Posted on 11/10/2004 12:51:19 PM PST by VU4G10
(Washington, DC—November 10, 2004) It wasn't quite "Read my lips," but in the last presidential debate in Arizona, George W. Bush clearly stated that he would not support amnesty for illegal aliens. One week after being narrowly returned to office, the president has reneged on that pledge. Bush has dispatched Secretary of State Colin Powell to Mexico City to open discussions with the Mexican government about the size and scope of amnesty for illegal immigrants and for a massive new guest worker program.
"President Bush and Karl Rove have seemingly missed the message of their own, and the Republican Party's, success at the polls last week," said Dan Stein, president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). "In spite of a poor record on jobs, further erosion of the middle class, and staggering budget deficits, the people returned the GOP to office because they believed that the Republican Party was more in tune with them on values and respect for the law. One of those gut issues that led voters to ignore the administration's poor record in other areas was the belief that Bush and the Republicans would enforce laws against illegal immigration, not reward illegal immigrants and auction off every job in America to the lowest bidder."
The immigration plan being dusted off in Washington and Mexico City is essentially the same one the administration introduced last January, which proved to be so wildly unpopular among voters that they were forced to shelve it. "Who is the president seeking to reward by reintroducing his amnesty/guest worker proposal?" asked Stein. "Not middle class workers who made it very clear that they are feeling squeezed. Not the millions of families who have lost their health insurance benefits because their employers no longer feel that it is necessary to offer such benefits to attract American workers. Not Hispanic voters, whom polls indicate do not consider this to be high priority and who voted in significant numbers in favor of an Arizona ballot measure that bars illegal aliens from receiving most public benefits.
"The only interest group, besides the estimated 10 to 12 million illegal aliens and their families who could be in line for legal U.S. residency, are cheap labor employers who have come to believe that it is their right to have workers who will work at whatever wages they wish to pay," Stein said.
The latest White House announcement will touch off yet another surge in illegal immigration and further compromise homeland security, predicted FAIR. Last January, when the president first proposed this plan, the U.S. Border Patrol reported a marked increase in the number of people attempting to enter the U.S. illegally in order to benefit from the proposed amnesty. "Aside from betraying the interests of millions of people who voted for him because they believed the president shared their core values, this irresponsible renewal of talk of amnesty will betray those who voted for him because they believed the Republicans were the party that could be entrusted to protect homeland security. You cannot have homeland security and chaos at the border. You cannot have homeland security while granting amnesty to millions of people with only minimal background checks. And you certainly cannot have amnesty and unlimited guest workers, and preserve a solid middle class," asserted Stein.
It cost about $7,500 per head to school a kid in California. Care to guess the average number of kids in an illegal's family, then multiply by that number. Explain how they could possibly pay enough property taxes to make it a break even deal.
Then you'd be breaking the law, but go right ahead.
The problem with that is this...
According to the White House fact sheet on the proposal, the temporary worker program is intended "to match willing foreign workers with willing U.S. employers when no Americans can be found to fill the jobs."
Illegal aliens are already matched with employers because they are working illegally. That gives them "an advantage over those who have followed the rules."
Jorge; No, your recollection is wrong.
itsahoot; No he isn't wrong George.
Prove it then. Show me the posts.
It no surprise that the same posters who falsely accuse Bush of being for blanket amnesty will also accuse any of the rest of us as well.
I hope your right. I doubt the MSM will be enthusiastic about it but they're not the only game in town anymore.
Amnesty means if you're here in the USA and you can prove you've been here for some period of time .. you can be given US citizenship.
That is not in anyway related to the Bush plan.
The worker plan, as I understand it, requires the employer to contract with specific migrant workers for a specific job for a specific period of time.
We spent an entire evening arguing the point, Jorge. Have you AIDS Dementia?
Nope. I am, however, not feeble minded - like you.
Excellent way of putting it.
We will soon have a low-skill labor force that is subsidized by the income taxpayer. So much for wages being part of "supply and demand".
Where will this end?
"That was the case with Wal-Mart."
Unfortunately you are incorrect. The employer of the illegals was a subcontractor for Walmart. Walmart was guilty of not checking the I-9's of it's subcontractor's illegal employees.
Destruction of the uppity middle class.
Can't you contribute anything other than wild accusations and name-calling to this discussion?
You wish you had the excellent and upstanding reputation Howlin has on FR.
That's never been the definition of amnesty in the past. For example, the Reagan amnesty didn't do that.
The worker plan, as I understand it, requires the employer to contract with specific migrant workers for a specific job for a specific period of time.
Generally, yes, that's how a guest worker program should work, but the rub is in the details. Tancredo's proposal operates on that principle for legitimate migrants without legalizing any illegal aliens. The Bush proposal legalizes illegal aliens who've been working illegally, and gives them an advantage over guest worker applicants who've followed the rules and aren't yet matched with a prospective employer.
It won't until something big happens. Until then, the only compassion they have is for illegal aliens. To hell with us tax payers.
Wal Mart is an innocent party when they've been busted before? Can you say plausible deniability?
Not quite yet. They need us to keep electing RINOs and paying taxes to make their invasion easier.
The last time I heard of this program, it consisted of them filling out the paperwork, having to prove they have a job. If they have a job, they would be made to pay taxes, then leave when the job is over.
If it is still that, it doesn't seem an amnesty at all, and I would expect the Mexican government would be disappointed with that kind of result.
Has another plan come to surface? If so, what would be the difference?
Thanks.
Oh, so now that you can't prove "hypocritical" you've moved on to "feeble minded."
BTW, just so you'll know, that's ONE WORD.
Such is your opinion.BTW, how are is the drug cocktail working?
Such is your opinion.BTW, how are is the drug cocktail working?
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