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Terrorists at The Border? (An NBC4 Special Report - Los Angeles)
NBC 4 Television, Los Angeles | Nov. 8, 2004

Posted on 11/10/2004 11:03:02 AM PST by StoneColdGOP

DOUGLAS, Ariz. -- It's no secret that people sneak into the United States from Mexico every day. But what has been kept under wraps is exactly who is coming in. NBC4's Chuck Henry went deep in the Arizona desert to find out.

It's a place that used to go by the name "Cocaine Alley" because of all the drugs that were smuggled through. But now some officials are more concerned about human smuggling, specifically illegal entry at the border by individuals who are not actually from Mexico. They're called "Special Interest Aliens," because they're coming from countries believed to be a threat.

"People are coming here with bad intentions. I know of 10 that have been detained at my station alone," said a Border Patrol agent whose identity has been withheld at his request. He said this is something that agents have been told not to talk about.

"We know for a fact that people coming from the Middle East are now coming into Mexico and spending a year, even two years in Mexico, to learn how to speak Spanish," the Border Patrol agent told NBC4.

"The key is to pass yourself off as a Mexican," said retired Army Colonel Ben Anderson. He has been following what he calls the terrorist trail and connecting the dots on his website. He said it's a journey that begins on the other side of the world.

"You come out of Cairo International and you go either to England or Madrid. From there, you either go to Paraguay or Brazil. There is a huge infrastructure there waiting for you to learn how to speak Spanish. You're then going to transition your way up through Latin America ... into Mexico," Anderson said.

There's no way to tell exactly how many people are coming through the border at places where you can see gaping holes in what little fence there is. There's no way to tell how many people, where they're going, and for that matter, what they're bringing with them.

NBC4's Chuck Henry asked Anderson, "Why do you think a person would want to come here from that part of the world?" Anderson replied, "They don't want to come here to work at 7-Eleven."

Outside border towns it's often nothing more than parallel dirt roads -- One in Mexico and one in the US, separated by a small fence. It's been driven across, walked across, cut, trampled on and often it doesn't exist at all, leaving it easy for anyone to make a run for it.

"There are gaps of 50 to 60 miles that I know of that are completely wide open, " the Border Patrol agent told NBC4.

"Any American that thinks we have security on our southern border is mistaken, " said California Congressman Dana Rohrabacher.

Not even members of Congress know exactly how many special interest persons have entered or have been detained at the border. Congressman Rohrabacher told NBC4, "They're going to try and make it here in the safest possible path."

It's a path Rohrabacher is trying to uncover. He and other members of Congress sent a letter to Homeland Security demanding answers to the most basic questions. "How many people have been stopped at our southern border who would be hostile and coming from hostile countries," Rohrabacher told NBC4. When Henry asked him if he had any idea of the answer, the Congressman replied, "it could be in the hundreds, it could be in the thousands."

"I think it would be incredibly naive, to the point of stupidity, to not believe we have terrorists coming through here," said Larry Vance, who lives on the border near Douglas, Ariz. He showed NBC4 a Middle Eastern prayer rug, found in the back yard of his house.

"They're coming through my back yard, but they're settling in your backyard," Vance told NBC4.

A warning that from Arizona, it's easy to get to cities like Los Angeles.

"They are not going to bother us at all. We are a transit area," Anderson tells NBC4.

And the residents of this border town say the door remains wide open.

"It's very easy for them to enter the country. When you go to bed tonight, our border is definitely not secure. I can tell you that for a fact," says the Border Patrol agent.

NBC4 called the Border Patrol and the Department of Homeland Security asking them to speak on camera about the issues surrounding "Special Interest Aliens." They declined.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; alqaeda; amnesty; border; bordersecurity; bushamecha; dhs; fox; georgielovesvicente; homelandsecurity; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; jihadinamerica; otm; terrorists; wot
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To: Zrob

Thank you for this!


41 posted on 11/10/2004 4:16:29 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (She calls me *Mini-Merc*)
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To: Bella_Bru
It's sad that on Conservative website, threads such as this fall into the shadows and threads with titles such as, "OMGCHENEYANDBUSHARESOHOTOMG!!!!!" get tons of posts.

LOL... Ain't it the truth.

42 posted on 11/10/2004 4:17:29 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (She calls me *Mini-Merc*)
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To: mjtobias
Just as you stated, they're illegal, as in criminal. BTW, how many illegal aliens are you and people you know are currently employing

Well, since I'm active duty Navy teaching navigation to midshipmen, I'd have to say ZERO.

My point is this: The torrent of illegal immigrants might be slightly diminished if there were not so many businesses willing to hire illegals.
43 posted on 11/10/2004 5:40:56 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Just like the terrorist they just apprehended coming in from Mexico -- but only thanks to his roommate giving them the warning -- and on his way to meet with a fellow terrorst named Khalid at the El Paso airport --- scary after this guy said he wished he was flying the airplanes on 9-11. What better place than the border to set this kind of deal up?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/09/terrorism.student/index.html

The source told the FBI that Walker, who was then in Mexico, had set up a meeting with "Khalid" at the El Paso airport.


44 posted on 11/10/2004 5:59:25 PM PST by FITZ
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To: StoneColdGOP

Do you believe President Bush should listen to Mexican President Fox's request for an even less restrictive border aimed at facilitating trade and migration?

Yes



  8%

231 votes

No



  92%

2809 votes

Total: 3040 votes


www.cnn.com/lou


45 posted on 11/10/2004 6:13:27 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

We are then in agreement.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.


46 posted on 11/10/2004 9:01:22 PM PST by mjtobias
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
I fully agree that we have too many employed even though the employers know (or suspect) they are illegal, however, a set of papers including green cards are easy to buy. The cost of the coyote,(from $2,000 to $10,000) plus the cost of staying in a "safe drop house" until their mule is ready to relay them on, plus papers, plus food gives me to wonder just who are these poor people who just want "a better life for their families".

For any who don't know, a coyote is a person who brings the illegals across. A mule guides, transports, aids, and abets these criminals. All are breaking our immigration laws.

IMHO they need to be dealt with like criminals - both the mule, the coyote and their cargo, which is what the coyotes think of them as - human cargo. So should the employer who hires them. We have laws in AZ that are suppose to do this. Obviously they aren't inforced.

Also, I wonder just why they are so poor as to come here to work in the fields and kitchens. Doesn't Mexico have a productive oil field? Aren't the leaders of their country quite wealthy? They don't seem to be trying to improve the living conditions themselves, unless they are by giving aid to the poor that become our illegals!
47 posted on 11/11/2004 8:43:57 AM PST by momf
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To: Zrob; StoneColdGOP

I took my wife to Big Bend National Park last month. It is amazing how easy to cross the border. There's just no way to stop illegal crossings at present. We drove our Jeep inland from the paved roads and saw a lot of opportunity for mischief. Great Park though!


48 posted on 11/11/2004 10:13:55 AM PST by MarshallDillon (<<<Clickhere to help STOP Texas Highway Robbery via toll booth)
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To: MarshallDillon

Sad, it probably won't be a great park for long as it is being used as an illegal alien toilet and highway.

That's why even environmentalist groups (the honest ones) are starting to get worried about unchecked illegal alien legions pouring over the border.


49 posted on 11/11/2004 11:34:59 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (She calls me *Mini-Merc*)
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To: StoneColdGOP; F15Eagle

*******
MISSING CROP DUSTER
By Michelle Malkin   ·   November 09, 2004 08:09 AM

TSA wants to know: Have you seen a stray Piper PA 25 Pawnee crop-dusting aircraft? It was stolen last week in Mexico.

"Although there is currently no indication that this has any connection to terrorist activity," the TSA said, "the theft is cause for concern. Past information indicates that members of al-Qa'ida may have planned -- or may still be planning -- to disperse biological or chemical agents from cropdusting aircraft."

(Photo of the aircraft is included in this PDF file.)

TSA doesn't mention it, but fugitive Saudi pilot and suspected al Qaeda operative Adnan Shukrijumah remains the subject of an FBI manhunt along the U.S.-Mexico border and was reportedly tracked to Sonora, Mexico in August. Shukrijumah has been linked by federal authorities to Zacarias Moussaoui (who researched crop dusters), Jose Padilla and al Qaeda's alleged dirty bomb plot. More here.

Could be something. Could be nothing. Like those missing propane cylinders. And that still-missing gas tanker stolen in Jersey.
http://www.michellemalkin.com/


50 posted on 11/11/2004 11:53:07 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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