Posted on 11/10/2004 3:14:44 PM PST by Barbarian6
And so do all the neighbors. ;-D
In the suburbs, I'm picturing the Moms in their Suburbans driving straight through the front door...
Well said.
Let's ask the good folks at Columbine what the plans were.
I'm pretty sure that was either (a) Beauty and the Beast or (b)Frankenstein.
(wink)
That is why the Second Amendment refers to a well-regulated militia. We don't have undisciplined mobs for the most part. There might be a few accidents, but there is quite a bit of training and discipline among the citizens.
How did the POLICE deal with it?
Thanks, that's valid, and into my model it goes.
In this kind of situation (no drunken celebrating mob), the more information the citizens have, the better the outcome will be. If the emergency managers and first responders keep too tight of control on information (as incident command system seems designed to do), that's the kind of thing that will cause mob behavior. In the NY blackout in the 60's (?) when there was no widespread means of sharing information, there was rioting. In the big northeast blackout a year or so ago, there was none. Why? Because those in the midst of it got enough information through cell-phones, battery powered radios, etc to know what was going on and there was no need to panic.
I have been thinking about this a good deal recently. Last week there was a news report of a white van with Ohio license plates taking video pictures of two schools in Jefferson City, MO. (Happens to be the capital of a Bush state.) The truth is that I'm not sure how a community would hold up to terrorist demands when their children and grandchildren are at stake. I know in my head how I would act; it's my heart I worry about.
There would be no way the islamofascist terrorists inside would make it out of there alive. In fact, the citizens would so outnumber the police, and in their anger, were the terrorists to be apprehended by police, they would be seized forceably on the spot from the police, and probably lynched right there, citizens firing round after round into their hanging bodies. That is what would happen in Red State, Fly Over America.
Until teachers are allowed to carry concealed absolutely nothing can prevent a Beslan from happening here.
Reacting after the fact, once the terrorists have installed themselves in a school, is do we kill them now, and watch kids die, or let them kill some kids before we storm them.
Teachers, properly trained, and armed at the time of the school invasion is the only hope for a situation like this to be stopped before it really starts.
Of course you're right, but most K-5 teachers would refuse to even touch a firearm, much less be trained and keep one handy in the classroom.
The only alternative to that is multiple armed security guards patrolling during school hours.
Try getting that funded prior to some hideous massacre occuring here.
Making it out alive won't be their concern.
There's a federal law against possession of firearms in schools. What armed Americans?
Once the terrorists gain control, the kids are as good as dead. Therefore each one saved is a victory. Every law enforcement agency in the US needs a contingency plan for just that scenario.
Preemptive action is the only acceptable alternative. Track down and imprison or deport all non-citizen Muslims and close the borders, NOW!
So it appears to me that if any ordinary citizen does show up with a loaded rifle at a school seized by terrorists, he will be committing a federal felony. That law certainly won't stop terrorists intent on a second Beslan, but it would mean that any armed citizen would, as I read it, ironically face arrest themselves.
If any freepers with more knowledge about the legal situation have any input, it might be interesting to hear more about this.
Thank you for your interest in my part of the discussion here. I'm not going to put any more information on the internet, but your concerns have been addressed in my county.
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