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1 posted on 11/10/2004 12:48:54 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
My letter to my pastor:

What makes a good Christian when it comes to choosing a ruler or can government do the work of God?

What I have read and understood from the Bible is that God and Jesus wants us to help each other by using our own time, treasure and talent and to give from our hearts. Nowhere have I found anything along the lines of “Go out and institute huge bureaucracies that will take money from some people at the point of a sword and give that money to other people as a politician sees fit.”

Our Founding Fathers were Christian and very pious men. They founded this country under strong Judeo-Christian tenets and reflected on their religious beliefs on all their decisions. They wrote nothing into the Constitution of any type of government “aid” to help the poor, children or anyone else on purpose. They wanted a very limited government for good reason. Limited government is the best way to ensure that freedom will be preserved. The Scottish philosopher Alexander Tytler, who lived during the time of the American Revolution and writing of the US Constitution, summed these views:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure.

From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years.

These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."

There are many interesting questions if citizens rely on government to do “God’s Work.”

If a government takes a portion of a man’s wages and does good with it, has the man also done good? If a government takes away a portion of a woman’s property and does evil with it, has the woman also done evil? When a rich man pays more in taxes than a poor person, is he more Godly? If the government then does evil, is he more to blame? A woman works for the government and uses other people’s tax money and does “God Work” with it, is this government woman now a good/Godly woman? If I legally try to avoid paying taxes, does that not make me an “Ungodly” man?

Today, the US government takes nearly 50% of a middle-class person’s paycheck after all taxes are factored in (income taxes, Social Security, sales tax, real estate taxes, gas tax, death taxes, phone taxes, highway tolls, sad etc.). Uncle Sam will spend more money in just this year (2004) than it spent combined between 1787 and 1900 - even after adjusting for inflation. I cringe at those numbers. The Founding Fathers wanted nothing like the tax-consuming monster that we have as a government today. I also think of all the good work that could have be done if people were allowed to keep more of their own money and give it to organizations/people that they believe in their heart are doing God’s work. Maybe it comes down to trust. Will people do the right thing with their own money or must a government take a huge chunk of it to do the “right things?”

Except government rarely does anything right except for those tasks that were explicitly outline in the Constitution as the Founding Father intended. I could cite many examples (such as where would you rather put $10,000 in retirement money - in Social Security or in your own 401k plan?) but the plight of black America illustrates this failure beyond comparison.

In 1965, the US government was going to wipe out poverty by the “Great Society” programs, in which to date over 3.5 trillion dollars has been spent. These federal programs were designed to “help families and children” or “buy votes” depending on your political viewpoint.

At the beginning of the 1960’s, the black out of wedlock birth rate was 22%. In the late 1975 it reached 49% and shot up to 65% in 1989. In some of the largest urban centers of the nation the rate of illegitimacy among blacks today exceeds 80% and averages 69% nationwide. As late as the 1970’s there was still a social stigma attached to a woman who was pregnant outside marriage. Now, government programs have substituted for the father and for black moral leadership. The black family and culture has collapsed (and white families are not that far behind).

Illegitimacy leads directly to poverty, crime and social problems. Out of wedlock children are four times more likely to be poor. They are much more likely to live in high crime areas with no hope of escape. In turn, they are forced to attend dangerous and poor-performing government schools, which directly leads to another generation of poverty.

Traditional black areas of Harlem, Englewood and West Philadelphia in the 1950s were safe working class neighborhoods (even though “poor” by material measures). Women were unafraid to walk at night and children played unmolested in the streets and parks. Today, these are some of the worst crime plagued areas of our nation. Work that was once dignified is now shunned. Welfare does not require recipients to do anything in exchange for their benefits. Many rules actually discourage work or provide benefits that reduce the incentive to find work.

The black abortion rate today is nearly 40%. Pregnancies among black women are twice as likely to end in abortion as pregnancies among white and Hispanic women.

The “Great Society” programs all had good intentions. Unfortunately, their real world result are that they have replaced the traditional/Christian models of family/work with that of what a government bureaucrat thinks it should be.

I could make an excellent argument that if the US government had hired former grand wizards of the KKK to run the “Great Society” programs, and if they had worked every day from 1965 to today without rest, they could have hardly have done better in destroying black America than the “Works of God” that the government has done or is trying to do.

I have visited many countries in which the government “guarantees” that everyone has a job, a place to live, education, health care and cradle to grave “government help” for all children and families. It all sounds great except that the people in these countries are/were miserable. They wanted to escape but were forced by their governments, at the end of a gun, to stay. The “worker’s paradises” of socialist and communist counties are chilling reminders of letting governments do “God’s Work.”

The Bible clearly states that we are to help those in need. The question is “Who should help those in need?” I firmly believe that scripture and the historical evidence strongly support that individuals, private organizations and churches should be the ones doing the heavy lifting. Government help should be the last resort.

Very Sincerely,

2banana
2 posted on 11/10/2004 12:52:23 PM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: CHARLITE

There is a passage in Acts where it says that the early Christians shared their wealth according to their need.


3 posted on 11/10/2004 12:52:48 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: CHARLITE

If Jesus was a Commie - how come Commies hate him so much - that is if they believe in him?


5 posted on 11/10/2004 12:56:33 PM PST by xcullen (DC Conservative)
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To: CHARLITE
Well, let's see. Christ fed the multitudes but didn't call for government food entitlements. He healed the sick but He didn't call for national health care. He stated "...the poor will always be with us..." which seems to indicate that He didn't envision a future of communist wealth redistribution.

Nope. No commie indicators here. (But I'm probably reading the wrong version - you know, the one that's all patriarchal and misogynist and non-inclusive.)
6 posted on 11/10/2004 12:57:40 PM PST by Gingersnap
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To: CHARLITE

Jesus was a commie? If so, then why did his mother appear in Fatima warning us of the ills of communism/Russia?


7 posted on 11/10/2004 1:00:22 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: CHARLITE
Now I’m no preacher, but I have read the good book a time or two, and I don’t recall free national health care being mentioned in the Bible anywhere. Personally, I’m for a free Rolls Royce in every driveway, but I couldn’t find that in the Bible anywhere either.

I can't find it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights either...

9 posted on 11/10/2004 1:03:32 PM PST by Doomonyou (Molon Labe! FMCDH!)
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To: CHARLITE

Acually he was ultra-liberal; He said anyone could come to the Father.(the destination)
And He was Ultra-conservative; He said that anyone who wants to come to the Father must go through Him.(the ticket)
Jesus is the only means of salvation, and he didn't run away from evil - he confronted it.
He was no wimp.


10 posted on 11/10/2004 1:04:20 PM PST by Dudesdad
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To: CHARLITE
The socialism of the left is just another way of defunding the right and the church and conservatives by taking their money that they would have directed a certain way and they are instead sending it to people and places that the church or God would have never intended. We then have much less money to do the work and things that He intended for us to do. Education is just one example. We pay twice -- while they laugh, and not only laugh at us but at our God. We are allowing them to mock our Lord on OUR dime.
11 posted on 11/10/2004 1:07:27 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: CHARLITE
Late '60s bumper sticker/banner which I placed inside my window -

"Kill A Commie For Christ!"

19 posted on 11/10/2004 1:17:46 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: CHARLITE
Jesus was a conservative. The truth shall set you free. (Communism is not 'freedom'.)
26 posted on 11/10/2004 1:40:06 PM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: CHARLITE
When you die and get to the pearly gates to find your name isn't there, a tax receipt isn't going to carry any weight. You cannot be a Christian vicariously through your government.
33 posted on 11/10/2004 10:29:31 PM PST by bad company (Four more years.)
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