even if he's a creep.

When I talk to younger women, who seem to be rotating thru unsuitable guys and not understanding why they were getting their hearts broken, I ask them to just ease up on the dating for the sake of going out. When they are ready to start dating again, only go for guys that share their values.

The other behavior I see with young women, is depression over sexual encounters w/mulitple partners over time; that is, they date for a couple of months, have sex w/the guy, then move on to the next boy friend. They think each boy friend is going to be 'it' and have sex, and when he isn't, they move on to have sex w/the next guy, hoping he'll be it. Doesn't anyone just go out for dinner anymore?


15 posted on 11/10/2004 5:52:11 PM PST by radiohead (Will work for post-campaign tagline.)
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To: radiohead

Some people are afraid to be alone.


16 posted on 11/10/2004 5:53:16 PM PST by cyborg
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To: radiohead

The other behavior I see with young women, is depression over sexual encounters w/mulitple partners over time; that is, they date for a couple of months, have sex w/the guy, then move on to the next boy friend. They think each boy friend is going to be 'it' and have sex, and when he isn't, they move on to have sex w/the next guy, hoping he'll be it. Doesn't anyone just go out for dinner anymore?

That's just it. "Dating" has become a euphemism for cycling through a series of sexual encounters. Look at how it's portrayed on tv. I'll use Frasier as an example. Every chick he went out with there was casual sex involved. That's not dating. That's a game of musical beds. As I understand it, in days of old dating was not just spending time alone at dinner, but spending time with one's intended and their family. This way you really got to see how the person was, how they would respond to your family, how they liked him/her, and from there you would decide to marry.


17 posted on 11/10/2004 6:40:20 PM PST by iheartusa (Searching the Internet far and wide to bring you thought-provoking controversy)
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What Canon Law Taught Me About Teen Dating

The sad thing is I learned all about teen dating from watching 'Canon films!' Now THERE was a movie production outfit! Golan & Globus live!!!!

18 posted on 11/10/2004 6:42:06 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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Thanks for this, it is indeed a great article especially considering that I have a 13 year daughter

I'm glad you find it interesting. I have nieces and cousins about your daughter's age. They are not allowed to date.


19 posted on 11/10/2004 6:42:32 PM PST by iheartusa (Searching the Internet far and wide to bring you thought-provoking controversy)
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This is last-century advice; an example of conservatives always fighting the last war, not the present one.

Teenagers and young people more often than not don't date anymore. If they *did* date, that wouldn't be so bad. But they don't. The old model of boy asks girl out, picks her up, takes her someplace, ideally pays, and brings her home is in many circles (especially more affluent suburbs) as dead as poodle skirts.

What many young people do nowadays is "hook up." They go out or to parties in groups. They're all "just friends with benefits," and have casual, no-commitment sex with their "friends."

I've seen the attempts at courtship in homeschool circles, and what it translates into in practicality is the idea that girls should essentially stay at home, live at home, be completely sheltered at home until some guy negotiates with dad to marry them. It's completely unrealistic because it doesn't take into account how to teach girls to survive college, living on their own, dealing with the business environment with parties, people cruising for sex in the office, etc.

20 posted on 11/10/2004 8:18:00 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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