These are my Grandfather (WWI), Dad, and two uncles (WWII)Dr. John Llewellyn
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llewelly@wfu.edu
I know at least one former Navy Seal that would refute this idiot.
Also, I got spit one day at SJSU when I was going through ROTC there. I was wearing my uniform and some wanna-be 19yr-old hippie had 60's flash-back. He missed. In fact, most of it dribbled down his chin. This was in 1986.
I am so angry right now I could ring this guy's neck. I called and left a message for him. I encourage others to do the same even if you didn't serve in Nam or didn't serve at all. This is a crapload of leftist propaganda aimed at rewriting history and discrediting those who dare to speak the truth.
My uncle served 3 tours in 'Nam.
They did a psych eval on him when he wanted to stay for the third. He just couldn't come home while others were still in harms way. He didn't want to be 'that guy' as he tells the story.
As a young man, around the age of 16, I was seriously considering my options for the future. I was speaking with my mother and grandfather (A WWII vet, God rest his soul) about military service. Grandpa, a sage man if one ever existed, made sure I understood it was not all pretty uniforms, and fast planes.
'Luckily, things are different now. See, when your Uncle Bud came home, he was expecting a celebration - instead he got tomatoes, eggs, angry words, and ugly signs.'
I looked to my mother - she was crying at the memory - she was there that day - on the walk down tarmac at San Francisco International airport - to meet her brother - to welcome him home. She is the one who offered my uncle her handkerchief to clean the seeds from his Service Dress jacket.
This is no urban legend. It is simply what happened on a foggy day in San Francisco. It was shameful then, and to deny the suffering that those men endured - the mental shock wave that rolled through them when they realized there was no band, no bunting, no parade - the anguish they felt as they carefully cleaned their faces and their uniforms - that denial my friends is just as shameful, perhaps even worse.
To those who cut the trail before me - you have my heartfelt thanks.
To those who walk the path this day - you have my prayers.
Mr. Llewelly,
It has come to my attetion that you exposed a myth about VietNam Vets getting spat at and on by hippies and other memebers of the Left.
As a member of the college crowd I would just like to offer a thanks for exposing my uncle's tears as a farce he made up to impress my young mind.
I would also like to congratulate you on your ability to come to a conclusion based on a lack of testamony from said Vets or even those opposed to them in the 70's (when the "myth" began).
You have got to show the rest of the world how you do it.
And by "do it" I mean "not get any of that filth tangled in your beard."
Yours TRUTHFULLY,
R. Macleod
What a jerk and POS! He doesn't know what he's talking about since he wasn't there, or was he a Bubba out there protesting and draft dodging or yet a skerry out there committing treason against his country and the people he served with? And the people he polled for comment must have been cut from same cloth he's made from. What a crock! He's trying to put a good face on something that was terrible, if not trying to debunk something awful that occurred.
Yeah...just a myth...
...seeing my father come home from Vietnam at the Albuquerque, NM airport...as he came to us to hug us for the first time in a year...that guy that stepped out, yelled "baby killer" and spit in his face, in front of his 3 year old son (me)...just a myth.
Thank goodness, I thought it was real.
My father in law, back from a US Navy deployment, who, under new orders NOT to wear uniforms while off base, was spit at, yelled at, cars tried to run him over....all just a myth as well.
Thank goodness, HE thought that was real, too.
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"Our first step forward is to recognize that we are not a society that disrespects the sacrifices of our servicemembers. We should ignore anyone who tries to tell us otherwise. Whatever our aspirations for America, those hopes must begin with a clear awareness of who we are not."
Translation: Our first step forward is to ignore all those veterans who were spit upon and treated like sh*t for serving their country. Their experiences are irrelevant to the bigger "truth."
Maybe this asswipe is an urban legend...this guy should be old enough to know the insults our guys went thru by those damn pukes! Nam vets...I wasn't old enough to go, but when I was 16, I knocked the shit out of one of those hippies in your honor with a shovel during a protest in my home town.
STUPID SOB is all I can spout at the moment
I enlisted in 1968. Got back in '71 and returned to Madison, WI. I could make a list of the crap I had to put up with. This guy is full of shit.
IMHO...sounds like, this guy is kissing sKERRY's @$$ and/or laying the groundwork to dismiss any facts of disrespect the liberals showed the vets, during and after the war.
Hey Guys ... for what it's worth
WELCOME HOME !
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No it isn't, my brother would not lie to me.
one man's urban myth is another man's reality.
Hey doc, if you are going to rewrites history you'd better wait till all of us Vietnam Vets are dead it's easier that way. Nobody to take down your lies. You elitist POS.
It happened, and it hurt, but I got over it, and thanks to real Americans, like the FReepers and the good people, I finally got my "parade" and a "thank you". That's all we ever wanted (you can even forget the parade, the 'Thank You' was enough).
Doc all the lying, and rewriting and propaganda can't change what happened to us. You and your hero John F'n sKerry won't change it, but it sure bit you in the a$$ this time, didn't it. You people can't handle the truth so you lie and try to change it. Well, who's laughing now, and who's sorry now.
By the way doc, I was a college professor. I'll tell you this, I have a better time at the "Dew Drop Inn" than I ever had at a faculty mixer, and so did all of my fellow professors that followed me there after the faculty mixer. Rednecks are braver, more honest, and better people than you a$$holes, because they are real people that can do real things. A good friend that wanted my talent, put me on the dare a long time ago. He said, "those who can, do, those who can't, teach". The more I thought about that, the more I wanted to DO and I've been "doing" for a long time. The only thing my career as a professor is good for is a paragraph on my CV, and many laughs (you people are so disconnected from the real world, and rednecks aren't, it is their only world). I was always proud of my west Texas accent, even when I was a professor in the Yankee state of Indiana. My grammar was more correct than most of the lefty profs. And I'll always be proud to be a redneck.
I've rambled enough. If you believe the good doc, that's fine, if you believe a Vet, that's fine, but I'll be damned if the leftists will change history. I know you FReepers don't believe this horses%^t but I do worry that these lies will pass to the American people. I want the whole story told!
These are my Grandfather (WWI), Dad, and two uncles (WWII)